Future classics

Overexposed said:
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May already have missed the boat on these!
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I've only ever seen one RS1800 Mk2 Escort. It was back in the 80's in a Fast Ford Specialist called Mike Young's in Ilford Essex, mint condition and only one previous owner, Ford Motor Company. RS2000's and ES Mexico's were a lot more common, guaranteed to be seen on Essex roads back then dotted amongst the L's, GL's and Ghia's. Don't know why the RS1800 didn't sell as many.
 
rjbell said:
Lupo gti Is another good shout. Only 1000 sold ib the uk they were too expensive. around 600 left. Nice looking car too.
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Bloke I worked with was in the habit of buying a new car every year, he bought a new Lupo GTi and kept it for 6 months, most unreliable car he ever had, spent 3 months of that time in the dealers being fixed. I'd say odd looking car rather than nice, his was red so we called him Postman Pat. ;)
 
There were a lot fewer RS1800s , RS2000 were commonish, but less so mk2 Mexicos. In fact there were only 109 RS1800 Road cars built, the rest were Rally Car shells used by the factory and Rallying teams. A true classic - I was offered an even rarer factory shell RS1600 in white when I was 20 which turned out to be an ex Stig Blomquist car - I just couldn't afford to insure it the time - What that would have been worth now!!!
 
i also had a fiesta RS Turbo...what a beast it was and now very rare to see a good one.
 
Overexposed said:
A true classic - I was offered an even rarer factory shell RS1600 in white when I was 20 which turned out to be an ex Stig Blomquist car - I just couldn't afford to insure it the time - What that would have been worth now!!!
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One was sold a few years back for around £35k, with a bit of history like that, you could be looking at double or more.
Cars like 2 door Mk1 and 2 Escorts are sought after because they can be built up into classic rally cars even though they aren't the official strengthened shells. Just a normal 2 door shell can sell for £5-6k
 
ST3 said:
One was sold a few years back for around £35k, with a bit of history like that, you could be looking at double or more.
Cars like 2 door Mk1 and 2 Escorts are sought after because they can be built up into classic rally cars even though they aren't the official strengthened shells. Just a normal 2 door shell can sell for £5-6k
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I know, I had both a mk2 1600 sport and then an RS2000 custom which I sold for a couple of grand to get a Escort Xr3i then a Peugot 309Gti
 
ST3 said:
Bloke I worked with was in the habit of buying a new car every year, he bought a new Lupo GTi and kept it for 6 months, most unreliable car he ever had, spent 3 months of that time in the dealers being fixed. I'd say odd looking car rather than nice, his was red so we called him Postman Pat. ;)
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I do like funny looking little cars though. I love the little fiat 126.
 
welshwizard645 said:
Being a Saab fan - it is interesting that Stupar identified the 900/9-3 - which versions - if you mean the classic 900 then unmolested versions will rise in value, the NG(GM) 900's and OG9-3s (1993-1998/1998-2002) are treated with indifference - most will have succumbed to the dreaded gm2900 bulkhead crack or just died, the 900s would be mechanically better than the later 9-3s (2000-2002) which might succumb to the dreaded B2x5 sludging issue. Somehow I would suggest 95 or 96 models instead.
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Saab 900 Turbo Mk1
Saab 9-3 Viggen (for me the shape is timeless irrespective of structural/mecahnical gremlins)
I mean just look at that......beautiful!!!!!!
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neil_g said:
do you know how many 106 rallyes there are? those were like hens teeth to start with..
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There are 215 106 rallye's still on the road.
In comparison there are only 163 306 rallye's on the road
 
Here's another classic in my eyes and very underated too!

Peugeot 405 MI16
 
stupar said:
Here's another classic in my eyes and very underated too!

Peugeot 405 MI16
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My mate put the mi16 engine in his 205 gti [emoji106]

Any Tickford Capris still out there or what was the Lancis Thema called with the Ferrari mechanics?
 
If you like a bit of comfort in your weekend ride not bouncing around in your hot hatch a lexus ls400 might be worth a punt. Again we have the problem of imports.
 
lots of love for the French Cars on here. Very surprised with that.

The only blue 306 Rallye will be worth a bit I am sure.

I had the chance to pick it up a year or so ago. But was not in the position to get it pity as it was going for £1200 at the time I think.
 
 
 
stupar said:
Here's another classic in my eyes and very underated too!

Peugeot 405 MI16
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I had one, the 405 Mi16x4. Clutch replacement was interesting, the transfer box for the 4wd meant that the gearbox couldn't be split from the engine without removing the whole lot from the car first.

