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I did do a search to see if this topic has been done before, but no threads came up with the heading Snowflake Generation. But if it has already been done, I do apologise.

Taken from Wikipediea: Generation Snowflake, or Snowflake Generation, is a neologistic term used to characterize the young adults of the 2010s as being more prone to taking offence and less resilient than previous generations, or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own. The term is considered derogatory. It is one of several informal examples of usage of the word snowflake to refer to people.

I am posting this in a light hearted manner, and not meant to be offensive. It makes me and the missus chuckle, so I thought I would post it.

The missus keeps getting photos and video clips of family and friends, who are much younger than us. The latest one was a family member who cut her husband's hair. All the comments the video clip has got, you would have thought she had just carried out a medical procedure. Wow, amazing, well done, etc etc. Another person, posted a video of themselves doing a bit of dusting/ cleaning, and all the comments the video got.

All these things that people who we know are doing, and the comments of praise they are getting, we do find it funny. Why me and the missus do find it amusing, is because we did all this home hair cutting and other such mundane chores way back in the day, was because it was expected of you to get such things done. Besides, we had no money to pay for such things

We do know things are not good at the moment, but way back in the day when we had real hardship. Growing up with no gas or electricity because you had no money to pay for such things. Forget about hoarding toilet rolls, you had to make to with waste paper, if you found any.

This is posted in fun and devilment, I would not wish such hardship on our youngsters of today.;)


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This is more about being stuck at home and making do. NOT about the current health problem!

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I have edited the thread title from snowflake, is it could be seen as offensive.
 
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It's a term often used by the older generation to try and belittle the younger generation, whilst the irony of the fact that they're the ones offended by something the younger generation are doing whistles over their heads.
 
We never had gas or electricity, we had to live in coal shed at bottom of t'garden, someone else's garden at that
 
The missus would cut my hair if she was able to, but being disabled she can't. But there again, I don't have much hair left, so I shave what little there is. :)
 
You knew someone who had a garden and you lived in a coal shed!
Where we lived only posh people had coal sheds. We saw a garden once but we didn't know what it was.
In fact we were so poor when we lived we weren't even alive.

Dave
 
jonbeeza said:
I did do a search to see if this topic has been done before, but no threads came up with the heading Snowflake Generation. But if it has already been done, I do apologise.

Taken from Wikipediea: Generation Snowflake, or Snowflake Generation, is a neologistic term used to characterize the young adults of the 2010s as being more prone to taking offence and less resilient than previous generations, or as being too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views that challenge their own. The term is considered derogatory. It is one of several informal examples of usage of the word snowflake to refer to people.

I am posting this in a light hearted manner, and not meant to be offensive. It makes me and the missus chuckle, so I thought I would post it.

The missus keeps getting photos and video clips of family and friends, who are much younger than us. The latest one was a family member who cut her husband's hair. All the comments the video clip has got, you would have thought she had just carried out a medical procedure. Wow, amazing, well done, etc etc. Another person, posted a video of themselves doing a bit of dusting/ cleaning, and all the comments the video got.

All these things that people who we know are doing, and the comments of praise they are getting, we do find it funny. Why me and the missus do find it amusing, is because we did all this home hair cutting and other such mundane chores way back in the day, was because it was expected of you to get such things done. Besides, we had no money to pay for such things

We do know things are not good at the moment, but way back in the day when we had real hardship. Growing up with no gas or electricity because you had no money to pay for such things. Forget about hoarding toilet rolls, you had to make to with waste paper, if you found any.

This is posted in fun and devilment, I would not wish such hardship on our youngsters of today.;)


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This is more about being stuck at home and making do. NOT about the current health problem!
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I know what you mean but this thread was only going to get one reaction on here.

Its social media in all forms. A sort of parallel universe.
CB radio was very similar. The ability to talk to strangers but people talking crap because they want to be "in" but have little to say.
(This post itself will get a predictable response.)
 
Cockney said:
I know what you mean but this thread was only going to get one reaction on here.

