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So if I reduce my overtime that'll mean an army of immigrants will take it over? Err no.
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To be fair that is what Tijuana was saying....as in no that will not happen.
So if I reduce my overtime that'll mean an army of immigrants will take it over? Err no.
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I'm quite lucky that at my age i probably won't see the total ruin of this country under the weight of the EU !
I wonder how many Brits left the UK to skank off another EU country when we joined, I can't imagine Poland having a British immigrant problem
The thing is, people will never (hardly ever) read a 51 page report, and that includes meI'm intrigued, how many of you have actually read the paper? It's here for anyone that is desperate to talk about it but actually never bothered to read it. http://www.cream-migration.org/files/FiscalEJ.pdf
If you are on low wage unless you work overtime you have the same issue as Scotland mentioned ie food banksNo you didn't mention minimum wage thst was me.
I think that's more down to the lack of new gps personally. Funnily enough we're after doctors from the eu to fill the gaps..
No offence to your friend but relying on overtime as a regular source of income is quite foolish.
Make no mistake you are welcome here by me I would never suggest some kind of reprateration of those here now what does concern me is that the numbers must slow down while the schools hospitals roads catch upDamn I was late to this party. Then again I was working hard and late as an immigrant contributing my 25% of total contributions to this country without the right to vote.
Very true.Don't feel to bad about no right to vote many who have the vote are so disillusioned by Westminster they don't bother anyway.
As opposed to the implied racism in your previous post/s?
Damn I was late to this party. Then again I was working hard and late as an immigrant contributing my 25% of total contributions to this country without the right to vote.
Let's twist again, like we did last summer..
genuine question - do you retain the right to vote wherever you are from ? (asuming of course that you come from a democratic state and not dneipner republic or something), do british expats still have a vote in uk ellections ?
No I don't as I don't reside there. Residency is what counts in my home country not citizenship.genuine question - do you retain the right to vote wherever you are from ? (asuming of course that you come from a democratic state and not dneipner republic or something), do british expats still have a vote in uk ellections ?
Not confusing them at all.
There are apparently (!) 100000 legals according to the data above. (!)
I bet a large percent of that 2.2 million departing is retirement related so no jobs under threat as suchMy whole point is that economically we've done well out of EU immigration and the whole "They've come to steal our jobs" argument is utterly flawed because it seems like 2.2 million Brits have stolen their jobs!
the last paragraph is bang on right, well said.I assumed not, I haven't voted in the 5 years or so since I emigrated, but on reading up, it appears you can vote for up to 15 years after emigrating! Pretty strange if you ask me. I voted in the local elections here in Germany a couple of months after arriving...Hong Kong...well, not much voting going on there
On the topic of immigration, those people that like to froth themself up in outrage at how the UK is this and that, really need to get out and experience life in different parts of the world. Countries that do have second and third class citizens, capital/corporal punishment, outrageously expensive/exclusive healthcare, endemic racism, real poverty etc.
On the topic of immigration, those people that like to froth themself up in outrage at how the UK is this and that, really need to get out and experience life in different parts of the world. Countries that do have second and third class citizens, capital/corporal punishment, outrageously expensive/exclusive healthcare, endemic racism, real poverty etc.
Whilst I agree that that it is a wonderful place here, it shouldn't stop us to strive and become even better. Just because it is worse elsewhere doesn't mean we sit on our laurels.No it means you might change your mind about how "bad" things are in the UK when you look at how things are in other countries. Thanks to my day job I've been to many countries. I even worked in the US for a while when I was younger. Had the opportunity to stay there too. Despite many thing I love about the US I chose to come back to the UK because whilst I'd get paid a lot more over there, the quality of life I thought was better here.
But after you see people literally queuing up for jobs, working long long hours and barely seeing their own family for very little pay. What happens is that you start to appreciate even more that the UK isn't such a bad place after all and in fact, it's actually quite good!
I agree the UK is a nice place to live, and I assume that's why so many people flock here.What happens is that you start to appreciate even more that the UK isn't such a bad place after all and in fact, it's actually quite good!
YepWhilst I agree that that it is a wonderful place here, it shouldn't stop us to strive and become even better. Just because it is worse elsewhere doesn't mean we sit on our laurels.
Whilst I agree that that it is a wonderful place here, it shouldn't stop us to strive and become even better. Just because it is worse elsewhere doesn't mean we sit on our laurels.
The simple fact of the matter is that our native population is getting older. No-one disputes that. So if we want the govt of tomorrow to be able to pay our pensions then we do need MORE immigration of younger educated people to get jobs and pay taxes. Otherwise the numbers just don't stack up.
The man in the street will always re-act to what ever affects him, his family and possibly friends too.
This is "how" he see's it. No matter what any report says.
Steve do you even know what an Asylum Seeker is? I think not, because there is no such thing as an illegal asylum seeker.
Read. Educate yourself.
http://www.unhcr.org.uk/about-us/the-uk-and-asylum.html
The population is expanding rapidly...
Our population is getting bigger, our land space no bigger and there's a huge glut of people that do come here that do nothing over than claim benefits.
- Leaving the EU doesn't do anything to stop illegal immigration
- EU immigration isn't anywhere near as bad once you factor in how many brits have also moved out
- (Legal) immigrants are far less likely to claim benefits and can't do so anyway until they're habitually resident
Two things;Thats why people come miles here to seek asylum, will stop at nothing to get here (illegally). For a self starter (like yourself) the UK is a land of oppertunity etc and I am all for enterprise and hard work, but there comes a point where we simply cannot cope. Our population is getting bigger, our land space no bigger and there's a huge glut of people that do come here that do nothing over than claim benefits.
I guess the difference in opinion is how do we look after and protect what we have.
Do we:
a) Pull up the drawbridge one way because we don't like Johnny Foreigner with his funny sounding degree take a job in good old blighty (But I assume it's OK for Johnny English to go take a job in France right?)
b) Continue to be part of the EU where economically it is proven time & time again that the benefits far outweigh costs?
The simple fact of the matter is that our native population is getting older. No-one disputes that. So if we want the govt of tomorrow to be able to pay our pensions then we do need MORE immigration of younger educated people to get jobs and pay taxes. Otherwise the numbers just don't stack up.
I'd understand the logitics of a French, Irish, Swedish person seeking asylum here, .....
What I find curious is,That's such a myth peddled by the Daily Mail & UKIP.
What I find curious is,
I've never read the daily mail in my life,
(nor another newspaper in many years)
I have no political allegiance to any party whatsoever.
I wouldn't trust a single politician any further than I could throw them.
And yet when any of these types of discussions occur
someone will always attack the Daily mail and / or UKIP
The old adage of attack is the best for of defence often rings true in many of life's situations.
So without knowing anything of the Daily Mail
and very little about UKIP.
I'm beginning to wonder how much they print (Mail) What ever that is.
and how many of their policies (UKIP) are actually accurate?
1. It will. We can use more drastic measures currently deemed illegal by the EU to deal with illegal immigrants
2. We can reduce the number of EU migrants coming in. It will help get our own into work
3. Maybe, but we can fill vacancies with British unemployed people
4. The £1.7billion, we do not need to give the EU money of ours. Its the principle, British taxes should stay in Britain.
I'll add if i may number
5. How many Brits have left becuase Immigrants have arrived ??
I'm intrigued, how many of you have actually read the paper? It's here for anyone that is desperate to talk about it but actually never bothered to read it. http://www.cream-migration.org/files/FiscalEJ.pdf
A very valid point. I am considering leaving because of the way this country is heading. Just got to find a place thats willing to have me....States seem a good fit.