We get it. Shoot jpgs or find another hobby.
I would question the logic of having a few grands worth of camera gear that shoots 100 images a year but yes it would be terrible value for you. Nobody owes you free editing software because you don't shoot much. Use your camera more maybe?
I used to use it a lot more, then my second child came along. I even paid for the Adobe subscription, but just can't justify it now, Capture One Express was perfect.
IIRC C1Express was the free version, not brand specific. I bought the Fuji version of C1Pro, which has now been retired, so I'm on the full version. I have C1Express on the family PC, mostly so I could test printing with something that actually has some control! I'm hoping they don't stop it working, just don't provide any updates or new licences.
I get sick to the back teeth off people presuming everyone has the same requirements.
I know there is free software available and some very reasonably priced software too. I recommended Affinity photo to you and others have recommended dark table but you’ve proceeded to tell us numerous time since, how Capture one and Adobe aren’t good value for you.
However you don't get InDesign, Illustrator, Acrobat, or the video applications. Subscription is poor value if you use page layout, pdf editing, vector drawing or video applications too. over £70 a month...
It is not £70 a month, I have had CC full suite for a few years now and never paid that much, and no, it is not a hooky copy.
Like you, I went from the Nikon version to the full version. Just hoping that they do not do the same with the perpetual license version of C1 in the coming years as they have done with C1 Express.
Well, thank you for the information. Yes, indeed, it isn’t £70, although it used to be.
I wouldn't expect any of those things on a product called the Photography Plan though.... I can't imagine there are very many hobbyists subscribing to the entire CC suite of all apps. £56.98 a month is a chunky amount but again you are getting a massive amount of software there which would have cost well into four figures to buy under a perpetual licence model.
The Photography plan is good value. In it though, you don't get their other apps. If you want them individually, it might make sense to pay a further £22 a month. It is interesting when Adobe is called an Industry standard, when pdf is probably the only standard output it has. The downside of an 'Industry Standard' is the risk of monopoly. If I employed designers, layout people etc, I'd hope that they knew what was required to make a design, edit a photograph, layout a page, in an application, rather than be constricted to CC.
When I wrote this, I didn't know they planned to cancel existing licences, as now appears to be the case. And I had forgotten one of my reasons for having C1Express on the PC. I mostly use a Mac, currently running under Ventura 13.6.2. I have a pending update to Sonoma, but I've been holding off because of rumours that printer drivers for ancient printers will not be supported. I don't print very often, but I still want to be able to do it. So the plan was to pass files across to the PC and use C1Express to print them. When I was testing various printing problems earlier in the year, I couldn't fund a free photo tool with decent print controls until I tried C1Express, which worked really well.
... can indefinitely... at the moment! Think I might re-read that licence!
No. Not in the slightest.
My objection to subscription is not the price, but what happens when I stop paying or they stop providing it (e.g. go bust). This latest trick from Phase One is very worrying because it implies that the "perpetual" software will simply expire.
It does seem an odd decision. Fine stop supporting it, but to just disable it as well.
This is what is worrying me as I currently have the perpetual license version which I last updated in earlier this year.
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Very true. I only connect when I need too. And yes, they do keep reminding you that you have to go on line to verify it every now and then.
I read that, but don't recognise it, maybe I bought my C1Pro 23 early enough to miss it (October 22)? I read through the licence last night, and it seems to be unequivocally "perpetual", apart from some weird language about "termination for convenience"! I'm on 16.2.2.something, and did a check for updates, 16.2.6 is available for me. I'm slightly wary of downloading it, as (a) ISTR updating C1Pro is a right fiddle, getting the licence to work again, and (b) that might be an opportunity for a "new" licence for me to agree to! AFAIK I don't need the new version anyway, since 99% of my photos are scanned film.Here is a read up on Pro 23 which I have, still have but don't use anymore are. Affinity Photo, ON1 Raw 2023, plus DXO.
Good Bye Capture One Pro 23? - James Tan Photography
Capture One announced a new "Loyalty Program" and changes to the perpetual license. In fact, you have to pay the 6th year of subscription...
At £129 it becomes better value than lightroom after 2 years. DxO specifically doesn't require repeated activations as well so once activated that's it.
I'm sure there are all sorts of things in most licence agreements that most people wouldn't be happy with, but nobody reads them, we all just click 'Accept' and move on without actually thinking about what we're agreeing to.
I'm sure it's their convenience, not the users, and that sounds like a massive catch-all term that basically allows them to do whatever they want.
I'd recommend saving your current Workspace before updating the program. Some updates have set the workspace back to teh default for me. A right pain. Had to open the old version, save the Workspace and then make sure it was in the right folder for the new version.
Had a quick check, PL7 (current) was released ~2yrs after PL6, and the 'upgrade' was £99.
Previous software I've had I only upgraded when I changed camera as it didn't support it. This is back in the lightroom days before subscription.
You could get two years of LR subs for that if you buy on the black friday / prime day deals, and you'd get constantly updated software, PS, and all the rest of it. I don't see £129 for one bit of software that will be out of date in 2 years as good value.
What, why will it be out of date? It will last and suite me perfectly until i change camera and i need to update.
It will be out of date in terms of missing any new features added or updated in those 2 years - which may or may not be important to you, depending on what is added, and your particular needs.
Exactly. The software will do the same thing in 4 years as it does when I buy it, which is fine. I don't constantly crave the greatest and latest, I won't get upset if they add a feature I don't need in 12 months.
