No Togging in Edinburgh

fabs said:
I think that is for if you operate/monitor CCTV equipment. Don't think it applies to photographers.
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Its to take photos and view the public in a public place.
Im not saying this is the answer just that something like this would be good.
1. monitor the activities of a member of the public in a public or private place; or
2. identify a particular person.
 
Happy Snapper said:
Its to take photos and view the public in a public place.
Im not saying this is the answer just that something like this would be good.
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See what you're saying but I really don't think we should have to produce a licence to do something that's perfectly legal in a public place. :shrug:
 
fabs said:
See what you're saying but I really don't think we should have to produce a licence to do something that's perfectly legal in a public place. :shrug:
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No your quite right but would stop people thinking they can stop you taking shots.
 
I think a trip to Edinburgh this weekend is in order to get some pictures

:)

i was in last week with my 40d and was walking around grabbing some pics, however I want some long exposures of the wheel etc, so will need to take my tripod in and get sum shots

will post up if I have any issues

MIke
 
I took photos there this year (2 weeks ago) and last year. And I was stood right beside the security folks with my tripod etc. - not a word of complaint.

Last year I was there with 2 others so all 3 of us were going round with tripods - not exactly inconspicuous... and got good results...

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If you have problems then go and stand on the pavement in Princes st - you might still be able to get a decent view of the wheel etc.
 
ScotlandTheScare said:
I took photos there this year (2 weeks ago) and last year. And I was stood right beside the security folks with my tripod etc. - not a word of complaint.

Last year I was there with 2 others so all 3 of us were going round with tripods - not exactly inconspicuous... and got good results...

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If you have problems then go and stand on the pavement in Princes st - you might still be able to get a decent view of the wheel etc.
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I too was there last year with not an issue, it seemed this year security/organisers had some issue with any one taking photos.
However this was sorted the day after this was posted and I have since been down without an issue.
 
I am just waiting for the first time some numpty tries that with me :)
 
contrastingLight said:
I have just been told to put my camera away by security in a section of princess street gardens which is hosting a carnival with a big wheel & merry go round .
I had spotted a fellow togger getting grief from security, so to show support I set up my tripod to capture some shots.
Before I could even get my camera out my bag security approached and I asked me what I was doing.

Taking photos was my reply......

His reply was because this area had been hired from the council by the contractor they are requesting no photos are taken within the grounds.
I can apply for a permit, however he was unable tell me where from.

You can take some shots from princes street just outside the railings .....

Slightly disheartened at the state of society.

Away to set up on princess street !!
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Richard, I remember the Princes Street Gardens well with good cause as in 1990 (when security issues weren't such a paranoid obsession with authorities) I became so absorbed in capturing Edinburgh with two cameras that I left one of them hanging on the Princes Street side of the iron spear fence. I was several hundred yards away when one very honest young Scot came up to me, and handing me my camera said, "I think this must be yours" - well, it made my day and I was most grateful and impressed; we enjoyed the rest of our stay in Scotland.
 
Doesnt matter if they're hiring the grounds or not, its owned by the public.

Next time someone (including PSCO) tells you put away your camera on public land, tell them to disappear.
 
Princes Street Gardens in Edinburgh is not public land so you're wrong there. The 'problem' with shooting over Christmas was resolved and we were able to shoot without a problem - not so at other times of the year. I think it's Crown property.
 
I can't beleive that this has gone to four pages and no-one has stated the rights that you and I all hav .... as long as we are taking photo's non comercially.

It's council land and the councils are custodians only. the land belongs to you and I. If you are on council land, no matter who has hired it and you are taking photo's non-commercially then no-one, not even the plod has the right to order you to stop taking pictures.
If you are taking the photographs intentionally for commerce then you can be stopped as the financial benefit of that land and whatever is going on has been temporarily assigned to the hirer.
If you take a photo as an amateur and then someone offers to buy it (you cannot offer it for sale, it has to be by their request) the that fee is incidental to your hobby.

If stopped by a security guard or plod and told to cease your lawful activity, the first question is "am I taking photographs on private property?" If the answer is yes, then apologise and b****r off.
If the answer is no then ask "under what law do you claim authority to ask me to cease?"
There isn't one.
They can't stop you.
If they come out with the anti-terrorism laws or the Child Protection laws then inform them that they have misrepresented legislation as Law. If it's a copper that you are talking to then take his number and report him for acting outside of his authority. It is a Police officer's duty to know the laws and statutes of this land. If they misrepresent statute as law then they are acting outside of their authority, they have committed fraud and are no longer in a position of power. They cannot stand as witness against you in a court.

If they get the baton or mace out then just do as your told!

In general, never accept what a copper or security guard tell you UNLESS you are in a private place like Canary Wharf. If the location is privately owned then yes, they do have a say in who captures their photons.

Always, always, always question what they have told you and learn your rights. You have the right to take whatever photo's you want, wherever you want unless there is specific legislation forbidding it. The person challenging you has to have knowledge of what that specific piece of legislation is.

If a security guard cannot substantiate his claim of authority over you and he so much as touches you or you equipment then you can report him for assault. Tell him this. As a security guard he has to be licenced. if you report him for assault, his licence will be suspended whilst the claim is investigated, he will not be able to work.

Learn your rights.
 
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