Zone System

[myotis]

OK, Barney/Wayne, OP just means the thread starter It's not a derogatory term

Unfortunately John Blakemore's Workshop book is now rather expensive.

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It's a superb book but it was extremely poorly marketed by the publisher, I bought 2 copies when it was remaindered, £5 a copy.

The other book

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Can still be bought new, £395 from Dewi Lewis, £95 secondhand is a bargain. The paperback listed is an entirely different book.

Ian

I have the Arts Council book, but would like both these books as well :-(

 

[Barney]

I visited the library yesterday, they do not get in book requests anymore as it costs a tenner to get them in and only charge out three fifty. I should have known when the book categories were not in alphabetical order, I had a good moan but ended up thinking I was "out of touch". The library was 50% of what I remember, now its half full of computers and bored people trying to be helpful with a good sprinkling of people watching other people to make sure they are doing it right.

 

[Barney]

OK, Barney/Wayne, OP just means the thread starter It's not a derogatory term

Unfortunately John Blakemore's Workshop book is now rather expensive.

View attachment 484601

It's a superb book but it was extremely poorly marketed by the publisher, I bought 2 copies when it was remaindered, £5 a copy.

The other book

View attachment 484602

Can still be bought new, £395 from Dewi Lewis, £95 secondhand is a bargain. The paperback listed is an entirely different book.

Ian

OK Ian, it just struck me as odd and rude when only last week I spent a whole day at your house and were on first name terms.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

If you want to peg tones to reality, just use an incident light meter. Works every time.
If you want to favour shadows or highlights you can just move exposure by one stop increments.
Any exposure system is only about sliding the exposure up and down the characteristic curve.
Development is mostly about changing the angle of the straight line portion of the curve to match the required contrast.
The full zone system assumes that you are processing individual sheets of film not complete rolls at once.

 

[Barney]

If you want to peg tones to reality, just use an incident light meter. Works every time.
If you want to favour shadows or highlights you can just move exposure by one stop increments.
Any exposure system is only about sliding the exposure up and down the characteristic curve.
Development is mostly about changing the angle of the straight line portion of the curve to match the required contrast.
The full zone system assumes that you are processing individual sheets of film not complete rolls at once.

HEllo Terry,

If I practice on MF but select a certain part of each scene to "zone seven" for instance, will all the roll be developed the same for that point and the other zones fall where they will ?

 

[myotis]

If you want to peg tones to reality, just use an incident light meter. Works every time.
If you want to favour shadows or highlights you can just move exposure by one stop increments.
Any exposure system is only about sliding the exposure up and down the characteristic curve.
Development is mostly about changing the angle of the straight line portion of the curve to match the required contrast.
The full zone system assumes that you are processing individual sheets of film not complete rolls at once.

And as discussed before, using medium format cameras with magazines where the film from different magazines are given different development times..