Except they are constantly been given extra funding specifically to cover areas like this.If you ran a business would you supply ten customers at great cost or a thousand and make a profit?
BT isn't a nationalised company and need to satisfy shareholders along with paying employees and tackling a large pension deficit.
I believe the service guarantee only specifies speech not data, if that has changed I expect the data would only be at low speed.
Same in towns and cities, tightly packed terrace houses offer a far better return than an expansive estate of mini mansions.
That's privatisation for you, same goes for transport too, no profit in an empty train or bus
It depends if you think modern communications are now an almost indispensable service like electricity and water or some kind of sideshow.
I have a 1000GB of download allowed per month, so I get by without too much trouble.I live on netflix so A & A are no good at all for me.
I have a 1000GB of download allowed per month, so I get by without too much trouble.
Zen here. They’re not cheap but very good. Knowledgable UK based staff if there’s a problem and zero throttling.
My don downloads the entire internet once a day and we have a constant 76mbps down and 19 up.
Oh. I only saw 200GB Option. How much is that 1000GB one? I’d switch to them if zen aren’t any good over the long term. I’d need to check on how much I burn through though. I’ve never really kept track.
Rural area just get ever more left behind but they are good at making empty promises and massaging statistics to make it sound like progress is being made.
It's the same story as mobile phone cover which is still non-existent in many North Yorkshire villages - but because you can get a signal over the moor tops where no-one lives they make out it's 90% coverage or whatever is this week's target.
In reality nothing new has been installed for 20 years locally.
It's so annoying to see new investments going into 4G and 5G, and 200mb superfast when we can't send a text and have 2mb "Broadband" speeds if the wind is in the wrong direction.
Things outside of the providers control that can affect your broadband speeds? Distance from the exchange, poor external wiring (BT made the mistake of using aluminium cabling when copper prices hit a record high a couple of decades ago. Terrible stuff), bad cabling inside the house (don't plug your router into a long extension cable from the main BT socket), and poor or congested wireless signal inside the house. Sometimes just upgrading the router from the usually crappy unit that most ISPs supply makes a noticeable upgrade.
The EO problems are still an issue in Scotland. There were a couple of places I fancied moving to but it said the entire area had EO cabling an no estimate on when they'd get proper broadband.
One crumb of comfort is broadband over copper in these areas should be of a decent and reliable nature due to the short distance from the exchange,
In general bigger cables are also used which should mean larger conductor diameter and usually no Alu.
Typically I would say around 10-15 mbps which is more than adequate for most services
We probably bumped into each other at some of the industry sessions on those products!I worked for nigh on forty years for BT and had a fairly significant role in the provision of ADSL services and latterly FTTC and FTTP
You're right ... only one of those will (potentially) get you locked up!No light, heating or sanitation vs internet, bit of a mismatch there, so no its not remotely like an indispensable service.
Can't submit the vat return or unable to flush the toilet, can't you see how far apart those two things are?
You're right ... only one of those will (potentially) get you locked up!
Not really if you're trying to run a business you simply can't manage without reliable internet these days.No light, heating or sanitation vs internet, bit of a mismatch there, so no its not remotely like an indispensable service.
Can't submit the vat return or unable to flush the toilet, can't you see how far apart those two things are?
Not really if you're trying to run a business you simply can't manage without reliable internet these days.
It's also a complete pain when there is no mobile cover - so some days you have to hang about near home waiting for a call, and have no means to call for help if working alone and suffer some incapacitating accident.
Two friends have had exactly this happen recently, I will spare you the gory details.
It's unbelievable that we can have no service at all in well populated parts of the UK, yet a lot of remote parts of the world now have decent 3G
I don’t entirely agree with you. Depending on the situation light, heating or sanitation have other temporary solutions and I suppose if your internet connection is broken you could drive somewhere and use 4g on your phone. VAT returns might not be much of a problem but if you can’t receive bills or pay them it could be disastrous for your business and you could also suffer loss of income if working from home and so on. I do think broadband is, or is becoming, an essential service but in any case good broadband to country areas could solve other problems with housing, transport and work.No light, heating or sanitation vs internet, bit of a mismatch there, so no its not remotely like an indispensable service.
Can't submit the vat return or unable to flush the toilet, can't you see how far apart those two things are?
I don’t entirely agree with you. Depending on the situation light, heating or sanitation have other temporary solutions and I suppose if your internet connection is broken you could drive somewhere and use 4g on your phone. VAT returns might not be much of a problem but if you can’t receive bills or pay them it could be disastrous for your business and you could also suffer loss of income if working from home and so on. I do think broadband is, or is becoming, an essential service but in any case good broadband to country areas could solve other problems with housing, transport and work.
Sorry don't think we will ever agree on this matter, we did cope before mobile telephony and accidents happened then.
Broadband isn't anywhere near an essential service, would you really choose it over those already mentioned.
In my professional capacity I often dealt with people who moved into the back of beyond then complained bitterly about the internet coverage.
There was a reason they bought a barn for next to nothing for their start up and tech parks were considerably dearer.
Unacceptable urban-centric policy.
I don't consider Rosedale Farndale and Westerdale locally to be 'the back of beyond'.
These are vibrant communities with several hundred residents and a large influx of holiday makers year round.
The solution is probably put a big dome over the city centres and move everyone in there.
Let loose bears and wolves in 'the back of beyond' to clear out any stragglers
Ah well, there’s the problem since you work in the industry it explains a lotYou can pay and receive bills in other ways, royal mail delivers the length and breadth of our shores
No I totally disagree about the internet being an essential service, we obviously have very different priorities
Ah well, there’s the problem since you work in the industry it explains a lot
Perhaps in the past that was acceptable solution... but as a business these days good internet IS (effectively) essential. If your customer can’t contact you they will go elsewhere.You can pay and receive bills in other ways, royal mail delivers the length and breadth of our shores
No I totally disagree about the internet being an essential service, we obviously have very different priorities