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It doesn't have the raised viewfinder of the a7 series so it slips in my bag easier.Is the A7c really that much smaller then?
It doesn't have the raised viewfinder of the a7 series so it slips in my bag easier.Is the A7c really that much smaller then?
Interested to see that breakdown across camera types. Sony cover a wider market across point and shoot, vlogging, APSc and full frame - in theory they should be up there as no.1 seller of cameras. Have to remind myself they are a mass producer of consumer electronics unlike other manufacturers who just make cameras. It’s a mass sales game for Sony. They have been far ahead of the game on mirrorless when other camera manufacturers tried to rely on keeping brand customers. But those have now caught up.
Sorry I don’t quite get your response. Not sneering at any company.Canon, Nikon, Panasonic and Olympus certainly make other stuff. Who's left? I dunno. Fuji? I don't know what they make. I do remember years ago on a forum I used to visit at the time some people thought Canon was an upstart electronics company who should stick to making photo copiers and leave cameras and lenses to Nikon.
I also remember from my computer days when Tate and Lyle made computers and good ones too and computer people looked aghast. Actually what they'd done was spotted a good product and backed the company, my point being that it's the product that matters and no company should be sneered at because they or a subsidiary make something else unrelated to photography
I went to replace an a9 with an A7c to have a smaller camera, but unless you specifically buy a very, very compact lens for it or have a bag/pocket that somehow fits that but not an a7 series camera, I'd struggle to recommend it specifically from a size point of view.Is the A7c really that much smaller then?
Agree - I bought one thinking it would be my carry around. But would have had to buy a set of smaller lenses. Muscle memory and not having the front control wheel did me.I went to replace an a9 with an A7c to have a smaller camera, but unless you specifically buy a very, very compact lens for it or have a bag/pocket that somehow fits that but not an a7 series camera, I'd struggle to recommend it specifically from a size point of view.
Moving to the viewfinder of the a7c was like going back to an old APS-C DSLR in terms of size (compared to my a9, which I imagine is not even huge by current standards), I did love the flippy screen though.
I bit the bullet, sold it on and bought an RX1RII in the end, now that I love.
I still sometimes consider the RX100 series, but I just know how picky I am with IQIf I want a pocket camera then I reach for my RX100vii.
Since moving to Sony 8 years ago, the a7c has been the longest and most used camera I've kept before upgrading.
With the Tamron 28-200 bolted on to it, it suits me perfectly.
Granted it doesn't do everything I need from a camera so that's where my a1 and RX100vii come into play.
A lot but not all of my work is tripod mounted so the viewfinder isn't a big problem to me.
My only bugbear is the lack of micro usb socket for remote shooting especially for timing incoming waves etc.
I don't think I've ever shot at 1/8000 so again that's not a problem for me.
I was in town yesterday with A7R5 and Tammy 28-75. Unusually for me, I wished for something smaller. In the past I’ve considered and rejected RX1R ii. Looking again…I still sometimes consider the RX100 series, but I just know how picky I am with IQ
I was in town yesterday with A7R5 and Tammy 28-75. Unusually for me, I wished for something smaller. In the past I’ve considered and rejected RX1R ii. Looking again…
I was in town yesterday with A7R5 and Tammy 28-75. Unusually for me, I wished for something smaller. In the past I’ve considered and rejected RX1R ii. Looking again…
You’re reading my mind again David..Leica Q variant is the obvious choice for you! (again!)
You’re reading my mind again David..
Not your mate with the 50Sii ?One of my friends has just chopped his GFX in for a Q2M - not sure thats a good move, time will tell
Not your mate with the 50Sii ?
I need to put the 35GM on the camera. Go walkabout and see how I feel. Always been happy to have this combination in the past.having used pretty much all (non-lieca/zeiss) compacts with a prime lens at this point they all don't feel anywhere near as responsive as Sony A7 bodies (3rd gen and above).
you'll have a better time with A7C+40mm prime or wait for A7Cr (even though I don't believe there'll be one)
Leica Q variant is the obvious choice for you! (again!)
The Q's a pretty big camera though, if you're happy with 35mm then the RX1 is much more compact.having used pretty much all (non-lieca/zeiss) compacts with a prime lens at this point they all don't feel anywhere near as responsive as Sony A7 bodies (3rd gen and above).
you'll have a better time with A7C+40mm prime or wait for A7Cr (even though I don't believe there'll be one)
I had a play with a RX1Rii and couldn't believe just how small it was, particularly compared to the Q2 which isn't that small. At the right used price I would be tempted (particularly if Sony ever make a mk3 version and used prices fall further).
