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I seriously doubt that the CPS is spending time debating whether to bring charges against someone accused of pinching someone on the bum,in the 70s, or similar.
I seriously doubt that the CPS is spending time debating whether to bring charges against someone accused of pinching someone on the bum,in the 70s, or similar.
But we hear/read this all the time - such a person is charged with sexual assault in a nightclub -'he slapped my arse as I was going past' (usually footballers but those are the ones we only find out about)
Is there a definition of what sexual assault is?
Nobody has answered my q about the accused, if found not guilty, being able to sue for ....well just about anything relating to their character etc.
Martyn D said:Didn't Lord McAlpine sue the person who made allegations about him and North Wales child abuse story
Martyn D said:Didn't Lord McAlpine sue the person who made allegations about him and North Wales child abuse story
tiler65 said:Nobody has answered my q about the accused, if found not guilty, being able to sue for ....well just about anything relating to their character etc.
I remember a case, which allegedly happened in the park opposite my studio.I've also lost count of the number of times women and young girls have complained of rape and subsequently it's turned out to be fear of an unwanted pregnancy, simply being late home, and sometimes sheer malevolence, so we're right to be concerned about cases like this one. We can only hope that in the end justice is done.
I remember a case, which allegedly happened in the park opposite my studio.
When I went over there with my dog there seemed to be half the West Yorkshire force there, spread out in a line searching.
Later, the police knocked on my door because I have CCTV. It seems that a 14 year old girl had claimed that 3 asian lads had gang raped her.
Hours of trawling my CCTV proved otherwise, and it turned out that she had met a boy over there, had consensual sex and then made up a story. It happens, often.
In a completely unrelated instance, whilst on honeymoon last year, the missus got completely wasted one night. The next morning she vaguely remembers leaving the bar but that was it. Technically speaking she did not consent to what happened when we got back to our room..... what does that make me?
An opportunist?
Certainly not rape anyway as rape means sex with a woman against her will and has to be achieved by either force, fear or fraud, none of which apply in your case so I think you'll be OK.
The whole thing is a huge ordeal even for a genuine rape victim with the medical examination and samples being taken. Finally when the case does get to court the defence will have raked up anything they can find in her background to discredit her, so women need a lot of courage and resolve to go the distance, and I've no doubt at all that many genuine rapes aren't dealt with because the victim would rather not face that ordeal.
You can be charged with and found guilty of rape if the person you are accused or raping is found to have been incapable though drink or drugs of consenting
I knew she'd had a few but she was coherent and still standing.
I knew she'd had a few but she was coherent and still standing,
there must be reasonably solid evidence of the case would never have got to court.
Sometimes all it needs is a public outcry or a push from the political masters above.
The other thing that needs bearing in mind is that in some of these cases the offences they were charged with weren't even an offence at the time they were committed, it was a very different era in the 60's & 70's, groping went on all the time and was done by both sexes
can you retrospectively be charged with an offence, if it was not illegal at the time? is that even possible?
Good point, sorry for leaving you off my list of potential 'slapped arse victims' who could give a view on whether they would consider it sexual.
perhaps it's just a case that at 37 my arse isn't as slappable as at 20 .
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(ie she pinched my arse and said " you've got such a cute bum" )
I wouldnt charecterise that as an assault although it could be considered sexual harrasment (and probably would be if the genders were reversed).
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I would perhaps mention that in my last place of employment i was touched up by a female colleague in what could be considered a sexually agressive way
(ie she pinched my arse and said " you've got such a cute bum" )
I wouldnt charecterise that as an assault although it could be considered sexual harrasment (and probably would be if the genders were reversed).
It would be followed with "and you've got such a cute face" . . . SMAAAACK !!!
it is nothing to do with reversing genders, sexual harassment is not gender specific
no - but can you really see a 6ft 4 , 15 stone bloke feeling sexually threatened by a 5ft nothing, size 8 girl pinching his bum and making a slightly inappropriate remark - reverse the roles and its easy to see how the girl could feel intimidated/threatened
There are plenty of shy men who would probably fit that description and would "die" if a woman even looked at them let alone pinched his bum or made a remark.
We had a woman at work who always used to ask one man in particular, to show her his nipples, he'd scuttle off embarrased with everyone else laughing at him.