The Official Fuji X10/X20/X30/XF1/XQ1 Thread

My EF-20 flash arrived yesterday, tried the Honlphoto flash accessories this evening, except the snoot. Whilst not the best fit they are still usable and work.

Reflecter


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Honeycomb


IMG_0100 by Jonnydee9, on Flickr

Gels


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Just need to mess about getting used to the flash settings now.
 
nog said:
Review of X10, short review but they seem to like it

http://www.digital-photography-school.com/fujifilm-x10-review
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Blimey - they certainly did :)

Is this bit correct?
Go to Adv. mode and you can enjoy you enjoy the Motion Panorama function that operates in similar fashion to Sony’s approach by capturing the pano sections as you pan across the scene, then stitches them together internally. How about an 11,520×1080 pixel image? In 120, 180 and 360 degree span, left to right, up or down. Simply ‘mazing!
My panoramas seem to be standard size rather than humongous.
If it is correct, then how do I do turn it on?
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Oooo - where do you get those snazzy gels with velcro?
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I picked them up last year at the Focus show. All part of a Velcro on kit by Homlphoto.
 
DuncanDisorderly said:
Blimey - they certainly did :)

Is this bit correct?
Go to Adv. mode and you can enjoy you enjoy the Motion Panorama function that operates in similar fashion to Sony’s approach by capturing the pano sections as you pan across the scene, then stitches them together internally. How about an 11,520×1080 pixel image? In 120, 180 and 360 degree span, left to right, up or down. Simply ‘mazing!
My panoramas seem to be standard size rather than humongous.
If it is correct, then how do I do turn it on?
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Duncan, not sure (haven't got it at hand), but I'm assuming that if you hold the X10 vertically and pan 360, you'd end up with a huge bucket of pixels (luckily aligned rather neatly).
 
I've just ordered a refurb one from Fuji, should arrive at my office on Friday. Can't wait!
 
Tried a panorama holding the camera vertical and ended up with about 340 degree as I was not moving the camera quick enough 9600 X 1624. Excuse the snap, must get the washing in before Mrs is home, grass still too wet etc etc;)

DSCF2198 by dyrnog, on Flickr
 
nog said:
Tried a panorama holding the camera vertical and ended up with about 340 degree as I was not moving the camera quick enough 9600 X 1624. Excuse the snap, must get the washing in before Mrs is home, grass still too wet etc etc;)

DSCF2198 by dyrnog, on Flickr
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Thanks - very interesting....
Looks like it's me who needs to go and check what they are doing. I'm positive I wasn't making it up.
I'll be back at my photo library tomorrow.
 
Nipped out at lunch time as the weather here is nice. What a difference a few days have made.

Just generally had a bit of a play about with the depth of feild. These are jpegs outputs from the camera.

Was hard to see the screen though at low level and in the sun but you cannot have everything.



snowdrop by Jonnydee9, on Flickr




crocus by Jonnydee9, on Flickr
 
jondc said:
Nipped out at lunch time as the weather here is nice. What a difference a few days have made.

Just generally had a bit of a play about with the depth of feild. These are jpegs outputs from the camera.

Was hard to see the screen though at low level and in the sun but you cannot have everything.



snowdrop by Jonnydee9, on Flickr




crocus by Jonnydee9, on Flickr
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Not bad for a compact:)
Lovely day there as well I see
 
Duncan it is your fault ---- (:lol:) ---- that I've also just placed an order.
 
As that advert said I'm loving it (My X10). Another in camera jpeg from today.
Dont worry I'll get bored soon. :help:


Smisby_Church by Jonnydee9, on Flickr
 
This has been a great thread with lots of fantastic input thanks to Duncan and other enthusiasts so thanks for that.

I was one of the earlier purchasers of the X10 but due to work (and massive DIY) commitments I've not yet used it extensively.

Last weekend however I dropped in on my parents to find them making Pizzas with some of the young ones and immediately returned to the car to grab the X10.

Light in the kitchen was good with a decent picture window and light walls and If I'd been thinking I would have chosen 160 or 200 iso and aperture priority with maximum aperture set. I wasn't however thinking and I shot in P mode, my walk about setting for the DSLR, and used 400 iso. The camera was set to save raw files which were later processed in Lightroom 3.6.

Horrible noisy images with bacteria-like noise infesting the entire image even when viewed at 30% or so. After a little noise reduction and a tad of sharpening much of the noise dissapeared but the skin tones were terribly smeared, most discouraging.

The x10 performed brilliantly on the day, I didn't miss a shot, focus and shot to shot time were fast, unlike the new Canon G1X which, following in the G series tradition was too slow to catch the antics of the company dog during an SWPP try out in a Local park recently. The lens is sharp from corner to corner, the image stabiliser works brilliantly - I've never been averse to a little subject movement blur in reportage stuff but the noise, it was deafening!

Should I have shot Jpegs? The X10 certainly seems to prioritize them and lightroom works very well with jpegs although the limited bit depth will restrict adjustments of course. My first shots with the x10 were jpegs of course, ACR 6.6 hadn't been released and silkypix is to me at least, unusable.

