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I can see why the OP was a bit miffed by their situation. To have someone actively discourage, or at least undermine their situation to deter people from buying their images seemed spiteful.
Exactly.
I can see why the OP was a bit miffed by their situation. To have someone actively discourage, or at least undermine their situation to deter people from buying their images seemed spiteful.
I'm sorry but that is incredibly patronising.
If an individual is happy with the free image who are you to tell them that your paid for product is so much better? It may be to you but if it is not in thier eyes then to them it isn't.
Why do some of the pros on here think that their market should be protected from changes in market forces that have undermined or threatened to undermine their business model?
Good !!
I came back to this thread looking forward to a photo of a blond in a white wet T shirt but you appear to have scared her away
This has been an interesting thread, if a bit heated.
I can see why the OP was a bit miffed by their situation. To have someone actively discourage, or at least undermine their situation to deter people from buying their images seemed spiteful.
I can also see why people took exception to Tom's opinion, it may have not been put across in the most diplomatic manner, though I doubt any of us are diplomats.
I think the Butcher analogy was a valid one, although Tom seemed to dismiss it out of hand. When I worked in a department store, it used to irritate me when people would come in, look at the goods and then say it was £'s cheaper on the Internet. I knew that, they didn't need to tell me, but took satisfaction in doing it. :shrug: I wouldn't have appreciated another customer chiming in on the conversion to say it was even cheaper somewhere else. Inform the other customer by all means, but don't do it in front of me. That situation was different because obviously an Ipod is an Ipod regardless of where you buy, though in that situation the customer service and convenience of getting the goods there and then is what you were paying extra for, whereas each photograph is unique, and each photo has a value to the photographer and the viewer. To some Photographers the value is someone appreciating their work. For Pro's it is up to the photographer(s) to get into a situation where they have a monopoly on the situation, as at football stadiums, or produce images that are markedly better than the average chap in the street could get to justify the value they give the image.
I didn't see any 'threats' btw, but then I could be wrong and not have perceived something as a threat as it was not aimed at me. :shrug:
I can also see why people took exception to Tom's opinion
If you dont think the replies were threatening look at the last line of the first post after mine and tell me that is not a threatening line, Be warned my friend, there are plenty of people out there who can bite you on the arse if you take away their livelihood.
Most of us didn't. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and IMHO entitled to do what they want with there own pictures... It was the way he wanted to shove it in everyones face knowing (from his own experience) there would be a reaction..
For the love of god...if it scares you that much, then report it. :razz:
The point is not the strength of the threat but that one was made.
Most of us didn't. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and IMHO entitled to do what they want with there own pictures... It was the way he wanted to shove it in everyones face knowing (from his own experience) there would be a reaction..
Tony as usual hits the nail on the head.
To change the butcher analogy a bit
Tom is the butcher
I am also a butcher
I set up my stall outside Tom's shop
I have inferior meat
I give it away for free
99% of people who would buy Tom's meat now prefer to get my inferior meat as it's free.
Tom = peeved
Then report it. That's what the little red triangle is for.
It's truthful...I know you've stated you don't want to be a pro...but if you turn up at a ground to take your free shots and someone else is there to sell, don't be surprised if they try and sabotage a bit.
I think I mentioned, it's a "dog eat dog" world out there, and if someone feels their livelihood is being threatened then they'll possibly do something to protect it.
To be fair, you came here to have a pop about free photos and when someone gives it back you complain you're being threatened.
If you're going to troll, try and be a bit more original.
whats the point of this thread again?
All this OP because you didn't use BCC in the email.
ha ha i was going to give a poinient post but i wanted some humour...
back on subject, i can see why your annoyed though, could be worth just letting this one go... or just accusing her of taking pictures of children without permission
i only read all this thread because of the promise of a woman in white shirt in river !!!!
wasted 30 mins of my life...
So there's a butchers giving away free pictures?
So there's a butchers giving away free pictures?
As promised (to lighten the thread), here's the woman I was on about. I'm not jealous ......... but why doesn't she buy a longer lens, then there would be no need to get wet.........
I hate to bring the thread down to this level.... but I would
KIPAX, you would if it was me in the water
Bet you don't look as good in wet t-shirt though.
apparently because big rob has an inferior sausage