Its social media in all forms. A sort of parallel universe.
CB radio was very similar. The ability to talk to strangers but people talking crap because they want to be "in" but have little to say.
(This post itself will get a predictable response.)
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We did have a CB radio back in the 70s, but nothing much of interest to talk about. Soon got fed up of it. It was mainly used by truckers, to warn of speed traps etc.
 
Tringa said:
You knew someone who had a garden and you lived in a coal shed!
Where we lived only posh people had coal sheds. We saw a garden once but we didn't know what it was.
In fact we were so poor when we lived we weren't even alive.

Dave
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:LOL: No that's good that. I was trying to think of a witty retort, but no need to bother now; it's done.

The term 'snowflake' seemed to come to prominence being used by right-wingers (such as Trump and BloJo/Farrage fans) against 'liberals' or 'lefties' who objected to the racism, sexism, homophobia etc that many right wingers seem to think is ok. It's popularity was boosted by it's use in right wing media. Such terms are designed to label, undermine and silence those who someone is opposed to. The irony is of course, that like snowflakes themselves, such right wingers often melt when the heat is directed at them, such as when they're challenged on their views. In a political sense, it amuses me that the term quite accurately describes those who first intended it as a slur against others.

'Woke' is another one, isn't it? I'm sure there are others. Thing is, there already exists many terms to describe the kind of people who seek to attack the ideas of greater equality, individual freedom and openness. 'Idiots', 'Morons', 'Fascists' and many others. Bless. It can't be easy, trying to think things up when you're so preoccupied with immigrunts trying to steal ur jaab...
 
The ' snowflake ' term, is used predominantly by ' Gammons ' with an inferiority complex.
 
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I know what you mean but this thread was only going to get one reaction on here.)
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I have posted this in fun and not to be taken too seriously, I hope no one takes offence. I certainly don't want it to cause arguments or anything. :)
 
KitsuneAndy said:
It's a term often used by the older generation to try and belittle the younger generation, whilst the irony of the fact that they're the ones offended by something the younger generation are doing whistles over their heads.
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I don't think it's necessarily an age thing but I'm phased by the over the head of the creaking older people comment which seems be at odds with what I understand snow flaking to be. I'd agree with the Wiki definition although I'd argue that being a snowflake isn't something that only younger people can be.
 
mex said:
The ' snowflake ' term, is used predominantly by ' Gammons ' with an inferiority complex.
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From Wikipedia.

"Gammon is a pejorative popularised in British political culture since around 2012. In 2018, it became particularly known as a term to describe middle-aged white men, either on the political right or who supported Brexit.The term refers in particular, to the colour of such a person's flushed face, especially when expressing their strong opinions, as compared to the type of pork of the same name. There has been considerable debate over whether the term is racist."

That is not me then. :)

Maybe I should change the Snowflake title.
 
Makes me laugh when Gammons get all het up about it being a potentially 'racist' term. Bloody snowflakes...
 
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Should I change the title from Snowflake generation?

from Wikipedia:
"The term snowflake generation is considered derogatory"

Should I just change it to, the younger generation?

I don't really want this thread to cause offence to anyone.
 
AZ6 said:
Makes me laugh when Gammons get all het up about it being a potentially 'racist' term. Bloody snowflakes...
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Gammon is imo clearly racist and I wouldn't use it. It's also clearly facile. A young non european female socialist couldn't possibly be in favor of Brexit :D

And to be equally racist I could say it's a term mostly used by entitled white university educated metropolitans to denigrate those annoying thick racist working class townie northerners who keep voting the wrong way no matter how many times we tell them how to vote.

I don't see snowflake as being racist. Anyone can be a snowflake.
 
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I have edited the title of the thread from snowflake, to the younger generation. As I would not want it to be seen as offensive, and the whole thread could go off in the wrong direction. (y)
 
woof woof said:
Gammon is imo clearly racist and I wouldn't use it. It's also clearly facile. A young non european female socialist couldn't possibly be in favor of Brexit :D

And to be equally racist I could say it's a term mostly used by entitled white university educated metropolitans to denigrate those annoying thick racist working class townie northerners who keep voting the wrong way no matter how many times we tell them how to vote.