I love the camera, it's portability, it's large apertures and the slightly OOF backgrounds that lend depth to images that no other compact I've owned could equal.

DC resource has almost written off the IQ of the X10, DP review is holding offf, giving Fuji a chance, I suspect to get things sorted, but that said IQ is not everything in my photography but the Pizza party pics were unaceptable.

Anyone got the jpeg /raw/ noise thing sorted yet?

Maybe I could have reduced the resolution? - very happy with 6 megapixels.
 
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phototuition said:
This has been a great thread with lots of fantastic input thanks to Duncan and other enthusiasts so thanks for that.

I was one of the earlier purchasers of the X10 but due to work (and massive DIY) commitments I've not yet used it extensively.

Last weekend however I dropped in on my parents to find them making Pizzas with some of the young ones and immediately returned to the car to grab the X10.

Light in the kitchen was good with a decent picture window and light walls and If I'd been thinking I would have chosen 160 or 200 iso and aperture priority with maximum aperture set. I wasn't however thinking and I shot in P mode, my walk about setting for the DSLR, and used 400 iso. The camera was set to save raw files which were later processed in Lightroom 3.6.

Horrible noisy images with bacteria-like noise infesting the entire image even when viewed at 30% or so. After a little noise reduction and a tad of sharpening much of the noise dissapeared but the skin tones were terribly smeared, most discouraging.

The x10 performed brilliantly on the day, I didn't miss a shot, focus and shot to shot time were fast, unlike the new Canon G1X which, following in the G series tradition was too slow to catch the antics of the company dog during an SWPP try out in a Local park recently. The lens is sharp from corner to corner, the image stabiliser works brilliantly - I've never been averse to a little subject movement blur in reportage stuff but the noise, it was deafening!

Should I have shot Jpegs? The X10 certainly seems to prioritize them and lightroom works very well with jpegs although the limited bit depth will restrict adjustments of course. My first shots with the x10 were jpegs of course, ACR 6.6 hadn't been released and silkypix is to me at least, unusable.

I love the camera, it's portability, it's large apertures and the slightly OOF backgrounds that lend depth to images that no other compact I've owned could equal.

DC resource has almost written off the IQ of the X10, DP review is holding offf, giving Fuji a chance, I suspect to get things sorted, but that said IQ is not everything in my photography but the Pizza party pics were unaceptable.

Anyone got the jpeg /raw/ noise thing sorted yet?

Maybe I could have reduced the resolution? - very happy with 6 megapixels.
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Hmm - when pixel peeping, technique is everything.
To expect 100% crop to look good is unreasonable (unless using laboratory controlled conditions (which DPReview have so far failed to demonstrate))
I know from my 5DII that images viewed at 100% can look absolutely shocking but produce wonderful A3 prints.
Same is true for the X10 (but not quite as extreme as the big Canon).

I'd like to see a 100% crop one of your images that you were struggling with - and more importantly, your reactions to an A4 print of the same image - please keep the meta data intact.
I bet the pixel peeping gurus round here will be quick to highlight if it's a technique problem or an X10 problem.

Last weekend I used the X10 as the only wide angle lens I carried with me during 2000+ shots at an indoor festival. Every shot was taken in crap light and pushed all three bodies to their extremes.
Even the 5DII ended up f1.4, ISO 800 and still struggling for shutter speed.
So far I've produced 20 A4 prints from the three cameras including the X10.
Looking at the prints only I know which were taken with which camera, you cannot tell looking at the print.

As an aside....
My personal opinion is that the LR3 processed RAW are superior, provided you are prepared to put in the effort to get the result.
The JPEGs straight out the camera are 90% as good as the extensively reworked RAW and zero effort.

Please can you illustrate the problems you had - ta....
 
Well my Refurbished X10 from the Fujishop arrived today and if it did not have a refurbished sticker on the box you would think it was brand new. Everything came in sealed packaging and there are no marks or anything on the lens or the body.

Its currently charging at the moment as I have a meeting in Manchester tommorow so after that think I will take some shots. Not had chance to read the manual yet so should I just put it in auto mode or is there a better setting to use for buildings and candids in the city?
 
Thanks Duncan, perhaps I'm being a bit harsh looking at the pix now, I spent very little time editing them but my initial shock was at seeing the luminance noise the likes of which I've not seen before.

I'm an experienced compact lover my previous affairs of note being with the Fuji F10 or other, Canon G9, and most recently panny LX5 which produced terrific results but was too slow and lacked a viewfinder.

I'll stick with raw as you suggest and refine my technique a little, I'll add a full size image when I have a mo but meantime the pix can be seen at 1500 wide at
http://phototuition.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/every-picture-tells-the-story/
 
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Just noticed the price has gone down again for the Fujishop Refurbs now £323.99 +postage using code P10FEB15.
 
i was set on the Ganon G1 X, and just waiting for it to come out, but on seeing this, i'm not so sure now!!

It does look a nice piece of kit.

Decisions, Decisions!
 
scott1979 said:
i was set on the Ganon G1 X
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I am sure that the G1 X will perform well and I did consider that as an option but the price put me off. Would love to have a play with one though.

