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Has anyone on here actually got one yet if so what’s your thoughts, seems to still be pre-order everywhere still even worse than when the 300PF came out?
 
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If they get a 600 f5.6 coming then I will get one but with the flexibility of the 200-500 I have then I don’t see to many benefits for myself in getting a 500f5.6 prime
. I have a 600f4 just now so a 5.6 could save me a lot of size and weight when travelling.
 
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If they get a 600 f5.6 coming then I will get one but with the flexibility of the 200-500 I have then I don’t see to many benefits for myself in getting a 500f5.6 prime
. I have a 600f4 just now so a 5.6 could save me a lot of size and weight when travelling.
600mm f/4 G - 445mm long, 5.06 kg
600mm f/4 E - 432mm, 3.81 kg

500mm f/4 G - 391mm, 3.88 kg
500mm f/4 E - 387mm, 3.09 kg

500mm f/5.6 PF - 237mm, 1.46 kg

200-500mm f/5.6 - 267mm, 2.09 kg

The 500 PF really is astonishingly small and light. If they could make a 600mm f/5.6 PF, I estimate that it would be about the same size and weight as the 200-500.
 
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600mm f/4 G - 445mm long, 5.06 kg
600mm f/4 E - 432mm, 3.81 kg

500mm f/4 G - 391mm, 3.88 kg
500mm f/4 E - 387mm, 3.09 kg

500mm f/5.6 PF - 237mm, 1.46 kg

200-500mm f/5.6 - 267mm, 2.09 kg

The 500 PF really is astonishingly small and light. If they could make a 600mm f/5.6 PF, I estimate that it would be about the same size and weight as the 200-500.

That would suit me, the 200-500 is a good light weight sharp lens for the money. The zoom is priceless for me but nothing beats the 600f4 for quality so would keep my lenses and add in a 600f5.6 if brought out.
 
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I've been waiting since December for one. Starting to feel like I'll never get one.

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It is not good that's for sure, spoke to a couple of the bigger mainstream suppliers and first one said they are lucky to get 1-2 per major Nikon shipment so could not give a date for availability, the second who were great when the 300 PF's came out and were like rocking horse sh*te said "Thanks for the email and really sorry do not have any dates at all so not even able to say if we will get them within 3 or 4 months"
 
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It is not good that's for sure, spoke to a couple of the bigger mainstream suppliers and first one said they are lucky to get 1-2 per major Nikon shipment so could not give a date for availability, the second who were great when the 300 PF's came out and were like rocking horse sh*te said "Thanks for the email and really sorry do not have any dates at all so not even able to say if we will get them within 3 or 4 months"
I moved from shooting Canon for 30 years to Nikon specifically for this lens. I was having really bad elbow and arm problems and using my Canon 500 MM F4 Mk2 was becoming a serious problem for me. I'm coming up to my 4th trip away without the PF and it's frustrating the crap out of me (especially with having paid full price for the lens when ordering it). It's taking all my willpower to not just say sod it and cancelling the order and picking up a 500 F4 G. If I do that I might as wall have just stayed with Canon. Grrrrrr.

I was at No4 on the list when I ordered and now at No3.

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It's taking all my willpower to not just say sod it and cancelling the order and picking up a 500 F4 G. If I do that I might as wall have just stayed with Canon. Grrrrrr.
It's worse than that.

Nikon AF-S 500mm f/4 G ED VR ..... 3.88 kg
Canon EF 500mm f/4 L IS II USM ..... 3.19 kg

Canon EF 600mm f/4 L IS III USM ..... 3.05 kg
Canon EF 500mm f/4 L IS III USM ..... 2.5 kg possibly? (My estimate based on what canon have done with the 400/2.8 III and 600 III.)
 
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It's worse than that.

Nikon AF-S 500mm f/4 G ED VR ..... 3.88 kg
Canon EF 500mm f/4 L IS II USM ..... 3.19 kg

Canon EF 600mm f/4 L IS III USM ..... 3.05 kg
Canon EF 500mm f/4 L IS III USM ..... 2.5 kg possibly? (My estimate based on what canon have done with the 400/2.8 III and 600 III.)
Thankfully the weight of the 500 G is what has stopped me cancelling the order. Knowing what I know now if I could turn back the clock to December I wouldn't be swapping systems. The D850/D500 are great but the lenses have left me very disappointed. The Nikon 24-70 is no match for my old Canon 24-70 F2.8 Mk2. The 16-35 F4 and Tamron 15-35 F2.8 G2 aren't on the same page as my Canon 16-35 F4 was. The Nikon 200-500 also doesn't stack up very well against my Canon 100-400 Mk2 (haven't tried the Nikon 80-400 but most people seem to prefer the 200-500 anyway). The Nikon 70-200 F2.8 is the only lens that I don't feel like I've lost anything over the Canon 70-200 F2.8 Mk2. I'm just hoping the 500 PF turns out to be as good as most people make it out to be and pray that another 24-70 comes along that offers better quality at the wide end than the one that I have.

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It's worse than that.

