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Yes it is indeed a Sparrowhawk Keith.Well I think this is a Sparrowhawk but I do struggle with these and Kestrels when in flight. I think the Kestrel has more prominent spots on the upper wing.
It was zooming across the riverside fields where I walk the other day.
Panasonic G9 100-400mm and a very heavy crop on the JPeg.
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Thanks AlbyYes it is indeed a Sparrowhawk Keith.
Our garden Robin by Malcolm Fisher, on FlickrSomething I have been toying with for a long time - whether to buy the Pana 14-140mm MkII lens.
Just seen an excellent condition one for £350 but that's still a lot of money for me.
The reasons being the days when I want to travel fairly light for scenic projects and buildings, churchyards etc. The advantage of having the extra stretch over the 12-60mm could be very handy at times, also I'm thinking this could be a good insect close-up lens - enough working distance not to spook the bugs but much lighter and easier than the 100-400mm I lug around for that now.
The downside is this, I love having the big zoom with me and my first love is wildlife, so although I am sure I will enjoy the 14-140, realistically how much am I going to get from it for shelling out £350 precious pounds. Most of my scenic/structure days are of the nature where I can close in on subjects, so the 12-60mm does a fine job. How often will my photography really benefit from a 14-140mm.
Hmmmm ............
Something I have been toying with for a long time - whether to buy the Pana 14-140mm MkII lens.
Just seen an excellent condition one for £350 but that's still a lot of money for me.
The reasons being the days when I want to travel fairly light for scenic projects and buildings, churchyards etc. The advantage of having the extra stretch over the 12-60mm could be very handy at times, also I'm thinking this could be a good insect close-up lens - enough working distance not to spook the bugs but much lighter and easier than the 100-400mm I lug around for that now.
The downside is this, I love having the big zoom with me and my first love is wildlife, so although I am sure I will enjoy the 14-140, realistically how much am I going to get from it for shelling out £350 precious pounds. Most of my scenic/structure days are of the nature where I can close in on subjects, so the 12-60mm does a fine job. How often will my photography really benefit from a 14-140mm.
Hmmmm ............
I agree it is a good lens, and have suggested it in the past, they are very good, I have one, and they can be updated to give dual IOS, however it is lacking as an all round lens, as you say, you have to change lenses or have two bodies. I believe he still has his G80 so could use a 14-42 on that. It covers the range like that, but not at all convenientIf you are willing to change lenses I can recommend the cheap but IMO good Panasonic 45-150mm which can be found used for under £100. You might even be able to pick up that lens and a decent used body to mount it on to cut out the in the field lens changes for under £350.
I agree it is a good lens, and have suggested it in the past, they are very good, I have one, and they can be updated to give dual IOS, however it is lacking as an all round lens, as you say, you have to change lenses or have two bodies. I believe he still has his G80 so could use a 14-42 on that. It covers the range like that, but not at all convenient![]()
Yeah that's the thing though WW, 45mm at the short end means another lens for scenic trips and chopping and changing. Kinda tempted by the 14-140 for that 14mm scenic option and some decent zoom as a bonus, and practically the same size as the 12-60mm.If you are willing to change lenses I can recommend the cheap but IMO good Panasonic 45-150mm which can be found used for under £100. You might even be able to pick up that lens and a decent used body to mount it on to cut out the in the field lens changes for under £350.
I can see the logic there. I carried the two cameras today with 12-60mm plus 100-400mm, I don't mind lugging the weight and it covers pretty much all I ever need, however, on days when I'm not after wildlife options, the 14-140mm sounds very good for single camera + small bag days arounds buildings, street, scenic etc.Every day
it is about the same size as the 12-60, and lives on the G9 I use daily.
I use close up lenses on it (haven't seen any real loss of quality except in the very corners, which are usually cropped out anyway).
My son has an older Mk1 on his G80, and that lives on it too.
I didn't pay £350 for mine, but prices do seem high at the moment, must be summer
To me it is one of the essential 3 for general use, 7-14, 14-140 and 100-300. All three and the camera fit in a small bag and give a huge range.
Yeah that's the thing though WW, 45mm at the short end means another lens for scenic trips and chopping and changing. Kinda tempted by the 14-140 for that 14mm scenic option and some decent zoom as a bonus, and practically the same size as the 12-60mm.
I often pack the G80 with the short lens and the G9 with the 100-400mm on days out, I imagine the 14-140mm would give me full options if on the G80 instead. Plus a single lens for days out with one camera and one lens in a smaller bag.
In all honesty I think modern lenses are of such a high standard that anything that is considered on the good side of average would be more than enough for me, especially with the cameras we have today. I'm not somebody who inspects my images for perfection, or gets a bit fussy over little imperfections.For a one camera and lens combination in good light it does make sense on newer bodies if you'll be happy with the image quality it gives. I do remember that back in the days of shutter shock that lens was known to be affected but these days with cameras with the new shutter that shouldn't be an issue.
I am sort of tempted myself. The first review I Googled my way to described the image quality as being on "the good side of average" and that may well be good enough for a day out lens.
In all honesty I think modern lenses are of such a high standard that anything that is considered on the good side of average would be more than enough for me, especially with the cameras we have today. I'm not somebody who inspects my images for perfection, or gets a bit fussy over little imperfections.
