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Decent review, Dave, thanks.Me too
Here's a review by a chap I know and who's opinion I trust... http://f16.click/gear/fujifilm-x-pro2-review.html
Dave
Decent review, Dave, thanks.Me too
Here's a review by a chap I know and who's opinion I trust... http://f16.click/gear/fujifilm-x-pro2-review.html
Dave
Depends what you shoot. The Pro-1 AF is lousy for anything moving.I'll post here what I posted on the f16.click site:
After reading this review it's certainly tempting to grab the X-Pro2.... but then again I bought my X-Pro1 for £699 with 2 lenses and the leather case, I've since sold the two lenses so the body & case only really cost me £350, I later picked up a grip from eBay for around £25, the 16mm 1.4, 23mm 1.4, & 35mm 1.4.
It looks like the Pro2 is retailing at £1,350 with used Pro1 bodies going for peanuts (£200-£250). Personally I also just picked up a mint full frame RX1R & EVF for £1,250....
I think most people would be far better served getting / keeping the Pro1 and investing the money instead in additional lenses, or something fun like say the RX1R, maybe an A7 + some legacy glass, etc. Hell get a 2nd hand Hasselblad XPan!
It doesn't mean I don't WANT one, just that at this price it really isn't worth it to me. Maybe if it was round the £800 mark I'd sell the Pro1 and make up the difference.
TL;DR : Too expensive, while I wish my Pro1 was the Pro2, I haven't missed any shots with the Pro1 to date.
lets be honest the x2 pro looks good I wont be changing my a7ii or a7r ii for it but I'm glad the Fuji sensor is improving as was a fan in my x100s when I owned it I'm personally more excited for the x70
Depends what you shoot. The Pro-1 AF is lousy for anything moving.
Opening rrp is a nonsense for early adopters. It'll soon drop.Agreed, but for £1350 you could pick up something that had much better AF for moving targets, if that is one of your key requirements. I'm happy the Pro2 is there, but with T1s going for £500, Pro1s going for £250, £1350 seems waaaaaaaaay too much.
Me too
Here's a review by a chap I know and who's opinion I trust... http://f16.click/gear/fujifilm-x-pro2-review.html
Dave
The only thing that is slightly puzzling me, is that now the Evf's are so very good, does it really still need the expense and complication of an optical Vf.
Before I bought my X30, which is now a generation back Evf wise, I thought optical finders were essential, now all I notice is their disadvantages. I am, I suppose, thoroughly converted.
But I suppose this is the wrong time to start a wish list.
It is what we all do though.
I had thought they might be able to squeeze more juice in there but without a bigger battery I'm not sure what can be done, its an issue for all mirrorless though, not just the Fuji's, the A7ii uses juice very quickly too.
If the XPro2 came out without an OVF there would have been an absolute s*** storm.
A hybrid viewfinder is something for everyone and they've got the technology down to a T. To not include it would have been suicide IMO.
I am sure you are right, but one day the question will become a serious one. Just as will a tiltable or even detachable wifi Back screen.
Though you hardly need a bandolier of batteries slung across your shoulder, two or thee in a pocket or pouch, serves about any days shooting.
First field test video I've seen.... Just watching now.
PS: @Toxic might be worth editing the thread title to make this the Official XP2 thread.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQmKcmC8Kmg
Opening rrp is a nonsense for early adopters. It'll soon drop.
I refer you to me previous answer regarding AF performance. A camera is only a bargain to me if it can keep up with kids.I just checked online, brand new X-Pro1 + 2 lenses & leather case.... £499. Sorry but it's going to have to come down a hell of a lot to outweigh that as one of the best bargains around in photography.
As an aside after reading all of the X-Pro2 reviews I was convinced my Pro1 was a bag of turds resigned to history and probably broken.
I grabbed it, turned it on, and .... it still takes photos... ! and they are still as great as the reviews say!
Catastrophe avoided.
I'm off to book flights to Marrakech at a fraction of the price to upgrade, I'll post the pics on here with my Pro1 .
I refer you to me previous answer regarding AF performance. A camera is only a bargain to me if it can keep up with kids.
Thanks for the tip.I really don't think the X-Pro series is aimed at sports/kids photographers. If that's what you need I'd recommend anything by Nikon, Canon, or m4/3.
I just checked online, brand new X-Pro1 + 2 lenses & leather case.... £499. Sorry but it's going to have to come down a hell of a lot to outweigh that as one of the best bargains around in photography.
As an aside after reading all of the X-Pro2 reviews I was convinced my Pro1 was a bag of turds resigned to history and probably broken.
I grabbed it, turned it on, and .... it still takes photos... ! and they are still as great as the reviews say!
Catastrophe avoided.
I'm off to book flights to Marrakech at a fraction of the price to upgrade, I'll post the pics on here with my Pro1 .
Every occur to you the XPro2 thread might not be for you?
I'm probably just a luddite, still happy with my Hasselblad XPan II, Contax G2, Rolleiflex, OM10, Ricoh GR, RX1R, etc... or maybe as a result of owning all that stupid stuff I'm just way past the point of thinking that dropping £1.3k on a new body that offers 5% increase in 'performance' over what I already have is going to increase my 'mad photography skillz'.
ymmv.
That's old thinking I'm afraid.No, from a performance perspective, bigger is better.
That's old thinking I'm afraid.
Not everyone wants a ff sensor.As APSC advancements are made so are FF, same gen smaller sensor wont match same gen and most of the time previous gen FF. Depends on wether that matters to the user or not.
That's old thinking I'm afraid.
Really? Can you point me in the direction of a current gen apsc outperforming a current ff sensor? I'm afraid..... you can't.
Not everyone wants a ff sensor.
Not everyone thinks they're better.
Many professional photographers shoot m4/3 or aps-c, I bet there are a few on here even
The XPRO2 is not for me, I'm waiting for the XE3 but its typical how this looking down on others seems to be a constant theme of the photography world. First it was the LF film shooters looking down on the MF film shooters looking down on the 35mm film shooters. Then we had film looking down on the digital. Now it seems its starting all over again.
If they offered better performance why don't all pros shoot with them. Why would they restrict their artist output by using a lower performance sensor.Hence my final comment in that quote. I know that. The fact is, they offer better performance, end of. It's up to the user Wether they require that or not.
Do it! I know you will and @simonblue
If they offered better performance why don't all pros shoot with them. Why would they restrict their artist output by using a lower performance sensor.
I asked a question firstOkay, please show me an apsc that outperforms a ff sensor, both current gen. Iso, dynamic range, megapixels etc.
I asked a question first