Steve said:Well technically RAW has a +/- 2 stop lattitude according to most professionals, within that range the noise is virtually no different as far as I can see in my own results.
Steve said:The thing to ask yourself is what circumstances are you adjusting for, I suspect that you may be attempting to maintain shutter speed at the expense of 1 or two stops adjustment in exposure during post processing...
Steve said:There again I am also very fortunate to be using a camera that has low noise at both the iso setting that you have stated.
CT said:There you go!
fingerz said:That's exactly right. I find quite often that I can't get the shutter speeds I want at ISO 100 and I'm not a fan of digital grain/noise so I'm usually reluctant to go higher than 100.
Which camera are you using? I thought ISO was supposed to be a standard, so it was similar noise levels on all cameras. Guess I was wrong.
fingerz said:As an aside, and with my 'ISO standards' theory in mind, I always thought it was a big coincidence that digital cameras had similar exposure times to film cameras given that they are two completely different technologies. You'd think that one of them would have an advantage and therefore be able to get comparable shots at higher shutter speeds.
I agree noise levels can vary enormousy from one digital camera to another.Steve said:This is an area where CT will be able to answer far more accurately than I, however I take the iso standards in digital and this example to reflect what you can expect your settings to be for a given amount of light vs shutter speed/aperture. It would therefore give a similar setting across digital and conventional film although the noise levels can and do vary frequently at the same iso settings from camera to camera.
Remember there is no longer the same constant of make/type/speed of film in all the cameras as we are talking digital. I have never been a big film shooter so I could be wrong here but I suspect that two different brands of the same speed film may produce different grain (read noise). That can be extended to digital sensors in cameras, the same sensor and electronics should produce the same amounts of noise, however a different sensor and electronics from another camera manufacturer returns different noise-even at the same iso settings.
CT said:We could have a whip round and buy fingerz a flashgun - save answering these questions.
CT said:We could have a whip round and buy fingerz a flashgun - save answering these questions.
gandhi said:'tis indeed true. Film grain depends entirely on the quality of the film itself. A pro film stock at 400 iso will produce noticeably less (smaller) grain size than a cheapo 400iso film from tesco!
gandhi said:it's just yet another extension of 'you get what you pay for' However, some cameras do use the same sensors and produce different levels of noise, mostly due to the internal processing that goes on with JPEGS. And I don't think RAW files are free of this constriction either, as different cameras produce different format raw files as the data is managed in different ways.
fingerz said:Which of these two options will have the least noise?
1) Shooting at ISO 200.
2) Shooting at ISO 100 and pushing the RAW file one stop.
gandhi said:"pairs of sneakers"
*shakes head* the youth of today, I dunno
Matt said:I'm sure you can still get 'Dunlop green flash' CT.
Matt said:I'm sure you can still get 'Dunlop green flash' CT.
gandhi said:my flat mate has a pair of 'green flash' but he's gay and can get away with it lol.
fingerz said:
Steve said:This thread started out as a cracker and has descended into disarray and ecstasy for a anyone who is related to Imelda Marcos or has a foot fetish
IanC_UK said:These are so chav its unreal ! :whistling
fingerz said:I'll oblige then...
Steve said:You have a gay flat mate - I think I would have kept that information to myself :whistling