I don't see snowflake as being racist. Anyone can be a snowflake.
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I have changed the title of the thread, otherwise things will go off in the wrong direction, and arguments will start. Things can go off in the wrong direction so easily on this forum, next thing is, the whole thread gets locked. :)
 
jonbeeza said:
We do know things are not good at the moment, but way back in the day when we had real hardship. Growing up with no gas or electricity because you had no money to pay for such things. Forget about hoarding toilet rolls, you had to make to with waste paper, if you found any.
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I remember my parents talking about the days when everyone left their doors open, partly as there was nothing to pinch as all they had if they were lucky was a few pieces of furniture. My parents wedding present was a bedside lamp shaped like a ship. These days it'd be dismissed as worthless tat but in those days it was very probably a prized possession. Thinking about that makes me thankful for what I/we have today.

Then I see the youngsters in the family having a melt down because the console game shop is shut today :D
 
badlywornroy said:
Jon, the only way you will not offend anyone on any forum, on any subject is not post anything. :mad:
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I think this forum has changed a little over the years. Many times I have started a thread to only re think things, and end up not starting it. :)
 
jonbeeza said:
I have changed the title of the thread, otherwise things will go off in the wrong direction, and arguments will start. Things can go off in the wrong direction so easily on this forum, next thing is, the whole thread gets locked. :)
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I didn't mean to cause any offence or argument but I do find things such as "gammon" unacceptable. They'd certainly be unacceptable if aimed at any other group other than aging white men. I do find it interesting that in my experience those using pejorative terms against aging white men (who vote the wrong way) are usually white themselves.
 
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woof woof said:
I remember my parents talking about the days when everyone left their doors open, partly as there was nothing to pinch as all they had if they were lucky was a few pieces of furniture. My parents wedding present was a bedside lamp shaped like a ship. These days it'd be dismissed as worthless tat but in those days it was very probably a prized possession. Thinking about that makes me thankful for what I/we have today.

Then I see the youngsters in the family having a melt down because the console game shop is shut today :D
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Me and the missus are from the age when we had nothing, and sitting in the garden sipping a cup of tea was a treat. Our kids and grandkids are struggling with it all, as they live fast lives, and they are normally dashing about with all their functions and events.
 
You see, most of you are relating to the younger generation. You are using terms like snowflake or gammon.

Language and the use of words evolves, people have always tried to put people into groups. Those that don't fit in have always been derided. And those names have then been applied to people we don't like.
 
What got me thinking all of this, was when a family member announced she was going to cut her husband's hair. It got me thinking, are things easier now? As I said earlier, I am not really talking about the current problems, but lifestyles in general.
 
woof woof said:
Gammon is imo clearly racist and I wouldn't use it
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Hmm. This is a very interesting debate, for sure. But 'racist'? I think that's debatable, especially when considered in the context of social power structures. 'Gammon', whilst obviously referencing a person's appearance, is more to do with attitudes and ideals, than it is to do with colour or race. It's very complex. I spose you can get brown and black 'gammons'. I certainly know a few...

woof woof said:
And to be equally racist I could say it's a term mostly used by entitled white university educated metropolitans to denigrate those annoying thick racist working class townie northerners who keep voting the wrong way no matter how many times we tell them how to vote.
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That's down to culture then, nothing to do with race. And whilst it involves social and political power structures, it's very different from racism..


woof woof said:
I do find it interesting that in my experience those using pejorative terms against aging white men (who vote the wrong way) are usually white themselves.
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This is why I don't see it as a 'racist' term at all. Because it's not referencing racial 'otherness'.


jonbeeza said:
Me and the missus are from the age when we had nothing, and sitting in the garden sipping a cup of tea was a treat.
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A cup of tea???? :eek: Luxury! You were lucky!
 
jonbeeza said:
Me and the missus are from the age when we had nothing, and sitting in the garden sipping a cup of tea was a treat. Our kids and grandkids are struggling with it all, as they live fast lives, and they are normally dashing about with all their functions and events.
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I can't say that the kids in my family have fast lives as they appear to spend most of their time staring at oblong electronic boxes.