Not sure on the design of the G1 X either but thats form over function.
 
phototuition said:
Thanks Duncan, perhaps I'm being a bit harsh looking at the pix now, I spent very little time editing them but my initial shock was at seeing the luminance noise the likes of which I've not seen before.

I'm an experienced compact lover my previous affairs of note being with the Fuji F10 or other, Canon G9, and most recently panny LX5 which produced terrific results but was too slow and lacked a viewfinder.

I'll stick with raw as you suggest and refine my technique a little, I'll add a full size image when I have a mo but meantime the pix can be seen at 1500 wide at
http://phototuition.wordpress.com/2012/02/23/every-picture-tells-the-story/
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Just looked at your link - and you are definitely being too harsh :thumbs:
It may be down to your PP, but you have to look darned hard for noise. I didn't find any that detracts from the overall image.

The lighting is very contrasty, the exposures seem spot on.
Was that camera metering or have you upped the exposure in PP?
I've found that increasing the exposure in PP increases the noise to the point where it can be noticed.
This is exactly the same for the 5DII where to keep the low noise levels when viewed at 100%, you have to get the exposure bob on at capture.

Edited to add - Very nice set of images that. Captures the moment splendidly. I bet they are really chuffed with them.
 
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Thanks Duncan, yes because of the harsh light I did shoot them a little on the dark side to try and retain some of the highlight detail where the sun was bursting through. As I may have mentioned before I tend to expose to the right to avoid noise and will experiment with some nicely exposed shots in lower light. If I'd shot these as a job I'd have screened the outside light a little or bounced some flash inside to balance things up a little.

I'l try and shoot another picture story very soon.
 
I did it! Just came back from my local shop where I couldn't resist picking one up. :D

Thanks to everybody - especially Duncan :thumbs: - for giving the little cam such a good forum. Looking forward to a first testing this weekend.

The big test will be in two weeks time when I'm in Venice for a few days.

Off to studying the "extensive" manual now...
 
meruby said:
I did it! Just came back from my local shop where I couldn't resist picking one up. :D

Thanks to everybody - especially Duncan :thumbs: - for giving the little cam such a good forum. Looking forward to a first testing this weekend.

The big test will be in two weeks time when I'm in Venice for a few days.

Off to studying the "extensive" manual now...
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Enjoy :thumbs:
 
Here's a set taken in truly appalling light.
The X10 was severely pushed to take these but I doubt the 5DII would have done much better (with an equivalent zoom lens).
I'm not going to explain what was going on, but I will admit to a substantial hangover the next day.
Seventeen images from this set have been printed at 6"x4" and proudly adorn the establishment's wall.

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That was a darned good evening :D:D:D
 
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I said I'd share a few X10 images from the recent festival.
Remember I was only using the X10 for wide angle shots, the 60D was on the 70-200 and the 5DII was on the 50mm f1.4 for capturing movement in low light.

The first set shows how useful the X10's panorama mode was to me.
Quite a few other photographers looked over my shoulder, saw me taking them and were asking lots of questions about what kind of camera it was etc. They were very complimentary as they were struggling taking straight shots never mind something as advanced as a panorama.

1) Workshop in a round room. Probably the most difficult venue to photograph. This shot taken at 24mm is one of the better straight shots, but it's not as good as the panorama.
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2) Panorama taken seconds after the straight shot above. 120degrees, straight out the camera. Prrrrrfect :)
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3) Panorama of the cinema venue. Shots with the crowd in are always the most viewed images in a festival gallery and the organisers always ask for them. X10 has done a decent job here as that light was awful!
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4) Straight shot from the side of the venue.
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5) Panorama taken at the same time. They are both good, but the panorama format offers many more opportunities when being laid out in next years programme.
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6) And now for something weird! During this panorama the stage lighting was cycling through the whole colour spectrum. It's an interesting glimpse into how panorama mode works.
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Here's a few conventional wide angle shots from the festival.

7) Always worth trying something slightly different. Also, this format leaves plenty of room for text.
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8) Errrm
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9) That stage again.
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10) Slide Guitar workshop tutor.
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11) Ceilidh caller in action.
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12) No English festival is complete without a short break for a bit of Morris.
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Most of my festival images were taken on the two DSLRs; including my most memorable images from the festival weekend.
However, the X10 did exactly what I was hoping for by providing wide angle shots with enough quality for web use and use in next year's programme.
The panorama mode exceeded my expectations in how effective it would be capturing indoor crowd scenes. At future festivals I'll be taking the X10 with me even when one of my DSLRs is fitted with a wide angle zoom lens.
 
Some nice shots there Duncan, I really like the one with the multicoloured lighting, it's nice to see that where combined the red, green and blue have made white.
 
bastic said:
Anyone compared x10 to x100?
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X100 looks lush, but I never seriously thought about getting one because I value the versatility of a zoom lens on a smallish camera.

If I'm going for the inconvenience of a prime lens, then I'll take the 5DII with 24 TSE II in a heartbeat.
It's an incredible combination and there is no way a small camera is going to come anywhere near to it's image quality or tilt/shift tricks.
 
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