Nikon AF-S 500mm f/4 G ED VR ..... 3.88 kg
Canon EF 500mm f/4 L IS II USM ..... 3.19 kg

Canon EF 600mm f/4 L IS III USM ..... 3.05 kg
Canon EF 500mm f/4 L IS III USM ..... 2.5 kg possibly? (My estimate based on what canon have done with the 400/2.8 III and 600 III.)
Should you not compare the Canon 500 IS II USM with the newer Nikon 500 FL ? which is 3.09kg ? that aside still incredibly frustrating when they launch a new lens with such limited stocks and the balance between "hyping it up" and upsetting customers is a fine balance
 

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Should you not compare the Canon 500 IS II USM with the newer Nikon 500 FL ?
Well maybe, but Gary did specifically say he was tempted to pick up "a 500 F4 G".

that aside still incredibly frustrating when they launch a new lens with such limited stocks and the balance between "hyping it up" and upsetting customers is a fine balance
Agreed. And it's not as if Nikon don't have previous on this score, either.
 
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Having just had my monthly check up to see how my order is proceeding (still No3 on the list) I have been informed that Nikon have temporarily stopped production of the 300PF so that they can try and increase supply of the 500PF. Here's hoping.

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Having just had my monthly check up to see how my order is proceeding (still No3 on the list) I have been informed that Nikon have temporarily stopped production of the 300PF so that they can try and increase supply of the 500PF. Here's hoping.

Gary
Ah that explains why that seems to be out of stock at some locations now, good news hopefully if they really can ramp up production now
 
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Just had a look at some images from them on Flickr due to reading this thread , looks like one to be watched
 

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I've got a couple more of these on order, and the other day I asked my supplier how the supply situation was looking. The answer was that I'm currently 30th on their list, and they're getting about 2 per month.....
 
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I've got a couple more of these on order, and the other day I asked my supplier how the supply situation was looking. The answer was that I'm currently 30th on their list, and they're getting about 2 per month.....
WOW that's not good !! no wonder they trying to ramp up manufacturing
 
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My lens finally arrived today after ordering in January. A week late for the Air Tattoo but just in time for a 10 day road trip to inc. The Silverstone Classic, Heathrow,RAF Lakenheath and then the BTCC at Snetterton. Looking forward to giving it a good test.

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Look forward to initial reports :)
 
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My lens finally arrived today after ordering in January. A week late for the Air Tattoo but just in time for a 10 day road trip to inc. The Silverstone Classic, Heathrow,RAF Lakenheath and then the BTCC at Snetterton. Looking forward to giving it a good test.

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Hey any feedback yet :)
 
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I'm still away atm but have taken a lot of images with the lens over the weekend. The handling is excellent and feels much better to use than the 200-500 that I have been using while waiting for the 500 PF to arrive. The IS seems to work very good - better than the 200-500 and much better than the 70-200 F2.8 VR2. One of my main concerns was how it would handle the 1.4 tcon. I have been pleasantly surprised. The images look sharp and the AF worked better than expected (for motorsport). I found the 200-500 unusable for moving subjects so I breathed a sigh of relief when the 500 PF seemed to work so well. So far so good.

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Now back from trip and have to say that the 500 PF was a pleasure to use and a lot easier to carry about than the Canon 500 F4's that I've been using for the last 4 or 5 years. I would actually go as far as saying that my keeper rate is up compared to what I would normally expect when using the 500 F4's. That is down to being able to hand hold the lens continuously rather than needing to put a 500 F4 on to a monopod or gimbal for prolonged shooting (which I always end up doing for motorsport). I'm much smoother hand holding compared to a monopod or tripod with gimbal.
I was really interested to see how the lens would handle when shooting through catch fencing at places like Donington Park and Silverstone. I was pleasantly surprised and it seemed to be almost as good as the 500 F4's. The AF worked as good as I've been used to with the only downside being the fence being slightly more visible in the shots when the sun was catching it.
Nikon D500 + 500 PF , ISO 100, 1/200 sec, F8 through catch fencing


Nikon D500 + 500 PF , ISO 100, 1/200 sec, F10 through catch fencing


Nikon D850 + 500 PF , ISO 280, 1/1250 sec, F5.6


Nikon D500 + 500 PF , ISO 140, 1/200 sec, F5.6


Nikon D500 + 500 PF , ISO 100, 1/200 sec, F11


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Trying out the 500PF with the 1.4 Tcon was also a priority. Once again I was pleasantly surprised. The AF took a hit but the IQ was still very good (way better than I had experienced with the Nikon 200-500). Overhall I'm very happy with the purchase and glad that I toughed out the wait. A Nikon 500 F4 was nearly in the bag at numerous times during the 6 month wait!

Nikon D500 + 500 PF + 1.4 Tcon , ISO 125, 1/200 sec, F8 Through catch fencing


Nikon D500 + 500 PF + 1.4 Tcon , ISO 1100, 1/640 sec, F8 Through a fence and in very poor light


Nikon D500 + 500 PF + 1.4 Tcon , ISO 320, 1/200 sec, F8


Nikon D500 + 500 PF + 1.4 Tcon , ISO 320, 1/320 sec, F8


Nikon D850 + 500 PF + 1.4 Tcon , ISO 560, 1/400 sec, F8 - Not the best picture in the world but taken at long distance in very poor conditions. I wanted to see how the lens resolved from a long way away. Definitely impressed considering it was wide open and had a tcon attached. If anyone knows Heathrow airport the shot was shot from 27R of a plane taking off on 09R-a huge distance away.


Nikon D850 + 500 PF + 1.4 Tcon , ISO 1000, 1/400 sec, F8 Same conditions as above with the weather slightly poorer.


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