Remote camera behind goal line support

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I am planning on putting a remote camera behind the goal line and I was wondering if anybody had recommendations for a tripod/support to hold the camera while on the ground, I have my normal tripod, but it does not go low enough for the look I am going for. Preferably I am looking for something that can take a full size body and a 16-35 or 24-70.

Thanks.
 
Can you invert the camera on the centre column and hang it underneath? Some tripods have this option. I see those gorilla pod things being used but I've never tried one.
My main concern would be the risk of theft, although thats going to depend on the venue.
 
I’ve got a Rollei mini tripod with sectioned legs. It’s very sturdy, but doesn’t look like it is still available. They do do other ones.
 
Seen so many different ways of doing this. One of the neatest solutions - by an Action Images tog - was a metal circular base with a short column protruding through it with a ball head on the top. Small cheap tripod does the trick for me when I want to use a goal remote.
 
DemiLion said:
Manfrotto Pixi
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1kg load? my camera weighs more than that ?....

I had a behind the goal tripod it was great until it broke.. threw it away and didnt recall what model it was.... got a gorrila pod which worked but i didnt like as much... left that at a grround a few weeks ago.. (accidently i didnt dislike it that much haha) ..grimsby i think :( Now need another... but not in a rush.. rarely use behing goals camera at league two grounds because of the space..
 
Not sure why people are recommending the Manfrotto Pixi? Its a little light weight device for small cameras, even the advert link states its for compact cameras.
It also states the maximum load is 1kg.

A full size Canon with a 16-35 is about 2kg

Plus its not a very stable device and will easily get blown over in the wind.

Instead you need to be looking at something like the Manfrotto 190Xpro, that is a proper solution and goes down to just 9cm
 
It would seem that there is room for a specialist bit of kit to use for this with perhaps a ground screw for security.
 
riddell said:
Not sure why people are recommending the Manfrotto Pixi? Its a little light weight device for small cameras, even the advert link states its for compact cameras.
It also states the maximum load is 1kg.

A full size Canon with a 16-35 is about 2kg

Plus its not a very stable device and will easily get blown over in the wind.

Instead you need to be looking at something like the Manfrotto 190Xpro, that is a proper solution and goes down to just 9cm
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It's absolutely fine with a 5d or 1dx on it - I've used it in 30 mph+ winds and there's never been a hint that it would blow over
 
Not sure if Rob Sambles in on here?

He's got some videos on YouTube for remote "behind goal" stuff for football and basketball.

HTH,

GC
 
riddell said:
Not sure why people are recommending the Manfrotto Pixi? Its a little light weight device for small cameras, even the advert link states its for compact cameras.
It also states the maximum load is 1kg.

A full size Canon with a 16-35 is about 2kg

Plus its not a very stable device and will easily get blown over in the wind.

Instead you need to be looking at something like the Manfrotto 190Xpro, that is a proper solution and goes down to just 9cm
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I use one with a 1DX and a 16-35mm f2.8 and it's never blown over once. The legs on the 190x would be spread out to 3 or 4 feet when it's at it's lowest so not too convenient as space behind the goal is often at a premium, also a bigger trip hazard.
 
admirable said:
I use one with a 1DX and a 16-35mm f2.8 and it's never blown over once. The legs on the 190x would be spread out to 3 or 4 feet when it's at it's lowest so not too convenient as space behind the goal is often at a premium, also a bigger trip hazard.
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Wouldnt it be a bit low? Even when i used the gorrilla pod.. at some grounds had to make it full height because of the slope behind the goals ?

I am NOT trying to trash the suggestion.. I am looking for answers before I buy :)
 
Thanks very much for the suggestions, my local camera shop has the pixi mini and pixi evo in stock so I will go and have a look at them tomorrow

swanseamale47 said:
Can you invert the camera on the centre column and hang it underneath? Some tripods have this option. I see those gorilla pod things being used but I've never tried one.
My main concern would be the risk of theft, although thats going to depend on the venue.
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Unfortunately the center column on my tripod is not cannot be inverted and even with the legs spread out the center column is still about 2 foot high.
 
KIPAX said:
Wouldnt it be a bit low? Even when i used the gorrilla pod.. at some grounds had to make it full height because of the slope behind the goals ?

I am NOT trying to trash the suggestion.. I am looking for answers before I buy :)
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That's when I'd use something like this https://www.amazon.co.uk/LESHP-Prof...518024501&sr=1-15&keywords=lightweight+tripod - Disclaimer - this isn't the actual one I use (there's loads of different makes of essentially the same design) - but I'll only use it if the pixi won't work because of drop off/slope right behind the goal
 
DemiLion said:
Wouldn't be allowed, for safety reasons if nothing else.
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It's not uncommon over here, it's attached to a post in an out of bounds area... what extra risk is there?

But if that is the case, then I would attach a ballhead to a scrap of plywood with a 3/8-16 screw (i.e. dirt cheap DIY ground pod). I guess that assumes you have scrap plywood and a spare/suitable head around like I do...
 
DemiLion said:
I think I can see what the problem with the Pixi is now. The wrong product was linked to. It should be this one:

https://www.parkcameras.com/p/9370055R/mini-tripods/manfrotto/pixi-evo-2-section-mini-tripod-red

which is more than capable of supporting a 1d/xD series camera plus lens.,
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HAHA yeagh I picked up on this when you posted about needing the EVO .. the otiginal 17 quid one wasnt up to scratch IMHO . this seems better and has extendable legs as well as more than enough load :)
 
Using a PlatyPod myself.. chose this over Pixi as this also suits my basketball photography..
Definitely not cheap.. but had been looking something like this for a while.
 