The thing that worries me most is that they don't seem to be doing anything mind or experience enhancing as they very mostly seem to play very simple platform games that a toddler could master or watch idiots hurt themselves or do mundane tasks in less than 60 seconds. Less mind enhancing than mind numbing, IMO.
 
munch said:
You see, most of you are relating to the younger generation. You are using terms like snowflake or gammon.

Language and the use of words evolves, people have always tried to put people into groups. Those that don't fit in have always been derided. And those names have then been applied to people we don't like.
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My grand daughter who is an adult, put me in the old fart category. But she always says it with devilment, and always when we are having a laugh and joke. :)
 
For many of us the younger generation or current gen, are our kids. We can always teach them our old fashioned ways and nag them with tales of 'way back when' - but then we turn into our parents

According to this: https://www.careerplanner.com/Career-Articles/Generations.cfm I'm between Gen X and Xennial so still a spring chicken to many on here :LOL:
 
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woof woof said:
I can't say that the kids in my family have fast lives as they appear to spend most of their time staring at oblong electronic boxes.

The thing that worries me most is that they don't seem to be doing anything mind or experience enhancing as they very mostly seem to play very simple platform games that a toddler could master or watch idiots hurt themselves or do mundane tasks in less than 60 seconds. Less mind enhancing than mind numbing, IMO.
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Some of ours are members of dancing troupes and darts teams, and various other things. So they are normally going off around the country attended these events. So they are finding it hard, being stuck at home.
 
AZ6 said:
Hmm. This is a very interesting debate, for sure. But 'racist'? I think that's debatable, especially when considered in the context of social power structures. 'Gammon', whilst obviously referencing a person's appearance, is more to do with attitudes and ideals, than it is to do with colour or race. It's very complex. I spose you can get brown and black 'gammons'. I certainly know a few...
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Gammon as it seems to be defined clearly singles out one race and gender in negative targeting and that has to be wrong. People don't necessarily come in such easily defined types and I do find Gammon facile. In the context of power don't forget that many Gammons are working class underprivileged and disadvantaged.

AZ6 said:
That's down to culture then, nothing to do with race. And whilst it involves social and political power structures, it's very different from racism..
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No, it's racist as I targeted one ethnic group, whites.

AZ6 said:
This is why I don't see it as a 'racist' term at all. Because it's not referencing racial 'otherness'.
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It is racist. It's just odd that some use racist terms to denigrate others of the same race but this isn't unique to white people and of course under the new enlightened way of deciding these things I have the right to decide if anyone else is being racist.
 
IMO the reasons youngsters come up with new words is because they're mostly too lazy to look up the meaning of any existing words.

Of course there's poor education, dyslexia or just plain old thick and ignorant to blame too.

After all, a thesaurus was a dinosaur wasn't it?

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Sky said:
IMO the reasons youngsters come up with new words is because they're mostly too lazy to look up the meaning of any existing words.

Of course there's poor education, dyslexia or just plain old thick and ignorant to blame too.

After all, a thesaurus was a dinosaur wasn't it?

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One thing that's worrying is that meanings and acceptability change over time. That's always happened but innocently using a now politically unacceptable phrase (which may be acceptable in a few years time) these days can literally ruin your life.
 
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Sky said:
IMO the reasons youngsters come up with new words is because they're mostly too lazy to look up the meaning of any existing words.

Of course there's poor education, dyslexia or just plain old thick and ignorant to blame too.

After all, a thesaurus was a dinosaur wasn't it?

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Isn't a Theosaurus a dinosaur who believes in god(s)?
 
Not forgetting the old 'puddin' basin' as well as 'short back and sides' done with manual clippers - army style. Good old dad - not. ;)
 
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