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Really? What crime would that be?
I believe you would be an "accessory after the fact".
Really? What crime would that be?
I believe you would be an "accessory after the fact".
I always thought people were just updating whether they received their orders, rather than boasting they bought something from HK. I think it's useful to know how many people receive their purchases so others can make an informed decision..
To answer the thread title: yes. My 70D arrived earlier today.
To answer the thread title: yes. My 70D arrived earlier today and over £100 cheaper than DigitalRev.
Don't presume there are only 1 or 2 who don't like tax evasion & the morality/lack of involved in it, but these issues need highlighting when they occur.
Anyone who knows what they're doing & decides to risk it, that's their decision, but in doing so & posting on a public forum, has to accept that not everyone agrees and some will ask questions.
There is no need for you, and a couple of others, to constantly harass posters by asking the same questions time after time. You have made your point repeatedly so why not give it a rest?
Isn't it in the Forum & Site Rules that you should not encourage "illegal activities"?
for some reason tax evasion doesn't count :shrug:.
it would stop you getting your back up about people supposedly evading tax. Just saying
It doesn't get my back up, people want to take the risk its their business,
If TP want to condone it, that's their business. Why would I try and tell TP what they should or shouldn't allow?.
Dave, you keep saying if people want to 'take a chance' that's up to them. What exactly is the chance you are referring to.
You know some of those also happen with UK companies too don't you?
I'm with Dave on this and reckon all the "chancers" are protesting too much.
It is unargueable that using a foreign based company to evade tax is illegal, however much you like to think it isn't.
.... just the same as walking into any shop picking something up and walking out without paying, if they want to do it, however wrong it may be, it's their choice, everyone has choices in life, it's not up to someone anyone else (apart from probably the law) to force their opinions on others,.......
You are taking a chance at getting caught (and being liable for the tax and duty, possibly even a fine if they decide you deliberately evaded the tax).
IF you get caught for tax and duty on arrival they can't fine you if you pay immediately as you haven't evaded duty. Then email the receipt to Panamoz and they will refund you. No chance taken there as you wont be out of pocket.
You take a chance that the item will never arrive (and if paid by bank transfer have no comeback to recover the cash).
In all these threads about Panamoz and the other HK companies how many have said they never received the item. I've not seen any posts saying that so the 'chance' will be slim. If paying by bank transfer you have no less of a chance than paying by bank transfer than any other country. Remember the Yorkshire Cameras scam that caught thousands of people and none of those have had any money returned.
You take a chance the HK retailer goes out of business either before you receive the item or afterwards (and the limited warranty goes out the window).
You are taking no more of a chance than you would with a UK company. Think Jessops, HMV, Comet and another large camera store whose name escapes me.
You take a chance that the product arrives damaged or develops a fault and you have to send the item to HK at your own expense and hope the retailer will honour their warranty and then return the item to you.
I had a fault develop on my Sigma 150-500 OS after 11 months. I contacted Panamoz and told them. They gave me a UK address to send the lens to and I had a brand new lens at my door only 11 days after I first contacted them. Their level of service has been excellent ever since I first placed an order with them. The parcels arrive in very quick time, often faster than an order from the UK, and are excellently packaged.
By "you", I just mean the buyer.
Like this
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=5813273#post5813273
posted lots within a quote so it can't be quoted.
The level of customer service from UK business Dave is often *****
you never watched Watchdog
I have had first hand experience of this with UK retailers such as comit and curry's
seems the HK companies are better to me from what I have read
Dave just remind me how SoGA and small claims court would work with comit for me
So you agree those chances are possible?
I keep dropping in here every couple of days only to find the same old argument going around and around in circles.
The world is changing, people buy and sell all over the world these days. It's not illegal.
If the HMRC wanted to collect duty and taxes from me, they had every opportunity.
If they did, I would have had it reimbursed by Panamoz.
Just a quick point, this is actually incorrect about HMRC "collecting". It is not illegal to import the goods. What is illegal is the importer (ie the purchaser in this case), not declaring the value of the goods and paying the appropriate fees. The legal burden rests on the buyer and not the person sending.
All imports come into the country via Customs. Couriers like DHL will collect duty and taxes on behalf of HMRC.
And it is the importers (the purchasers) job to report them if they are not picked up. It is what you legally should be doing. There are no weasel words or ways out of this. If you don't you are breaking the law. A personal choice but still law breaking all the same.
Or possibly their companies time whilst they surf the netThis should be made into a sticky and then all you good people won't have to waste anymore of your valuable time on it.
Or possibly their companies time whilst they surf the net