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Guy's i was looking to book a holiday after the recent announcement regarding lifting of restrictions. The holiday is from Newcastle Airport to a hotel in Tunisia we really want to visit again. It's end of June and my issue arises from the fact I'm in Scotland and not too sure how the cross border travel will be affected by that time. I can travel from Glasgow but the flights are only on a Monday and that would mean 3 weeks off for my wife (works Mon,Tues each week) instead of 2 weeks if we take the Friday flight from Newcastle.

I suppose my question is with Boris saying all legal restrictions will be lifted by then do you think I'll definitely be able to travel back to Scotland without isolating?
 
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F1.2 said:
Blimey , Brave man , You think it's all over because restrictions will be lifted ?
I am going nowhere until at least 2022
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i plan on getting a flight hopefully 1st july to crete to go to our house there for a few months but i wont be mixing with anyone except the wife.
brave man booking into a tourist trap
 
F1.2 said:
Blimey , Brave man , You think it's all over because restrictions will be lifted ?
I am going nowhere until at least 2022
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I wasn't expecting anything at all this year to be honest but if the vaccine is working as well as we're being led to believe then why not? My wife has been vaccinated and i should be by then.
 
Mr Bump said:
i plan on getting a flight hopefully 1st july to crete to go to our house there for a few months but i wont be mixing with anyone except the wife.
brave man booking into a tourist trap
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If we're vaccinated now though then what difference will it make whether we go this year or next? Just trying to weigh up the pros and cons.
 
I'm dubious that things will run smoothly this year, when most of the specialists are reckoning it'll take 'till at least January before there will be any certainty that things are under control. It's quite possible that by July incoming passengers will still need to spend 5 to 10 days in a Covid hotel.
 
scottduffy said:
It only says you need to provide a negative test before you travel.
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According to the foreign office:

New COVID-19 travel restrictions introduced by the Tunisian government on 1 February with all direct flights between the UK and Tunisia (and other countries where new strains of COVID-19 has been detected) suspended until further notice.
 
scottduffy said:
If we're vaccinated now though then what difference will it make whether we go this year or next? Just trying to weigh up the pros and cons.
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you do know that being vaccinated still means you can catch it just as easy?
it just means you MAY not get seriously ill with Covid and also shouldn't be as contagious.

Vaccination is not a shield against Covid.
 
Mr Bump said:
you do know that being vaccinated still means you can catch it just as easy?
it just means you MAY not get seriously ill with Covid and also shouldn't be as contagious.

Vaccination is not a shield against Covid.
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That’s actually not correct.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
That’s actually not correct.
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actually you are correct, I was incorrect you reduce your chance of getting infected (depends on how recent your vaccination and your age group) However the experts all agree its not 100% at all, opions suggest that between 21 days post vaccine and 3 months (before 2nd dose) you can be 70% ish protected.

Also worth noting Tunisia is yet to commence any vaccine program and admits itself the uptake will be very low.
 
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Mr Bump said:
However the experts all agree its not 100% at all, opions suggest that between 21 days post vaccine and 3 months (before 2nd dose) you can be 70% ish protected.
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I think that what was meant was that 70% of those given the vaccine will not react to the virus. I believe they also indicated that the remaining 30% may react to the virus.
 
First point is, you are talking about the end of June, are you guaranteed to have had both your vaccines by then ?
Can you afford to the £1750 quarantine and loss of earnings if you have to ?
Scotland hasn't finalised the exit plan will you be allowed to travel out of the UK

This is not going to make me popular but my opinion is that it's a selfish attitude, it's early days in the recovery and
do you or anyone else booking holidays want to take the risk of bringing infection back with you and sending the country back into lockdown?

I hope travel is restricted to the UK for a while after things are opened, I'm sure no one wants to go back into the situation
we are now once things ease
 
I see lots of furor being made about booking foreign holidays this year ,but no ones taking into account the rules of the countries they want to go to , will you be able once there to have a normal type of holiday , will shops,restuaraunts,clubs,pubs be open ..even access to beaches ,swimming pools .. and we as a nation are far ahead of most others in vaccine rollout .. hold your money and wait another year
 
the black fox said:
I see lots of furor being made about booking foreign holidays this year ,but no ones taking into account the rules of the countries they want to go to , will you be able once there to have a normal type of holiday , will shops,restuaraunts,clubs,pubs be open ..even access to beaches ,swimming pools .. and we as a nation are far ahead of most others in vaccine rollout .. hold your money and wait another year
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That’s the point I was making in post 2.
Even if I could fly to Alicante to catch up with all my friends, I wouldn’t be allowed to enter because the borders of the Comunidad Valenciana are closed. Let alone bars, restaurants etc.
 