I've often wondered, whats the rules for this? I'd have thought a proper sized tripod would be a safety hazard to the players possibly? How far back do you put them as the net seems to have a lot of slack when a ball hits.
Do you get any issue with triggers, channel interference, with other photographers cameras? Do you have them wifi connected so you can get instant access to the images to deliver or have to wait until after the match?
 
Byker28i said:
I've often wondered, whats the rules for this? I'd have thought a proper sized tripod would be a safety hazard to the players possibly? How far back do you put them as the net seems to have a lot of slack when a ball hits.
Do you get any issue with triggers, channel interference, with other photographers cameras? Do you have them wifi connected so you can get instant access to the images to deliver or have to wait until after the match?
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Most of the answer = common sense on the day :)

Size is short...never seen any rules but have a feeling you will gte told off with a full size tripod and never seen one used myself

You pull the net back to see how far it can go and put your gear a little further back..

Your controllers have channels ..the games i go to theres rarely more then a couple behing goals if that so make sure not on same channel.. personally i ahvent seen anyone witht the same equipemnt as mine so shouldnt clash

usable behind the goal shots are rare so personally i leave it there and if theers a goal and i think it might be a good one i might go grab the camera.. depends on circumstances.. if i am sat wiht other photogrpahers all rushing to get the shot away then leave until later.. if on a commision leave until later.... most of time look at HT and FT but if you think you got a great shot then go grab the camera

PS I onlt use behind the goals camera now and then.. not every match.. inf act rare as league two not much room most grounds ..
 
Cheers Kipax.

I once put one behind a goal in sunday league. Their shooting was so bad I saw my camera get hit with the ball and go flying twice, good job it was an old 400D with an old kit lens. It didn't last the second attack :D
 
Byker28i said:
Cheers Kipax.

I once put one behind a goal in sunday league. Their shooting was so bad I saw my camera get hit with the ball and go flying twice, good job it was an old 400D with an old kit lens. It didn't last the second attack :D
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haa yes always going to be a danger. you get players running behind the goals when celebrating.... ball boys messing about and i wont put one if its too close to the fans either.. nothing like a spilt brew on your gear.. or kids messing about ..

ANY gear is expensive gear if it gets damaged :(
 
KIPAX said:
Most of the answer = common sense on the day :)

Size is short...never seen any rules but have a feeling you will gte told off with a full size tripod and never seen one used myself

You pull the net back to see how far it can go and put your gear a little further back..

Your controllers have channels ..the games i go to theres rarely more then a couple behing goals if that so make sure not on same channel.. personally i ahvent seen anyone witht the same equipemnt as mine so shouldnt clash

usable behind the goal shots are rare so personally i leave it there and if theers a goal and i think it might be a good one i might go grab the camera.. depends on circumstances.. if i am sat wiht other photogrpahers all rushing to get the shot away then leave until later.. if on a commision leave until later.... most of time look at HT and FT but if you think you got a great shot then go grab the camera

PS I onlt use behind the goals camera now and then.. not every match.. inf act rare as league two not much room most grounds ..
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Only ground in Scotland's top division where there isn't room for a remote really is Tynecastle (Hearts' ground) - there it's a case of putting it up against ad boards at the front of the stand behind the goal - it would be easy for a fan to reach over and grab your camera in that situation (never seen it happen though) and there are stewards walking backward and forward in the camera's field of view for a fair bit of the match

Biggest problem I've found is groundsmen drenching the pitch with automatic sprinklers just before kick off and at half time - I've had my remote soaked a couple of times by that.

I've seen guys use full size tripods but obviously not extended.

Always nice to get a decent remote shot but as KIPAX says good ones are a rarity.
 
Needs must sometimes.. This is at Bradford city at the old away end which was empty as away fans now in seats along sideline... wouldn't have used the wall if fans had been in there :)

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LOL nice to see the old triggers I have. Absolutely bullet proof and huge range
 
Byker28i said:
LOL nice to see the old triggers I have. Absolutely bullet proof and huge range
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Used to use them, worked very well - still have a set kicking around somewhere - prefer Pocket Wizards but not because they are any more reliable - just prefer the way they are built
 
davidy233 said:
Used to use them, worked very well - still have a set kicking around somewhere - prefer Pocket Wizards but not because they are any more reliable - just prefer the way they are built
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Reliable? mine seem to work every time and from a good distance.. dont ever feel the need to go more expensive,.. these work perfectly for me:)
 
How about a benbo trekker 3. It will go as low as you like and is very versatile on slopey ground. They take a bit of getting used to, but they're very sturdy.
 
KIPAX said:
Reliable? mine seem to work every time and from a good distance.. dont ever feel the need to go more expensive,.. these work perfectly for me:)
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Naw - I meant that the Yongnuo ones are just as reliable - they never let me down - I just prefer the pocket wizard as they seem a bit more robust and I batter my kit at times
 
I tried the upmarket ETTL Yongnuo transmitters and couldn't get them to trigger, gone back to these. I have 6, so like the way I can trigger the shutter and remote flash guns at the same time
 
davidy233 said:
Naw - I meant that the Yongnuo ones are just as reliable - they never let me down - I just prefer the pocket wizard as they seem a bit more robust and I batter my kit at times
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Haa sorry I read it wrong :)
 
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