It was very nice, quick, although not massively, good grip, comfy. Also French, so fabulously unreliable in a way that even the Italian car industry would be impressed with.
 
testbloke said:
It's a fair point, although great buys not sure if these will appreciate in the next decade.
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I always think that the Americans and Arabs (maybe the Chinese) would like those kind of Bentleys. To me they seem a bit like "drawing rooms on wheels".
I think of all the links I posted, the Mazzer would be the most likely to appreciate followed by the 8 series Beemer, then the Alfa.
 
andy700 said:
Oh dear, everyone is after hot hatches. Quentin did mention Bentleys.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201511188810235?radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&quicksearch=true&sort=default&postcode=me158hb&onesearchad=used,nearlynew,new&make=bentley&page=1&logcode=p

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201601220315346?radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&quicksearch=true&sort=default&postcode=me158hb&onesearchad=used,nearlynew,new&make=bentley&page=1&logcode=p

8 Series BMW's

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201510067565886?model=8_series&postcode=me158hb&sort=default&make=bmw&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&page=1&onesearchad=used,nearlynew,new&quicksearch=true&logcode=p

Alfa?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201601170157604?sort=default&quicksearch=true&model=gtv&radius=1500&search-target=usedcars&postcode=me158hb&make=alfa_romeo&page=2&onesearchad=used,nearlynew,new&logcode=p

Maserati?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201503141705131?onesearchad=used,nearlynew,new&search-target=usedcars&quicksearch=true&page=1&sort=default&postcode=me158hb&make=maserati&radius=1500&logcode=p
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I've been considering a alfa gtv myself. Thats a lot of money for one though.
 
pompey306mark said:
lots of love for the French Cars on here. Very surprised with that.

The only blue 306 Rallye will be worth a bit I am sure.

I had the chance to pick it up a year or so ago. But was not in the position to get it pity as it was going for £1200 at the time I think.
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Some great French cars. Loved the Renault Alpine V6 Turbo, the original 5 Gordini Turbo with the wider arches and more recently surely the Megane Rxx series are going to become saught after in a few years.
 
Sadly I killed my MX5 Mk1 by getting too up close and personal to a Transit :(
I would say that the 1992 Toyota Celica GT Four Carlos Sainz edition will continue going up in value, only 440 in that designation for the UK market and distinctively different from the regular GT Four of the time too.
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strumstrum said:
eased the pain of not being able to afford/get hold of a Lancia Delta
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of all the cars i've owned, the one that I really regret selling was the Integrale...

...couldn't live with the electrical problems - was second hand, and the prior owner had "an issue" (one that involved smoke and flames from the wiring loom) that hadn't been properly put right. I never knew from one day to the next if it was going to start when I turned the key, or stop when I turned the key off, or if the dashboard would just light up like a christmas tree...

Eventually just gave up after the AA and the RAC both refused to attend any more breakdowns on it. Should really have bought something else, took it off the road, gutted it, and had one of the rally-specialist companies do a total rewire job, because it was a wonderful car when it worked, and you weren't scared to park it in the garage or too near the house in case it burst into flames again...
 
According to dvla my mk1 mx5 is still taxed and tested. Would love to get it back. Other than the dvla/police is there a legal way to get current owner information for a registration number?
 
You could try the owners club(s), they might have a register and be able to pass on messages.
 
rjbell said:
I've been considering a alfa gtv myself. Thats a lot of money for one though.
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At first glance I would say you are right, considering the year. However the mileage is low (which may be a good or bad thing) and it is very clean. It has been polybushed (suspension) and remapped. The first time I ever saw a GTV was in Genoa many moons ago, and it was dark blue metallic but with beige leather and it looked stunning.
They are lovely to drive though, because you are seated low down - in the car - and the engine note of the six is intoxicating.
 
My mate bought a new gtv back in the day, it was a lighter blue colour that was special order and limited to a few hundred cars per year. If one that colour. Comes up it could be worth a bit more
 
bigfub said:
Sadly I killed my MX5 Mk1 by getting too up close and personal to a Transit :(
I would say that the 1992 Toyota Celica GT Four Carlos Sainz edition will continue going up in value, only 440 in that designation for the UK market and distinctively different from the regular GT Four of the time too.
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Sadly most have been broke and the parts distributed off to lesser models. The stripped out motorsport JDM version much more interesting in my book.
 
I own two Mercedes w201 190e and a Mercedes w124 e320. Recently the value of these cars have shot through the roof for a good example.
 
OldCarlos said:
Capri 280 Brooklands. :cool: Only a few hundred left these days.
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Ford kept the very last one for their own collection. One of the first cars through the channel tunnel.


They have quite a few cars in their Heritage Collection, so many in fact they loan them out to other car museums as they don't have the room to keep them,
This https://www.carthrottle.com/post/fords-heritage-collection-is-a-treasure-trove-of-petrolhead-porn/ shows some of their collection. Whole lot worth quite a bit I should imagine. Used to se some of them quite often when I was based down at Dagenham
 
Fantastic collection. I particularly like the old lotus Cortina. :cool:
 
OldCarlos said:
Fantastic collection. I particularly like the old lotus Cortina. :cool:
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I'm quite partial to them too. You'd have enjoyed the Lotus Festival a couple of years ago at Brands Hatch. They were celebrating 50yrs of the Lotus Cortina, other than about 15 cars racing, owners turned up to put their road cars on display, around 100 cars, including around 10 mk2's. Never thought I'd see so many all in one place.
 
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