Blimey, step away from a thread for a couple of days and it's all go!
In my case, I don't shoot manual and have no interest in manual in real terms, I have my old ETRS Bronica for that.
As far as the A7ii goes, tried one in a proper camera shop yesterday and to be honest, I'm quite happy with what I see.... each to their own. I've had lots of Fuji cameras (X-Pro1, X-Pro2, X-E2, X-T1, X100, X100s, X100t, X100f) to name just a few (that's a bit embarrassing isn't it when I think about all those cameras and still searching) and to be honest, I'm much more sold on the feel of them than I am the files from them. I've really tried to love them, trust me! I had another B*****d child of a camera last year, the Nikon Df which everyone seems to slaughter and I really liked it (sometimes I think I like oddball choices for cameras!). In real terms I should have kept that and forgot all about Fuji, but hey once bitten, grass always greener etc. and in real terms it was too big/heavy for everyday shooting for me.
Anyway, I think the a7ii is a good starting point for trying out the Sony range, I've never really liked the aesthetic or feel of the Sony cameras I've had in hand before, but actually the a72 feels pretty good.
Budget wise, I can't push to an a7iiR or the new a7iii and in real terms I don't need 42MP of the a7iiR, but if I get on with it then who knows for the future.
So, thanks all for the input and please let's not fall out about it.
Now then, to find a good low mileage Sony a7ii