I'm a very keen traveller and can't wait to get going, but this year its the UK for me.
Hopeful for somewhere in Northern/Central Europe come December or early 2022, but it depends on the overall situation.
Needs to be at the stage where a holiday would be enjoyable and not too many restrictions in place.
Won't even be looking until September or October to see how its going by then.
 
I have always loved to travel and have done so extensively, but now I use a wheelchair I've pretty much given up on the idea of foreign holidays and will probably never do so again.
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However, if I were able to do so I wouldn't anyway. I think it would be VERY irresponsible and would just add to the problems the world is having to deal with, just to go away for 'pleasure'.

Hundreds of thousands of people are dying unnecessarily and a high proportion of those because of people ignoring lockdown rules and guidance.

If all 'pleasure' travel had been stopped a year ago, the world wouldn't be in the mess it is today.

My neice works for the NHS and is on the 'front line' dealing with the death and heartbreak on a daily basis and putting her life at risk in doing so, and all you can think of is going on holiday. :mad: :banghead:
 
We could have gone on holiday later last year but no thanks, can't be doing with wearing a mask for hours.
We've already written off this year with regards to a holiday abroad.
No one knows what the score is with other countries when it come to proof of having been vaccinated.
Imho just sit back and have a little patience.
 
Alexander Boris de Pfeffer Johnson did not say that all restrictions will be lifted by June.
Each stage is 5 weeks long, 4 weeks to gather data and 1 week to decide if the next stage can go ahead as planned or if the existing stage has to be extended.
 
Most vaccines do not guarantee protecting everyone against the virus, although the effects may be far less than they otherwise would be. There is also the chance that someone who has had the vaccine and has a milder dose of the virus, could in fact pass it on.

www.bbc.com

Can you still transmit Covid-19 after vaccination?

There's no evidence that any of the current Covid-19 vaccines can completely stop people from being infected – and this has implications for our prospects of achieving herd immunity.
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I checked on Italy holidays for September this morning, more out of curiosity to see how prices compered to last years cancelled trip, if we go anywhere it will be booked much later in the year when travel restrictions or not are much clearer, at the moment just hoping for another nice summer to get out in the car more than 5 miles from home.
 
Just booked Crete for September. Obviously can change it if need be. I’d like to go away in June too but probably unlikely. I’ll have had the vaccination by then and the Greek islands have always had very low rates so fingers crossed. Also got a trip to Germany booked in December which was moved from last year. The travel industry in this country and the tourist industry in Greece needs supporting so hopefully it will work out.
Holiday places in July and August in this country are going to be rammed.
 
I am looking forward to 2 weeks in July self catering in Nairn (nr Inverness) as a launchpad and seeing a lot more of scotland... 100% money back if cancel by end of june.... thats a safe holiday to book i think

Fingers crossed for 2022 and 2 weeks in Innsbruck:) fingers very crossed
 
Mr Bump said:
i plan on getting a flight hopefully 1st july to crete to go to our house there for a few months but i wont be mixing with anyone except the wife.
brave man booking into a tourist trap
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Is that you and the wife in a plane on your own or with 100's of others ?
 
Ricardodaforce said:
According to the foreign office:

New COVID-19 travel restrictions introduced by the Tunisian government on 1 February with all direct flights between the UK and Tunisia (and other countries where new strains of COVID-19 has been detected) suspended until further notice.
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Why would they be selling holidays then if they can't fly there? Strange.
 
Mr Bump said:
you do know that being vaccinated still means you can catch it just as easy?
it just means you MAY not get seriously ill with Covid and also shouldn't be as contagious.

Vaccination is not a shield against Covid.
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It's never going away though, well not in the near future so if the results from Scotland's trials are anything to go by over 90% success rate is a decent return. We have to move on at some point.
 
Gremlin said:
First point is, you are talking about the end of June, are you guaranteed to have had both your vaccines by then ?
Can you afford to the £1750 quarantine and loss of earnings if you have to ?
Scotland hasn't finalised the exit plan will you be allowed to travel out of the UK

This is not going to make me popular but my opinion is that it's a selfish attitude, it's early days in the recovery and
do you or anyone else booking holidays want to take the risk of bringing infection back with you and sending the country back into lockdown?

