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Was reading this article on the BBC website and it is truly amazing how many pass me on the M20 using their phones in the acceleration lane in speeds excess of the law........I once saw a guy change his shirt and text whilst driving from Gatwick, I drove along side him, he was doing 75 miles an hour in the middle lane.......I would have filmed him but then I would have equally been quilt of using a phone whilst driving


Drivers on mobiles 'often texting or on internet' - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31634425
 
Texting/ internet use whilst driving should be a mandatory 12 month ban and £1000 fine.

Hand held phone use should be 6 month with the same fine.

Until a deterrent is introduced, it won`t stop. IMO, texting whilst driving is as bad as driving whilst p***ed.
 
fracster said:
Texting/ internet use whilst driving should be a mandatory 12 month ban and £1000 fine.

Hand held phone use should be 6 month with the same fine.

Until a deterrent is introduced, it won`t stop. IMO, texting whilst driving is as bad as driving whilst p***ed.
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Could not agree more, the brain dead t--ts have less respect for your life, your families , childrens lives than they do for their own, an instant ban
is what I would suggest.
 
Faf-arsing around with a satnav whilst driving should also carry the same penalties.
 
I don't even like chatting with any passengers while driving and have very rarely used my car's hands free capabilities. Sat nav gets set (if used) before heading off.
 
My ex had a habit of pointing and saying look when I was driving at something of interest to her, use to do my head in thinking
I had to avoid someone or something.

I do not have the radio on as I find it distracting, never use to bother me until the advancing yrs caught up with me.
 
trouble is, if you ban people from holding a phone to their ear whilst driving, many will just try to conceal the fact they are using it.
And I have always believed that one thing that is many times more dangerous than using a phone whilst driving is trying to hide the fact that you are using a phone.
 
Unless it is made physically impossible it will never stop.The same as public transport,travel on a train and there are about 48 seats in a coach and 40 are on mobile phones in someway or another.
 
Only 40 out of 48....there must have been something pretty rare or interesting going on in that coach.

Women wearing headscarves seem to regularly slide the phone under the scarf and carry on talking for hours. The concentrated radio waves must be frying any brain they had.

Worst one though was a woman driving in the outside lane of the motorway, overtaking everyone at breakneck speed with blusher brush in one hand and mirror/powder balanced in the other. I hope she managed to apply it evenly.
 
Nod said:
I don't even like chatting with any passengers while driving and have very rarely used my car's hands free capabilities. Sat nav gets set (if used) before heading off.
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+1 for "holier than thou...."


Come on, every driver talks to people if passengers in car. Does the radio distract you? I will confess, I regularly talk to work colleagues when in car.. but its a pool car, bluetoothed up via sat nav and radio.... so press a button on the wheel and say "Call Vicki work".. for example...

No different as to if, she was sitting in the pax seat.
 
One that worries me is where the driver constantly has toturn their head to speak to the passenger. Especially disappointing as they claim the ability to multi-task
 
Lynton said:
+1 for "holier than thou...."


Come on, every driver talks to people if passengers in car. Does the radio distract you? I will confess, I regularly talk to work colleagues when in car.. but its a pool car, bluetoothed up via sat nav and radio.... so press a button on the wheel and say "Call Vicki work".. for example...

No different as to if, she was sitting in the pax seat.
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I genuinely don't like talking to people while I'm driving. Especially on the phone. Can you say that you're giving your attention to the job in hand while you're discussing work stuff on the phone? Or chatting to Mrs Smith beside you? Or (even worse) talking to the kids strapped into their seats behind you?
 
Nod said:
I genuinely don't like talking to people while I'm driving. Especially on the phone. Can you say that you're giving your attention to the job in hand while you're discussing work stuff on the phone? Or chatting to Mrs Smith beside you? Or (even worse) talking to the kids strapped into their seats behind you?
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I found that the conversation stopped when any 'interesting' situation was developing. Not that I suddenly found Uncle Henry's hernia so interesting I stopped driving. It is the same as having a conversation while on this site. I stop speaking while typing.
 
Nod said:
I genuinely don't like talking to people while I'm driving. Especially on the phone. Can you say that you're giving your attention to the job in hand while you're discussing work stuff on the phone? Or chatting to Mrs Smith beside you? Or (even worse) talking to the kids strapped into their seats behind you?
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Got to admit I am the same ,I like peace and quite when I am driving, I even apologise to people and tell them I am not being rude if I don't make conversation.
 
kevin0410 said:
trouble is, if you ban people from holding a phone to their ear whilst driving, many will just try to conceal the fact they are using it.
And I have always believed that one thing that is many times more dangerous than using a phone whilst driving is trying to hide the fact that you are using a phone.
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There's a gajillion hands free / touch free options available.
 
ST4 said:
Most are fitted to cars standard these days. Especially posh ones.
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But even if they're not, there's no excuse.
 
Lynton said:
No different as to if, she was sitting in the pax seat.
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Sorry, but that is just wrong. There is lots of research that shows that someone physically in the car with you can see what you are doing or what is going on outside and adjusts their conversation accordingly. Someone on the phone can't see that and just carries on regardless of what you are having to do.
 
Bythesea said:
Sorry, but that is just wrong. There is lots of research that shows that someone physically in the car with you can see what you are doing or what is going on outside and adjusts their conversation accordingly. Someone on the phone can't see that and just carries on regardless of what you are having to do.
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show me.

