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will be interesting to see if Nikon are prepping something thats going to compete also. once they sort out the autofocus im sure they will have something really appealing too.
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We all know that 8k is just a attention grabbing headline.
For 99% of people it’s useless and in realistic.
On the storage side I saw one reviewer mention a 1tb cf fast card is £800 and even that isn’t going to get you more than 30min of footage.
When 90% of all media is consumed on a mobile even 4K isn’t really needed.
We all know when twist changes camera/ brand the new one becomes god’s gift to the camera world and the last becomes redundant and scrap.. no one screams from the rafters more.
For 99% of people it’s useless and in realistic.
On the storage side I saw one reviewer mention a 1tb cf fast card is £800 and even that isn’t going to get you more than 30min of footage.
When 90% of all media is consumed on a mobile even 4K isn’t really needed.
We all know when twist changes camera/ brand the new one becomes god’s gift to the camera world and the last becomes redundant and scrap.. no one screams from the rafters more.
People said exactly the same thing about 4K, now most of us have 4K TVs, 4K+ monitors and GPUs capable of running games and entertainment services in 4K. Most streaming services also offer 4K. Shooting at 8K is not just about streaming in 8K, its like saying a high MP still camera is useless, because the advantages are similar.
Its only a matter of time before 8K is the next norm, at the moment it will serve the upper end, like content creators who provide entertainment.
We all know you have nothing to usually offer except misinformation and finger pointing and the odd stupid comment like your last addition. Im not singing the RP is better than the A7iii or my A9 and Ive said many times they are the best cameras I have used but they cost much more. Couldve been Canon, Nikon, Sony who brought out the next interesting camera and I still wouldve been talking about it.
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Hopefully they are able to compete with Sony and Canons announcements. Dont think they can take losing much more business.Got a bit messy in here, will be interesting to see what happens when Nikon launch their 2 new cameras and a fleet of new lenses next month.
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They look pretty good on paper anyway.
I want a 50 1.2 and would have had to have bought a canon body to use it, but I am gonna hold of until Nikon's new offering is available to compare.
That would be very wise, youre going to spend a fortune. Will you run 2 systems?
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Interesting, seems they are also looking at an incremental update to the Z6/Z7, shame they couldnt get any more out of the old ones via FW, current users might be a little miffed.
Nikon Z5
Interesting, seems they are also looking at an incremental update to the Z6/Z7, shame they couldnt get any more out of the old ones via FW, current users might be a little miffed.
Nikon Z5
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- The Z5 will have the same EVF as the Z6
- No top panel LCD
- Dual SD UHS-II memory card slots
- 24MP full-frame sensor (not sure BSI or not)
- IBIS
- Magnesium alloy camera body
- 1m dots LCD screen resolution
- New battery: Nikon EN-EL15c (already registered online)
- USB-C camera powering, not just charging
- Same AF system as in the Z6
- 1.7x video crop in 4k, no SloMo option
- 6fps burst
- Official announcement expected in the second half of July (I have conflicting reports on the exact date)
- The camera will start shipping later this year
- Slightly smaller than the Z6
- The modes dial is moved to where the top LCD screen is on the Z6/Z7
- The price is not confirmed yet, but it should be between the Z50 ($856.95) and the Z6 ($1,796.95) - my guess is around $1,400 with the Nikkor Z 24-50mm f/4-6.3 kit lens.
- Previously reported here
- Incremental update to the current Z6/Z7 models
- Same sensor as in the Z6/Z7
- Dual EXPEED processor
- Nikon EN-EL15c battery (already registered online)
- USB power
- Dual memory card slots (I assume dual CFexpress, but I am not sure)
- 4K 60 video
- Vertical grip with buttons/controls (available as an optional accessory)
- Expected announcement: later this year (around October) of course everything can be further delayed
- The Nikon Z8/NikonZ9 (it could be just one camera) is rumored to be a new 60MP mirrorless camera that will be able to shoot full-resolution images at 14fps (mechanical shutter) with AE/AF.
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Yeah whatever I go with for the 50 1.2 will only be used for that one lens I won't be buying any other lenses etc.
Nice, you must really love a 50mm 1.2!
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I think Ross Harvey did that with the EF 50/1.2 at least early on.
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Have never had one but always wanted one.
I always wanted that lens and the 85 1.2. Maybe they will drop in price when RF becomes more established.
Most new tv are 4K but still most people I know don’t own one. Maybe the tech people on here do but most aren’t that interested in tech or have 1k to buy a decent 4K tv.
It’s the same with HDR only half the new TVs claim to have it and only half that do are are capable of it.. but it’s a great marketing and selling point to the masses who have no clue.
I saw someone post on a fb photography group asking which to buy R5 or R6 as they wanted to upgrade so they could take more video in 4/8k and wanted the newest..this was followed by I’m not sure what the difference between 20mp and 40mp actually ment [emoji23]
Canon mom togs will be buying in droves, so I’m sure it will sell well regardless.
Except for high end production(movie/tv) most social media as I said is watched on a phone or even laptop, neither of which can do 8k never mind 4K.
It will be years before 8k becomes close to norm. 4K shows still only make up a tiny percentage of those produced and streamed via Netflix or amazon, bbc is a handful of things a year if your lucky.