I think the sensors and the cameras have something to do with it as well. All of my lenses do a good job on the G80, but they seem a little bit cleaner and sharper on the G9. There's very little in it though and not enough to bother me. Everyone goes on about getting good glass, and for good reasons, but better sensor tech and advanced cameras play a massive part too in my opinion.I think that about sums it up.
I don't think I would take much notice of a rating like that, sounds like someone writing a "clever sounding" review for payment without actually getting off his seat and doing any work
I find the lens to be very sharp in direct comparison with anything I have for the 5Diii, which agrees with reviews I have seen (the very sharp, not the comparison with Canon).






Fingers firmly crossedoh dear...
I do hope Panasonic stay interested in the camera equipment business.
oh dear...
I do hope Panasonic stay interested in the camera equipment business.
It looks as if there's a substantial amount of speculation in that. The reality may differ considerably.I wish I hadn't read that!
Judging by the comments the camera section isn't a problem, but there is a risk it could become a sacrificial lamb to reduce overheads and heal the wounds of poor business elsewhere. Let's hope it doesn't come to that, I love my Panasonic cameras and would hate to see them go.On a positive note Olympus went through difficulties but are still as far as I know making and selling cameras and lenses.
I had thought that Panasonic are just too big to run into trouble or exit the market but I suppose it is an ever shrinking market. I do hope that camera kit as we know it continues to exist in more or less the form it's in now.
I like the RF style Panasonic cameras and I have GM5, GX80 and GX9 but I gather that cameras in this style aren't made any more. I have the three so they should keep me going for quite a while but if they all died and if used ones looked unattractive due to age or whatever other reason I think rather than move to a SLR type MFT camera I'd sell off my lenses and just use my Sony FF.
Anyway. Hope it doesn't come to that.
Err, no. Olympus 'sold'* its camera division to JIP and everything is now labelled OM System. As this happened in 2021 I'm surprised you hadn't noticed.On a positive note Olympus went through difficulties but are still as far as I know making and selling cameras and lenses.
I had thought that Panasonic are just too big to run into trouble or exit the market but I suppose it is an ever shrinking market. I do hope that camera kit as we know it continues to exist in more or less the form it's in now.
I like the RF style Panasonic cameras and I have GM5, GX80 and GX9 but I gather that cameras in this style aren't made any more. I have the three so they should keep me going for quite a while but if they all died and if used ones looked unattractive due to age or whatever other reason I think rather than move to a SLR type MFT camera I'd sell off my lenses and just use my Sony FF.
Anyway. Hope it doesn't come to that.
Err, no. Olympus 'sold'* its camera division to JIP and everything is now labelled OM System. As this happened in 2021 I'm surprised you hadn't noticed.
*Where 'sold' means 'paid JIP to take it away'.
Could have got onto exposure bracket?My burst mode will only take 3 shots on the G9?
Fired off loads yesterday and I haven't played with any settings?
Bit of a long shot! ... Are you using the same SD card? A slow card and it might appear to slow up or stop after 3 shots.My burst mode will only take 3 shots on the G9?
Fired off loads yesterday and I haven't played with any settings?

Could have got onto exposure bracket?
Same cards folks, I'll swap them this afternoon in case one has developed a glitch but I can't really see that.Bit of a long shot! ... Are you using the same SD card? A slow card and it might appear to slow up or stop after 3 shots.![]()
Could have got onto exposure bracket?
That's what it was gents, although how on earth it was engaged is a mystery. I can only presume that the camera was accidentally switched on when put in the bag and when lifting out I entered the menus and made changes before realising the camera was on.Keith, in your Drive Modes, where you select Burst, you'll have Auto Brackets (as @Sangoma mentioned). That's got to be the answer.
Look at the sets of 3 shots taken, the same but different Exposure, Aperture or Focus?
That's what brackets are: shots, the number pre-set to 3, 5 or 7, the same but different.
That's what it was gents, although how on earth it was engaged is a mystery. I can only presume that the camera was accidentally switched on when put in the bag and when lifting out I entered the menus and made changes before realising the camera was on.
That on/off switch on the G9 is a pain, I can see why they changed it for the new model. Thanks for the help guys.
The 12-60 and 14-140 are both great.Hi folks, hope all is well.
I'm back in the M43s cameras but sticking with small bodies and small lenses to use more frequently than the big FF cameras.
I've got a GX80 and 20mm 1.7 that I'm having a lot of fun with and I'm planning on trading the GX880 I have for a GX9 tomorrow.
What small lenses would you recommend?
I'm thinking of sticking with small primes or compact zooms really. Keep the set up as small as possible.
As well as the 12-32mm kit lens, I use the 25mm f1.4 Leica, 42.5mm f1.7 Panasonic and 9-18mm Olympus on my GX80. All small enough to put in a jacket pocket and great results for not much size/weight penalty. I also have a 45-150mm Panasonic for when I want something longer.Hi folks, hope all is well.
I'm back in the M43s cameras but sticking with small bodies and small lenses to use more frequently than the big FF cameras.
I've got a GX80 and 20mm 1.7 that I'm having a lot of fun with and I'm planning on trading the GX880 I have for a GX9 tomorrow.
What small lenses would you recommend?
I'm thinking of sticking with small primes or compact zooms really. Keep the set up as small as possible.
The 12~32mm is tiny and very good, in my opinion.What small lenses would you recommend?