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Over the last few years I've collected loads of film era lenses, and more than a few film bodies too.

Most of the lenses will get adapted to digital at some point (there's a few like the CZJ Werra lenses that don't adapt well.
So far 3 of the film cameras have been used for digital too (through the viewfinder)
In reality it's only the 5x4 & some of medium format stuff that has any chance of being used for film.
 

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Over the last few years I've collected loads of film era lenses, and more than a few film bodies too.

Most of the lenses will get adapted to digital at some point (there's a few like the CZJ Werra lenses that don't adapt well.
So far 3 of the film cameras have been used for digital too (through the viewfinder)
In reality it's only the 5x4 & some of medium format stuff that has any chance of being used for film.
H'mm I would have thought we would be more interested in the results of your lenses.... on film. And it's a shame (inc all digi guys) that old lenses are being ruined by adapting for digi use.
 
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...And it's a shame (inc all digi guys) that old lenses are being ruined by adapting for digi use.
Surely "adapting" here means simply attaching to a digi camera via an adapter? Nothing then to stop the lens subsequently being used for film photography.

Although I'm sometimes a bit grumpy at the thought of the digi guys driving the price of legacy lenses up, I also think anything that stops them being thrown in the bin is a good thing!
 

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Surely "adapting" here means simply attaching to a digi camera via an adapter? Nothing then to stop the lens subsequently being used for film photography.

Although I'm sometimes a bit grumpy at the thought of the digi guys driving the price of legacy lenses up, I also think anything that stops them being thrown in the bin is a good thing!
Indeed separate adapters have to be used for many digi cameras but some digi guys take the pin out of screw lenses and also grind parts down or remove them. :(
 
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H'mm I would have thought we would be more interested in the results of your lenses.... on film. And it's a shame (inc all digi guys) that old lenses are being ruined by adapting for digi use.
YOU might be more interested with the results on film (but would only get to see them if digitised), I think more photographers would be interested in kit that COULD be used with their hardware, many more aren't bothered by the hardware used at all.

Indeed separate adapters have to be used for many digi cameras but some digi guys take the pin out of screw lenses and also grind parts down or remove them. :(
None of my adaptions have prevented use in the original way, though a few of the 'integrated' lenses have been removed from the original camera before I got them and the original bodies have probably been discarded.
It is highly likely the bodies of these antiques were no longer usable due to worn bellows/light seals/seized shutters etc. but as I've never seen them, & don't even know what models they were, I can only speculate .

All but one of my conversions have been completely reversible, the exception being a projector lens needed a bit of excess metal removed from behind the rear element.

The only way I've read about for adapting my werra lenses, involves stripping the mount off the camera - I won't do that even though it's probably the only way I'd be able to use a Carl Zeiss 'Cardinar' (a fairly unusual optic set up giving 100mm f/4)

FWIW the majority of grinding conversions are just removing shields on M42 lenses - no need for any of my conversions but wouldn't effect their original use either.

I'm sure more film era lenses are ruined by storage (fungus & seizing) than by conversion. The more they are used the better chance they'll survive.

Using them in their original format would in some cases involve using film that is no longer available for a inferior image (110 film)
In addition using film costs significantly more, ends up with a less useful image, introduces long delays & doesn't have any info recorded with the image.
Even if it's just the date/time, shutter speed & camera EXIF can help a lot in tracking what you've done. For me film has fairly limited appeal - I play with chemicals all the time at work!
 
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That is a job for a long winter evening but not too much of a hassle. .....
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The corrosion from the battery compartment had tracked back all the way through the black wire. Now replaced wire end to end and circuit board checked and cleaned. ---- IT LIVES! meter responsive and accurate. Result. Trickiest parts - feeding the wire all the way back through (used a bit of sewing thread as a pull through) next that darned huge compression spring on the shutter/film speed dial and finally the three 1mm grub screws on the film counter, either they get smaller over the years or I need to go back to Specsavers and complain.
 
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Warning topless photograph follows (of that K1000)

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The corrosion from the battery compartment had tracked back all the way through the black wire. Now replaced wire end to end and circuit board checked and cleaned. ---- IT LIVES! meter responsive and accurate. Result. Trickiest parts - feeding the wire all the way back through (used a bit of sewing thread as a pull through) next that darned huge compression spring on the shutter/film speed dial and finally the three 1mm grub screws on the film counter, either they get smaller over the years or I need to go back to Specsavers and complain.

Great job , The OM lives again :cool:
 

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Warning topless photograph follows (of that K1000)

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The corrosion from the battery compartment had tracked back all the way through the black wire. Now replaced wire end to end and circuit board checked and cleaned. ---- IT LIVES! meter responsive and accurate. Result. Trickiest parts - feeding the wire all the way back through (used a bit of sewing thread as a pull through) next that darned huge compression spring on the shutter/film speed dial and finally the three 1mm grub screws on the film counter, either they get smaller over the years or I need to go back to Specsavers and complain.
Well done....for those attempting to take apart Japanese cameras and lenses (and in case anyone doesn't know)....the cross head screws need a Japanese fit screw driver and not any old Phillips type one. A set bought at Halfords years ago work for me and are tough, but I'm not saying go out a buy them as they might not be selling the same ones today.
 
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Well done....for those attempting to take apart Japanese cameras and lenses (and in case anyone doesn't know)....the cross head screws need a Japanese fit screw driver and not any old Phillips type one. A set bought at Halfords years ago work for me and are tough, but I'm not saying go out a buy them as they might not be selling the same ones today.
JIS screwdrivers are readily available via amazon, not cheap, but available. Never seen them in Halfords, RS, etc.
 

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JIS screwdrivers are readily available via amazon, not cheap, but available. Never seen them in Halfords, RS, etc.
Looked on Halfords site and none like the ones I bought....if anyone passing by they might have old stock going cheap...it's in a black case 32cm X 25cm and 15 screwdrivers with red handles with a few other bits and pieces......I mainly use the smalls ones and am quite impressed that the tips haven't deformed on some tough little screws, whether they were made for Japanese screws I have no idea but they work for me.
 
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Following on the K1000 saga - two photos from a swapped roll I took to check it out - it works. HP5+

Dull day in Newcastle

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They don't half hare round this round-about.
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Don't know where to put this link, but it's free so a bargain. Have played with it for a few minutes and works only with a person in the shot and seems to be to send to your printer...maybe there is a way to copy and paste to save as a JPG.
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I'm not sure if this really fits here or not, but I'm not convinced it's worth a separate thread. For many years I have been consulting the Butkus site for information and manuals on older cameras, and for whatever reason I've never actually contributed to his site. I've finally bunged them a few quid to make me feel better and hopefully helped them a bit. It's still a real bargain though. ;) https://www.butkus.org/chinon/index.html
 

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I generally drop them a fiver every year as I use them a lot, a very good website and worth a contribution. :)
 
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