I understand things need to progress but the fact they have pushed 8k video specs over stills seems abit strange, I know they are trying to take back the crown they had with the 5d2.
Literary since the announcement all you have done is post r5 specs in this thread and compared how much greater it is than any other camera.
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He liked it because particularly shooting sunset, into the light, it has a particular characteristic that he loved so it was only used for that purpose.
i’d be inclined to do the same...except 35/50/85... like I have with the Fuji. Got to have a Canon 35mm. The EF Mount one is amazing.
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Im not sure your assumption about people owning 4K TVs is correct, they are not that expensive and most TVs released recently have 4K because it is becoming a normal feature along with more streaming providers offering it. Why does someone have to be interested in tech to enjoy watching a good movie on a decent tv?
I wasnt talking about social media consumption, I said from the beginning its for high end production where the quality and options in post production will take advantage of the resolution and file size / quality in post.
You might consume your media in 1080p but that doesnt mean it wasnt shot in 4K, 4K downsampled offers a better 1080P image, it also offers cropping and more data to work with. They can also release the content in 4K to people who will take advantage of the quality. The same will apply to 8K.
A phone screen is tiny in comparison to a tv, it doesnt need 4K because the PPI is high. That changes the bigger the screen gets.
I said the animal eye AF looks better and it appears to work on all animals not just dogs and cats, are you disagreeing? Or do you just not like the discussion and comparing of other brands and features, its a gear thread, people will talk about the competition whether you like it or not.
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I have fallen out of love with 35mm, finding it a bit of a boring focal length at the moment.
Have no interest in an 85 1.2 either, I consider that to be a specialist portrait lens and I would rather use a 135mm.
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I noticed, you are a 24/50/135 person. I’m more in the middle.
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A7III isn't any good either.
I haven't used A9 a huge lot for animal eyeAF, only the human one.
I found both okay with my cats at close distance facing the camera, but nowhere near as good as Sonys human Eye AF. What body/s are you shooting at the moment?
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just the A7RIV now. eye AF doesn't work well with birds even static ones. Neither did my A7RIII.
Its not a massive problem per say but knowing the eye is in critical focus all the time is really a great help.
Are you using the 200-600? I saw there was some chatter about the combo not working well, did they fix it via FW?
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yes but mine works just fine, no issues here. No they haven't fixed anything. They haven't even properly acknowledged it as an issue which is more worrying.
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I think in the near future the question “what camera is that?” might have some weight! If the answer is “5D2”, then “man, you got some skills getting that bird in flight in perfect focus”, if it’s R5, then “good camera that!” will be the response. Lol
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I go through stages of preferring one set up over another usually after using a particular set up for a while give it another couple of months and I will probably be back in the 35/85 camp.
Weird how its only effecting a few though. Maybe its a lens or body mount issue so cant be fixed with FW.
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@twist told me he is waiting on the A7 mk4 and will switch back
Who knows, the MK3 was the camera I owned the longest and used the most out of all my cameras, so the the MK4 should be pretty stunning.
We're going to get an additional TV soon, and it will be 4k simply because if you go with the main manufacturers all the options for a 40" or up TV are 4k.
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I want...
Update EVF and LCD (better touch screen please, Jesus Christ, what year is this?)
Dual UHS-II slots…
Improve AF (like the A9)
Electronic up to 20fps I guess, everyone is at it
More pixels may be? 30mp? Not really a priority.
GPS would be good but probably not space for that, it will always refer to the app.
Lit up AF points!!!
Not sure about video, don’t really bothered.
Update EVF and LCD (better touch screen please, Jesus Christ, what year is this?)
Dual UHS-II slots…
Improve AF (like the A9)
Electronic up to 20fps I guess, everyone is at it
More pixels may be? 30mp? Not really a priority.
GPS would be good but probably not space for that, it will always refer to the app.
Lit up AF points!!!
Not sure about video, don’t really bothered.
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I've never been so disinterested in new camera bodies. I guess I'm happy where I am. I've not watched a single video on the new canons and I don't think I could care much less. It's a strange feeling as I've always craved the latest and greatest. This may all change with a A7IV though...
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what the point of 20fps electronic if you can't use it for shooting sports?
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I don’t know, ask Canon?
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well you seem to be wanting it
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well considering the lens works fine on all other bodies and also a good number of A7RIV bodies I imagine the issue is with the body.
though tbh I think A7RIV isn't as reliable as A7RIII was in general. It works fine for most part but has some odd behaviours like suddenly loses focus etc which even dpreview folks have faced.
I think the issue is they the higher MP i.e. more data but they decided to use the same old processor.
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Eye AF works on Bettyor they might do
I still see no firmware update for the A7RIV, animal eye-AF is non-existent on this for all practical purposes.
I think Sony’s eye-AF was only for dogs and cats anyway, but Canon’s seems to work with everything AND from a greater distance. I have no idea how this all works, but being as Nikon introduced it as a firmware update it makes me think it’s likely more firmware than hardware in which case Sony ‘may’ be able to improve it on current bodies,..... if they want to.
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I can picture a year ago when Sony announced/showcase animal eye-AF and the world was going Wowwwwww, the Canon engineers must have had a little giggle amongst themselves.
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