I suppose it was inevitable given that people are switching to mirrorless but it will still be a sad time for many 5D users.
You are probally correct in saying that many 5d series owners will not be sad as many will move to mirrorless in the future. However I am not yet sold on the advantages of mirrorless. When the option to jump from Film to Digital came along I jumped at it and never looked back. The thought of not have having to wait days on seeing how the developing went at the local chemist or having to post the small jiffy bags with my slide film was a great relief. For me, so far, the supposed advantages on now jumping to mirrorless seems like equating Colour tv to adding HD, as you still end up with a digital RAW or JPEG file with either a DLSR or Mirrorless body. Film cameras to digital was like jumping from B&W tv to colour tv. Everyone was trying to do the latter, but the majority of photographers I know are currently sticking with DSLR's for now. Of course that may change with advancements and lower prices, but there was an awful lot of sad people when Canon announced there would not be a 7D3 and I suspect this might be the same.Even if it were a fact rather than a rumour, I fail to see why a 5D4 owner like myself would be sad. I am not sitting here waiting for a 5D5; I am more than happy with the 5D4 spec. I will almost certainly move to mirrorless next but have no idea what model or even brand I will buy or when.
Dave
Which begs the question: how many photographers do you know? The numbers tell us that digital camera sales have dropped from 121.46 million units in 2010 to 15.22 million units in 2019. (https://www.statista.com/statistics/264337/cipa-companies-shipments-of-digital-cameras-since-1999/)but the majority of photographers I know are currently sticking with DSLR's for now.
Which begs the question: how many photographers do you know? The numbers tell us that digital camera sales have dropped from 121.46 million units in 2010 to 15.22 million units in 2019. (https://www.statista.com/statistics/264337/cipa-companies-shipments-of-digital-cameras-since-1999/)
The proportion of cameras with interchangeable lenses sold rose from roughly 10% to more than 50% between 2010 and 2018 (https://www.statista.com/statistics/264337/cipa-companies-shipments-of-digital-cameras-since-1999/)
In 2018, this article suggested that mirrorless sales would overtake dSLR sales this year: http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews...8-mirrorless/when-does-mirrorless-suppla.html All predictions are, of course, subject to change without notice and I can't vouch for the writer's source of data.
You are probally correct in saying that many 5d series owners will not be sad as many will move to mirrorless in the future. However I am not yet sold on the advantages of mirrorless. When the option to jump from Film to Digital came along I jumped at it and never looked back. The thought of not have having to wait days on seeing how the developing went at the local chemist or having to post the small jiffy bags with my slide film was a great relief. For me, so far, the supposed advantages on now jumping to mirrorless seems like equating Colour tv to adding HD, as you still end up with a digital RAW or JPEG file with either a DLSR or Mirrorless body. Film cameras to digital was like jumping from B&W tv to colour tv. Everyone was trying to do the latter, but the majority of photographers I know are currently sticking with DSLR's for now. Of course that may change with advancements and lower prices, but there was an awful lot of sad people when Canon announced there would not be a 7D3 and I suspect this might be the same.
That raises another question: how do you know that those people "don't really need it"?Many people will of course always be attracted to newer technology, eg tv's, sound systems, pc's, latops even they they don't really need it.
There are IMO real advantages for mirrorless including what you see is what you get, being able to focus anywhere in the frame, accurate focus with no micro adjust faff on and things like eye detect which are real game changers if you take pictures of people.
I had the original 5D and at the time I thought I'd never want a better camera. The only issue was that it was a dust bunny magnet. However, the game has moved on and I doubt even Canon has the resources to fight for sales in the mirrorless market and keep their DSLR line competitive.
The what you see is what you get, is also available in the 5D4 in Live View Mode which I use from time to time for Macro, Bird shots and Table Top. Focusing is excellent and never had a dust problem. It also has Face Detection and Dual pixel focus but I have not used either. My reasons for eventually wanting to move on to mirrorless is purely to reduce weight and no other reason, I have not yet started looking but I would like the 5D4 spec but half the weight and I suspect it will be difficult to find a match. Even when I buy a ML, I will certainly retain my 5D4 for studio photography. I do not see this as a Cosmic change but just a natural progression.
Dave
To be honest I’d be very surprised if they discontinued the 5D series it’s their main full frame series
But I’m not up to date with camera sales figures so maybe they don’t sell so many now
But still I don’t think they would discontinue a line like the 5D series it would be like them giving up
Ahh I see thanks I didn’t know thatThey've just released the R5 and R6. The R5 is the replacement for the 5D MkIV, Canon have already said they've basically stopped DSLR development and EF mount lens development unless the market demands it. I'd be very surprised if the 1DX MKIII isn't their final DSLR release. They've aggressively developed their mirrorless cameras and the RF lens line over the past couple of years.
Live view with a DSLR involves either using a tripod or holding the camera in front of your face and personally I don't like that way of taking pictures and both could involve difficulty seeing the screen in good light. Using a VF is a much nicer and less problematic experience for me.
Like this - strap yourself in PeteI’m out of touch completely with mirrorless the nearest I have is my Sony RX100 mk 1
At the moment I use my 7D2 for wildlife, birds and zoo animals basically anything moving and my 6D2 for close up and macro
So I still prefer to use a viewfinder
Are the viewfinders on mirrorless now good enough for selecting a focus point quickly and getting spot on focus like with the joystick thing on the7D and also following focus on fast moving things like puffins in flight ?
Genuine question just wondering if mirrorless now can replace DSLR for everything
The Animal AF on the R5 is insane new footage
Oh wow that’s amazing I never thought that would be possibleLike this - strap yourself in Pete
Out of my budget at the moment but even so price will come down
Ahh I see thanks the r6 is much more affordable as I don’t need the extra video resolution of the r5R6 does the same but much cheaper. Sony has had eye af (human, more recently animal but not as good as canon) for years and have many models in the line up with excellent af from apsc to ff.
There's also the eos R and RP which will give you further savings.Ahh I see thanks the r6 is much more affordable as I don’t need the extra video resolution of the r5
As above the R6 has the same AF and is affordable. 20 Mpix is enough for me and no one ever complained about the IQ of the 1dx.Out of my budget at the moment but even so price will come down
As above the R6 has the same AF and is affordable. 20 Mpix is enough for me and no one ever complained about the IQ of the 1dx.
Haven't read anything - but I'd assume you'd want a battery grip for that kind of use.Can they drive AF on a 400mm lens for 80mins?
Yes 20 mpix is plenty for me tooAs above the R6 has the same AF and is affordable. 20 Mpix is enough for me and no one ever complained about the IQ of the 1dx.
My 5DIII is my work horse in every sense, but it is getting dated and I'm thinking of replacements. Not even looked at the Canon mirrorless series, but have a cupboard full of Canon lenses so would hate to have to start all over again from square one replacing them all. I'll watch with interest. Maybe a new 5DIII is the answer for now, but time to start researching (and saving!!).
Thanks that’s good to know I wouldn’t be able to afford to change my lensesNo, you wouldnt, Canon mirrorless offer native AF performance via an adapter.
Like this - strap yourself in Pete