I hope travel is restricted to the UK for a while after things are opened, I'm sure no one wants to go back into the situation
we are now once things ease
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These are the points I'm weighing up.
 
the black fox said:
I see lots of furor being made about booking foreign holidays this year ,but no ones taking into account the rules of the countries they want to go to , will you be able once there to have a normal type of holiday , will shops,restuaraunts,clubs,pubs be open ..even access to beaches ,swimming pools .. and we as a nation are far ahead of most others in vaccine rollout .. hold your money and wait another year
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Again this is at the forefront of my mind.
 
Sky said:
I have always loved to travel and have done so extensively, but now I use a wheelchair I've pretty much given up on the idea of foreign holidays and will probably never do so again.
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However, if I were able to do so I wouldn't anyway. I think it would be VERY irresponsible and would just add to the problems the world is having to deal with, just to go away for 'pleasure'.

Hundreds of thousands of people are dying unnecessarily and a high proportion of those because of people ignoring lockdown rules and guidance.

If all 'pleasure' travel had been stopped a year ago, the world wouldn't be in the mess it is today.

My neice works for the NHS and is on the 'front line' dealing with the death and heartbreak on a daily basis and putting her life at risk in doing so, and all you can think of is going on holiday. :mad: :banghead:
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I think you'll find more people died due to this Governments handling of the pandemic rather than people ignoring restrictions. I have stuck to the restrictions as closely as possible and when we're being told they are all going then i don't think it's irresponsible to travel for pleasure. If it was a big risk it should still be banned. As soon as i can have a normal holiday i will as long as it's allowed and we've been vaccinated.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Because they are hoping that by the time the flight happens the restrictions will have been lifted.
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They’d rather have some money in the bank, even for a short time before refunding, than doing no business at all.
 
Covid: South Africa variant surge probably due to person travelling from Africa - BBC News

So all those people that whined about my thoughts on varants read on.....


Twenty-three cases of the South African variant were detected in the care home - 13 staff and 10 residents.
Six of the 10 residents infected had received one dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine two or more weeks before their positive test date.
One of the 13 infected staff had a single Pfizer vaccine dose two or more weeks before their positive test.
 
Mr Bump said:
Covid: South Africa variant surge probably due to person travelling from Africa - BBC News

So all those people that whined about my thoughts on varants read on.....


Twenty-three cases of the South African variant were detected in the care home - 13 staff and 10 residents.
Six of the 10 residents infected had received one dose of the AstraZeneca vaccine two or more weeks before their positive test date.
One of the 13 infected staff had a single Pfizer vaccine dose two or more weeks before their positive test.
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I have yet to read the article......but were the vaccinated persons mentioned in the article showing signs of infection i.e. ill with Covid19 and/or based on the testing 'confirmed to be infectious'??? Or were they simply(?) based on the test found to be Covid19 positive?
 
We've just looked a Dorset week away in the summer. Fairly good return if cancelled too. Not in the idea place but we like more quiet holidays anyway.
 
Gremlin said:
First point is, you are talking about the end of June, are you guaranteed to have had both your vaccines by then ?
Can you afford to the £1750 quarantine and loss of earnings if you have to ?
Scotland hasn't finalised the exit plan will you be allowed to travel out of the UK

This is not going to make me popular but my opinion is that it's a selfish attitude, it's early days in the recovery and
do you or anyone else booking holidays want to take the risk of bringing infection back with you and sending the country back into lockdown?

I hope travel is restricted to the UK for a while after things are opened, I'm sure no one wants to go back into the situation
we are now once things ease
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I agree, actually. We're not there yet and other countries are even further behind. Book a staycation and air on the side of caution.
 
Suvv said:
Alexander Boris de Pfeffer Johnson did not say that all restrictions will be lifted by June.
Each stage is 5 weeks long, 4 weeks to gather data and 1 week to decide if the next stage can go ahead as planned or if the existing stage has to be extended.
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He also forgot to mention he's lifting restrictions till 7th May, then when he's convinced the gullible to vote Tory in the local election, he'll put us all back in tier 4 (apart from his dad and mates of course)
 
Box Brownie said:
I have yet to read the article......but were the vaccinated persons mentioned in the article showing signs of infection i.e. ill with Covid19 and/or based on the testing 'confirmed to be infectious'??? Or were they simply(?) based on the test found to be Covid19 positive?
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doesn't matter the simple facts are the new variants just go through our current vaccinations like butter just like i said, jus a matter of time before another mutation makes it a killer.
 
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