They don't pay the vat or import fees. They try to avoid them and will refund you if it gets caught. It is how they are so much cheaper than a UK retailer.
They don't pay the vat or import fees. They try to avoid them and will refund you if it gets caught. It is how they are so much cheaper than a UK retailer.
Please do get informed before posting. The amount of old fashioned, outdated BS you have typed in the last two post, is enough to fertilize a large vegetable field.
Exactly!
The total price is really what's relevant and that must include all taxes. Are you able to let us in to the secret?
i know, field of view has been changed, thus making AF points seems bunched together and less useful.The AF points are in the same place, you now have more sensor outside it.
Thus it looks like they have all of the suddent pushed further in but in fact they have never moved. You have more sensor.
If you buy from their e-shop, they pay the import duties direct. Their shipping bill includes their account number for any duties and fees. The cost for a 5D3 is £2049 from DR e-shop.They don't pay the vat or import fees. They try to avoid them and will refund you if it gets caught. It is how they are so much cheaper than a UK retailer.
Surely price comparisons should be at the RRP anyway, as in a matter of months both will be available cheaper/as grey imports.
Surely price comparisons should be at the RRP anyway, as in a matter of months both will be available cheaper/as grey imports.
I bought my 5D second hand as a stop gap while I was waiting for the 5Dmk3 to be released, then decide on mk3 or mk2. The mk3 is the camera I want, but too expensive to justify, so I got neither.
As long as the AF on the 6D is better than my 5D, it looks like it will be the camera for me. I like FF, weather sealing, mainly metal body, GPS & wifi and I can live with an only 97% viewfinder, as that is better than the original 5D (there weren't many people moaning about that back when it was released!).
Well, for a couple of hundred quid more you could have a brand new 5DIII for Digitalrev or a nice D800.
the 6d won't be £1900 in 6 months time from the grey importers
from what I have researched the 6d is going to be good in low light conditions whch will certainly make it a must for some
I think canon have aimed this model at a specific area squeezing it very cleverly in their model range
I am waiting to read the comparisons particularly against the nikon offering
Where does it say that it doesn't have AFMA?
Agreed, but we're not talking about 6 months time, are we?
exactly the same discussion is going on over on the d600 thread
If we are comparing prices it should be at the the MRP
we have pixel peepers and AF point peepers now lol
d600 is almost as good as d800, and some might prefer 24mp over 36mp. 5DIII and 6D are totally different, in fact this 6D should be called 5D3 as it is a real continuation of poor af and build quality.
Rebel t3i said:is the build quality poor and is the af system poor
or is it a case of more af points makes a better camera and less is poor
No, more cross points makes a better camera. That is obvious to anyone.
Rebel t3i said:I thought you had gone out
before I pass judgement and condemn canons latest offering I shall await the test reviews for a more informed opinion
That was on the pointless price debate. This is more a technical matter. I'll be amazed if they've defied physics and made the outer points as good as cross points.
redhed17 said:I can't believe that Canon have used the 11 point AF again, :bonk: they are certainly getting their money out of that system.
Well I didn't think there would be a 6D so soon after the Nikon D600. I thought they would give themselves more time to adjust to D600 if there was options to make changes.
Looking at the specs, it seems Canon have made a FF 60D (without the flip LCD) and Nikon have made a FF D7000. The main thing the D600 gets from the D7000 is the AF and two card slots. I can't believe that Canon have used the 11 point AF again, :bonk: they are certainly getting their money out of that system. I thought they would have based the 6D on the 7D, at least as far as AF is concerned. Two card slots is important to some more than others, but it's a nice feature to have.
Last week people were saying were saying the D600 was disappointing, and are now saying it looks good in comparison to the 6D. I think they are both poor btw.
The main things which I think will catch most users eyes will be the price, £200 cheaper than the D600, so I doubt it will attract many people tempted to switch from Canon to Nikon.
Add to that the ISO performance, which has been pushed almost as much as pixels in recent years, and the 6D looks a lot better on paper. How that will be in real life is something we'll have to wait and see. A possible two stop increase in high ISO performance could be useful for many people. :shrug:
The other feature which will catch many peoples eye is the WiFi and GPS built in. WiFi means nothing to me, but it was a a big thing when it was an option on the D4, so I assume that will be popular being built in. And the option to upload directly to Facebook, which again means nothing to me, but will probably be a popular feature.
I like the idea of GPS, and I even bought a GPS logger to see where I was when I've been taking pics abroad, but I've never bothered to match the images to the GPS data, just looked at the traces of my routes. WiFi, and especially GPS does have a big hit on battery life. It's not as if it is adding to the price though.
So for Canon, FF, £200 cheaper than Nikon's 'cheap' FF, higher ISO option than Nikon's cheapest FF, and GPS and WiFi. That's what will catch most people's attention imho. The technicalities like AF, card slots, FPS, 100% viewfinders (or not) and whatever else are things that people on sites like this will discuss. :shrug:
This is the first Canon body with 11-point AF, though Nikon have had a few. The 5Dc and 5D2 had 9 -point AF.
You make it sound like 600d vs 60d debate. Well it is a lot of money for the body at this point, and people buying this kind gear actually tend to know something and think over the purchase. Effectivelly for 10% more you get 2x better camera. Is there anything else to say?