-Rob- said:The first question that spings to mind is how the hell did you get your wheelchair in the rapreseed field to be able to take this shot?
My only other observation is that it's a shame that there is green behind her head. I think it would have been more pleasing to have her fully surrounded by the yellow.
Wheels said:To the 1st I think it's kinda obvious the same way the model got there "down a path" or are wheelchairs not meant to get down footpaths?
I'm sure there are slightly less arsey ways to answer my question but I guess all the vital info is there the way you said it.
Lynton said:As to how Wheels got there, i think it a valid question, as most farm footpaths etc are not overly wheelchair / scooter friendly... (in my experience)
Right here is the bloody path,
I am sick of the ****ing STUPID questions, I dont ask how you get somewhere or did something. What you lot did for me was bloody wonderful but it doesn't give you the right to get me to justify how or where I took images from. I wont be on here for a while. Really sick of having to account for things I do with the small minded few on here.
He's made a fair point! Why has he been asked about wheelchair access? It has nothing to do with the picture! People need to engage brain before mouth and consider the responses to the questions being asked! If you where interested you should have said "Oh, was it far from the path?" or "Great location, can you show us pictures of access to the field"! I would be furious if someone asked that question in this forum!
tiler65 said:If you read post #13 you will see why Rob asked the question. What is wrong with asking questions and as a wise man once said.....'There is no such thing as a stupid question, only stupid answers'
No, that's a stupid question. Rob wanted to know how a wheelchair got in a field when a pair of legs would have trouble!!!! He got there because he's a photographer who wanted to get the shot. Hell, I'm sure he would have crawled from his wheelchair and got the shot. The point is its an offensive question. Create a forum for Disabled Friendly Access and ask the question there!
tiler65 said:How is it offensive?
Edit, offensive and ignorance of a fact are two different things.
How is it offensive? Because he didn't ask for comments on his wheelchair!
It is not even you so how do you know it is offensive? You are surmising that it is.How is it offensive? Because he didn't ask for comments on his wheelchair! He asked for an opinion on his photo! And no, they are NOT two different things! This is a photo critique forum. Nothing else! Stupid questions that seem to have no meaning to the asker can be seriously offensive.
Right, can we draw a line under the wheelchair issue before it starts to get out of hand please?
As with all photos put up for critique, it's perfectly valid to ask a photographer about the location, how they got there and how they managed to achieve the shot.
Rob, in this case however, I think your question could have been phrased better. What I'm sure was meant as genuine interest and/or light hearted banter doesn't necessarily read quite that way on the forum . . . and when these things are related to something in a poster's personal life they can clearly cause offence.
Julian, Yep - I completely understand that it gets very tiresome being asked the same question again and again and I can imagine that it must wind you up feeling that you're being judged on how you managed to do something rather than the end result itself. I do think that you may be interpreting something in Rob's post that he never intended to be there though and it would be a great shame if you feel the need to stay away from the forum because of it.
Everyone else, stick to discussing the photo please (which I actually rather like, but I'd agree with the crop suggestions)
No need for any lynch mobs. Rob and Julian are both big enough to decide whether to kiss and make up or just move on from this - and they both know where the RTM triangle is if they feel it needs further attention.
Right here is the bloody path,
I am sick of the ****ing STUPID questions, I dont ask how you get somewhere or did something. What you lot did for me was bloody wonderful but it doesn't give you the right to get me to justify how or where I took images from. I wont be on here for a while. Really sick of having to account for things I do with the small minded few on here.
Mrs Cowasaki said:I actually REALLY like this picture showing the path! I love the perspective. Lose the chaps (sorry chaps) and it's an absolute corker!
Btw, I can see why Julian got upset by the question. Yes, people on the forum really came together and did a fabulous thing in providing him with some super equipment, and he has been and is very grateful. But it must feel almost as though he owes something to people on the forum, as he is often asked to justify things. People gave willingly and Julian is extremely grateful, but we shouldn't keep asking him to explain things. His continued membership on the forum, and seeing his great pictures is surely enough.
In any case, the geography/topography of two different farmers' fields can be as different as different can be, so just because one rape seed field was difficult to access, doesn't mean another one will be.
Come back please Julian!
If Julian is genuinely sick of people asking such questions then maybe it's best if he didn't come back. He's in that chair for life, it's part of him, it's part of his photography. He really needs to get used to it and not kick up a fuss any time anyone mentions it.
Nothing I've said has been offensive or derogatory towards Julian. He's just a grumpy old git!!!!
Right, can we draw a line under the wheelchair issue before it starts to get out of hand please?
As with all photos put up for critique, it's perfectly valid to ask a photographer about the location, how they got there and how they managed to achieve the shot.
Rob, in this case however, I think your question could have been phrased better. What I'm sure was meant as genuine interest and/or light hearted banter doesn't necessarily read quite that way on the forum . . . and when these things are related to something in a poster's personal life they can clearly cause offence.
Julian, Yep - I completely understand that it gets very tiresome being asked the same question again and again and I can imagine that it must wind you up feeling that you're being judged on how you managed to do something rather than the end result itself. I do think that you may be interpreting something in Rob's post that he never intended to be there though and it would be a great shame if you feel the need to stay away from the forum because of it.
Everyone else, stick to discussing the photo please (which I actually rather like, but I'd agree with the crop suggestions)
No need for any lynch mobs. Rob and Julian are both big enough to decide whether to kiss and make up or just move on from this - and they both know where the RTM triangle is if they feel it needs further attention.
Sorry Helen but that's just ridiculous. What the members bought Julian has absolutely nothing to do with the question I asked.
If Julian is genuinely sick of people asking such questions then maybe it's best if he didn't come back. He's in that chair for life, it's part of him, it's part of his photography. He really needs to get used to it and not kick up a fuss any time anyone mentions it.
Nothing I've said has been offensive or derogatory towards Julian. He's just a grumpy old git!!!!
Not arsey just sick of bloody stupid questions like how I get somewhere.
ktowers said:I can see why you ****ed him off, he was asking for critique on the image only