IApparently no integrated fire alarm. No sprinklers, flammable cladding.
As per fire regs
Sprinklers are not fitted to the outside of buildings where the fire seems to have spread.
Fire alarms are also not required for communal areas but other things went wrong here and it too early to say what series of (probably numerous small) events led to this disaster.
Fires have happened in the blocks before and have not spread so why this time?
I believe labour were in government when the report on the safety on high rise buildings was needed after the last major high rise fire in 2009.
Why didn't labour act on it then?
Please don't use a terrible accident to peddle your political views
Still a Labour government.Maybe if you had read my post instead of jumping on you're high horse...I clearly state that I'm not using this to peddle my political views as you clearly put it and I think you will find that the last major high rise fire was in fact 6th Apr 2010 FFS
You introduced the matter.Maybe if you had read my post instead of jumping on you're high horse...I clearly state that I'm not using this to peddle my political views as you clearly put it and I think you will find that the last major high rise fire was in fact 6th Apr 2010 FFS
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some stories doing the rounds loads of immigrants and asylum seekers in this block with gas cannister stoves in their flats.
No way anything like that would be known or even suspected at this point but those who spread these rumours know there are plenty of people who'd believe it. There's some vile stuff on the internet today.
Back on topic, so how many will now ignore the normal advice to stay in the flat and wait for the firefighters to get there. Those that survived appear to be those that ignored that and left the building quickly.
I'm sure I heard on one of the news channels that an appliance caught fire and that was reported by the tenant who apparently went knocking on doors to raise the alarm once they realised it was out of control.
Can't for the life of me remember where I heard it so may well be just another rumour. However not surprised at all that there are people out there using is as a way string up the hornets nest by claiming fault lies with immigration.
They rescued someone from the lower floors around midday!
Could be anything. Deodorant cans go off with a hell of a bang.Listening to BBC news 24 this morning and one of the reports someone said something about an explosion in one of the flats.
However I have only heard that the once and have not seen or heard it repeated on the BBC or elsewhere
Could be anything. Deodorant cans go off with a hell of a bang.
I'm sure I heard on one of the news channels that an appliance caught fire and that was reported by the tenant who apparently went knocking on doors to raise the alarm once they realised it was out of control.
Piper Alpha, and it would appear this incident too, involved circumstances that were not foreseen and the right response to an anticipated emergency turned out to be the wrong response to the events that occurred. On PA the safe area would have resisted a fire but did not resist an explosion, an explosion that occurred because bad decisions were made to continue production whilst making extensive alterations and upgrades to the platform.That was the same with the Piper Alpher disaster those who stayed in the alocated safe area died when the whole compartment fell into the sea with them all inside.
its wierd but it is looking like tha deed cladding caused the fire to spread, without the cladding the integrity of it should have been ok.
poor show really.
Indeed, and it has been reported this morning that the cladding used complied with the relative fire/building regulations. Assuming that is so then it merely begs the question "how come the relative regulations permit the use of such material". If there been no cladding I cannot see how that concrete tower block could have become such in inferno in the space of a few minutes.