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What you were doing did not bypass internal trigger,
Mike
So i take it those XTR receivers will bypass the internal trigger automatically or is their a setting on the AD600's to turn it off?
What you were doing did not bypass internal trigger,
Mike
So i take it those XTR receivers will bypass the internal trigger automatically or is their a setting on the AD600's to turn it off?
So i take it those XTR receivers will bypass the internal trigger automatically or is their a setting on the AD600's to turn it off?
Got it guys. It's the wireless button and when you press it thats when its ready to be used by the XTR-16. I will order them tonight and report back with my results once tested. Thanks again for everyones input
I thought about that... but then I think the flash would need to be TTL and firing in HSS w/ limited power control(?). I wonder if it could work with a manual/dumb flash )or TTL) and the X1T in single pin mode?Another way of doing it, if you just wanted to get it working, would be to pop a speedlight into the X1's pass-through hot-shoe (in manual, low power or bounced), then switch the AD600 to optical slave mode. Adjust X1's delay off-set.
I thought about that... but then I think the flash would need to be TTL and firing in HSS w/ limited power control(?). I wonder if it could work with a manual/dumb flash )or TTL) and the X1T in single pin mode?
The XTR16 makes the most sense in an all Godox setup. But if there is a mix of other lights in the kit ,maybe piggybacking a cheap manual transmitter/trigger like you did would make more sense.
Thanks for your help guys. I haven't got a speedlight anymore so I can't test that theory HoppyUK I have ordered 2 XTR16's though and they will be arriving tomorrow so I will report back. I take it the X1TN trigger doesn't need to be connected via a pc sync cord does it? I'm hoping it can just go on the hotshoe of the camera and just work from there. Any ideas about that? Don't know whether to order a sync cable. Thanks
Thanks a lot for this HoppyUK. Will report back tomorrow evening with my own results. Once again thanks ever so much
Yeh the uneven brightness I know about. I mainly need to shoot at the higher shutter speeds too so it might be even more of an issue. I shoot fast action so I depend upon really fast shutter speeds and having to place the flashes further away. Thats the reason every stop of light counts for me HoppyUK.
I will have a little play when the receivers arrive later and show you my results. Have you been quite successful with this method yourself?
You guys are absolutely amazing! Just tested it out and it seems like it's a little bit more than a stop of light between HS and HSS. I'm going to put the images into lightroom and compare properly but this hack or tweak is fantastic! That stop is going to help out so much!! THANKYOU!!!!
I will post up the images soon and show you
I think the twin head hack would require two X1T's piggybacked... one set to a greater delay than the other. On one hand the max brightness would be slightly lower because the output doesn't completely overlay. On the other hand you get more even coverage...I take no credit other than testing before posting something I had read elsewhere. The theory behind it is relatively simple. Yey to try @HoppyUK 's twin head hack but in theory it should light up anything very brightly. as a side note the H1200B is far more efficient than the H600B
Mike
The only reason I can see for that is because the entire image is recorded at the flash peak with less ambient being recorded.it seems with this hack you actually gain a little bit of light as you go up.
I don't understand why the first two images are so different if they were taken exactly the same...I hope these images make sense too.
I think the twin head hack would require two X1T's piggybacked... one set to a greater delay than the other. On one hand the max brightness would be slightly lower because the output doesn't completely overlay. On the other hand you get more even coverage...
The only reason I can see for that is because the entire image is recorded at the flash peak with less ambient being recorded.
I don't understand why the first two images are so different if they were taken exactly the same...
I don't understand why the first two images are so different if they were taken exactly the same...
Sorry it might just be the way i'm explaining it. The first image is taken with the hacked hypersync (HS) method and the second image is just using the built in high speed sync (HSS) of the AD600. No settings on the camera changed at all but yet there is a clear near 2 stop difference. So this proves that HS is much more efficient than HSS but we already knew that anyway
Ah, I missed the difference between HS/HSS as typed...First image using the Tail Sync hack as discussed, 2nd image using standard HSS (what did not change was camera settings)
Mike
Remember that this is a full power trick only. at lower power settings it will fail
mike
I hope these images make sense too. The 1st was shot with HS at 1/8000th f5.6. The second was shot with HSS at exactly the same settings and the 3rd image i added 2 stops of exposure to the HSS image to get it where the HS image is at. 2 STOPS more light than HSS!! Incredible! Thankyou guys!!
Guys sorry to bring this post back up but just wondering if i was to buy a PW Flex TT5 and a couple of PW X's would it give me exactly the same results as this using hypersync? Just want to change as reliability isn't perfect with the XTR 16's or the X1Tn. Thanks in advance
Without more specific clues to your problems it’s difficult to advise for sure.Guys sorry to bring this post back up but just wondering if i was to buy a PW Flex TT5 and a couple of PW X's would it give me exactly the same results as this using hypersync? Just want to change as reliability isn't perfect with the XTR 16's or the X1Tn. Thanks in advance
Just misfires really guys. I actually think now it's more of the connection between the x1tn and the hotshoe of my d700 as when I press test on the trigger it works everytime but not actually when I press the shutter on the camera. More testing required I think. Thanks guys
Hello from Australia,
Firstly, thank you for all the great information in this thread!
I have played around with my Godox kit and i wanted to post my findings and ask a question as well.
I think i have been able to do a Hypersync of sorts by doing the following:
D750 with an Xpro triggering a Godox tt600 in HSS mode - > an AD600 in slave mode at full power (being triggered by the tt600 flash. It appears that at 1/4000 (my cameras max shutter speed) I am getting more light from the AD600 in comparison to firing it in HSS mode.
My questions are:
1. I notice the above posts talk about adding a flash delay, The Xpro doesn't have that option (that I can find) so am I potentially losing some light by not having a delay or given I am not seeing banding is it not an issue?
2. If I buy a XTR16 receiver (so I can do away with firing a Speedlight to trigger the AD600) would i be able to trigger it with the xpro trigger and if so would there be an issue given there is no delay setting on the Xpro?
Thanks in advance.
Dave