I maintain, and yes this is going to go downhill.. if doing 70 on a motorway it is dull, boring, I am changing radio stations etc.... if when in Germany, autobahn and I can do considerably more than 70.... ones focus becomes more dedicated to the task in hand..
 
Lynton said:
show me.

I maintain, and yes this is going to go downhill.. if doing 70 on a motorway it is dull, boring, I am changing radio stations etc.... if when in Germany, autobahn and I can do considerably more than 70.... ones focus becomes more dedicated to the task in hand..
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Quite happy to, though you will have to wait till Monday when I am back at work.
 
You can't hear the radio at 70 in my car, so you have to use the internet to entertain yourself....:naughty:
 
ST4 said:
Most are fitted to cars standard these days. Especially posh ones.
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The weird thing is though, a lot of the offenders that I notice are in rather high end cars. Especially Range Rover Sports, i find that very very strange.

Got to admit that coming out of London yesterday afternoon I was on the phone for about an hour. However, rather than loosing my concentration on the road I always choose to loose it with the conversation when slightly trickier situations crop up.

I wish they could find a way to come down hard on those hand held offenders, there just isn't a valid reason.

And yes, drivers who feel the need to turn their face to their passenger to speak. What is up with them?
 
dejongj said:
The weird thing is though, a lot of the offenders that I notice are in rather high end cars. Especially Range Rover Sports, i find that very very strange. ?
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I don't. Of all the cars badly driven on the roads JLRs are right up there. There's a distastefulnes to an RRS that goes with the inability to pair the phone with the Bluetooth system.

Why wouldn't you go hands free, the caller is easier to hear and it mutes the stereo too. My Mercedes even synced the contacts so you could see who's calling
 
What I have never been able to get my head around is the FACT that while it's illegal for members of the general public to use a mobile phone while driving ,it's perfectly legal and acceptable for members of the police to use two way radios while driving ,also taxi drivers and i would think some others to ,and I wonder how many HGV drivers still have the old demon a CB radio fitted ,all such devices require you to use one hand to key the microphone and also require you to take your mind off the road while responding and driving one handed .
 
I always thought, in the case of the police, those radios were hands free, operated by a foot pedal or a switch on the gear stick. Not sure about taxi drivers though. You have to concede, there will be times they need to communicate and pulling up could cause serious delays.

Edit I think two way radios are exempt from the act anyway
 
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Saw a dumper truck only a couple of feet off the bumper of a car doing about 60 (or maybe less) on a dual carriageway yesterday. The car driver was messing with his screen mounted phone, so I dont know if the trucker was trying to intimidate him, but both were being arsewholes.
 
new2me said:
, but both were being arsewholes.
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Just like the Mum I saw a couple of days ago, cross a local, but quite busy T-junction, the push chair leads the charge,
the two sprogs (at a guess no more than 5 years old) are escorting said push chair playing wing men.
Mum head down phone glued to her ear walks the push chair and sprogs straight into the path of turning traffic.

The driver, does the correct thing, a quick blast on the hooter to warn of his approach, mum lifts he head, turning to the driver
gives him a cheery wave, of acknowledgement, you know, the two finger kind!
 
There's a woman I see every Saturday at the local supermarket holding a full conversation as she does her shopping. Abandons trolley blocking the isle, often stops shopping at a point in the conversation. This is 7:30-8am. Who needs to have a long chat with a friend at that time?
 
If you want to see frightening drive behaver ride a motorcycle like I do personal worst see twice a "driver" bottle feeding on a motorway !!
 
The majority of "bikers" I see ballooning around the place, they have no right to criticise anybody else,bloody lunatics.
 
Yes plenty of Loonies on two wheels but we not all mad !
 
davebike said:
Yes plenty of Loonies on two wheels but we not all mad !
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I know Dave, just the idiots do tend to give the sensible guys a bit of a s***ty reputation.
 
fracster said:
I know Dave, just the idiots do tend to give the sensible guys a bit of a s***ty reputation.
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And at least I've never seen a biker breast feeding while riding ;)
 
fracster said:
The majority of "bikers" I see ballooning around the place, they have no right to criticise anybody else,bloody lunatics.
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The majority? The "bloody lunatics" tend to have a self limiting lifespan.
 
ChasG said:
One that worries me is where the driver constantly has toturn their head to speak to the passenger. Especially disappointing as they claim the ability to multi-task
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Have you ever tried driving and talking to passengers like they do on telly and films? Don't! :) Driving down a road at say, 40 mph and looking at the passenger for the whole time that you're talking, always cracks me up :)
 
Bythesea said:
There is lots of research that shows that someone physically in the car with you can see what you are doing or what is going on outside and adjusts their conversation accordingly. Someone on the phone can't see that and just carries on regardless of what you are having to do.
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Absolutely. That's why I gave up using a hands free kit and now I don't use a phone whilst driving. If you're trying to pull out at a big roundabout, or trying to work out which lane you need to be using in a complex road network, the person on the phone doesn't shut up to let you deal with it in the same way that a passenger does.
 
Farmerjim said:
Have you ever tried driving and talking to passengers like they do on telly and films? Don't! :) Driving down a road at say, 40 mph and looking at the passenger for the whole time that you're talking, always cracks me up :)
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and also the need, despite driving in a straight line, to turn the steering wheel to and fro on a regular basis
 
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