The Q's a pretty big camera though, if you're happy with 35mm then the RX1 is much more compact.
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I did have a play with a Q in store, it's really well put together and feels proper quality but the ergonomics weren't for me. Of course I assume there's optional grips etc for it, but it's not a camera I'd ever consider so I've never looked into itToby, if you ever have the pleasure of shooting with that Leica Q lens, then you'd put up with the size difference, its in a different league. But of course you could spend weeks agonising over the choice, just like the 50mm Samyang v 50mm Sony F1.2 GM - at the end of the day IQ usually wins through.
I did have a play with a Q in store, it's really well put together and feels proper quality but the ergonomics weren't for me. Of course I assume there's optional grips etc for it, but it's not a camera I'd ever consider so I've never looked into it
Yes Leica Q is pretty big. Wouldn't even consider it a compact tbh.The Q's a pretty big camera though, if you're happy with 35mm then the RX1 is much more compact.
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I’m guessing they’ve ditched the RX1’s though as there’s not been a new release or even a rumour of one for quite some time.Yes Leica Q is pretty big. Wouldn't even consider it a compact tbh.
RX1RII is still within "compact" realms. It's based on the A7Rii platform. So not the most responsive of Sony bodies but it was the point that Sony started making breakthrough on eyeAF and tracking.
I’m guessing they’ve ditched the RX1’s though as there’s not been a new release or even a rumour of one for quite some time.
X100V fiasco has made even RX1RII very expensive, £1500 seems like a bargain price.I'm surprised an RX1RIII doesn't exist, especially if they wrapped it with a bit of silver to make it look retro AF from the a7III at least, slightly bigger battery, they'd maybe eat into that absolutely insane Fuji X100V market.
Got mine for £1500 from CEX of all places,
Sorry I don’t quite get your response. Not sneering at any company.
Have to remind myself they are a mass producer of consumer electronics unlike other manufacturers who just make cameras.
The Q's a pretty big camera though, if you're happy with 35mm then the RX1 is much more compact.
Samyang make noodlesSorry I don’t quite get your response. Not sneering at any company.
The quote was about Sony outselling Canon on camera units. I was making the point that Sony cover more bases with camera types as a consumer electronics company.
Canon make printers and scanners but I don’t think they make mass consumer electronics to the same scale as Sony (screens, games console etc). Sony also make components not mass consumer items as well.
Yes agree they manufacture other things and medical equipment - which is not about mass sales. Low unit high price, technical.
Olympus no longer make cameras - they sold that. Fuji have narrowed their market by sticking to APSc and medium format.
Point I was trying to make was that Sony should be number one camera sales at this stage in the game. They are producing as a consumer electronics company to the mass market that’s what they do. Their turnout in the market over the last 7 years or so across all models has been way bigger than any other “camera manufacturer”.
A6000, A6100, A6300, A6400, A6500, A6600, A6700
A7 (1 to 4). & A7c
A7r (1 to 5)
A7s
A9, A1
RX100 - (1 to 6)
ZV 1(1 & 2), ZV E1, E10
RX10 (1 to 4)
Not forgetting the video options
Probably missed a few as well.
Being in the Sony camp you have to be aware of their strategy if you suffer GAS like I do.
Samyang make noodles
A few hours out and my A7 and Pergear 35mm f1.4 came too.
Picnic in the rain.
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And then there was sunshine.
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I had a thought the other day, I used to take a lot of pictures with a 50mm at f5 so I could get a similar look from a 35mm at f3.5 (50/5=10mm, 35/3.5=10mm) so I decided to take more pictures at f3.5 when using a 35mm
Is it sharper with faster focus?
Always makes me smile the results you get when you put Samyang in Amazon search.Samyang make noodles
Just upgraded from my old Samdung.
Mine doesn’t have any numbers just says pour boiling water to the fill level.What are those numbers you talk about on a prime lens? Never heard of them.....
What are those numbers you talk about on a prime lens? Never heard of them.....
I don't know how you guys manage with your f1.2's.
After getting the Syoptic f1.1, f1.2 just doesn't cut it for me any more
The trip of my life was probably my last trip to Kazakhstan with my 5D and 50mm f1.4. The light there even indoors was just so much better than any I've seen before and I do keep thinking back to those days with that 50mm f1.4. I did use it at f1.4 but a lot of the time it was at f5 and I just thought giving 35mm a go with a 10mm aperture might be interesting. I'll report back
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