Can't find any current hot UK deals for Nissan Leaf but using Google I found quotes for a Leaf at £2995 deposit and £333 a month to lease where as a similar size ice medium sized family hatchback was £1575 and £175 a month both from same lease company.
The cheapest Leaf deal I could find was £3187 deposit and £245 per month. None of those Leaf quotes even come close to what can be had with the ice option.
You obviously didn't look very hard:
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ni...9-deposit-199-per-month-for-24-months-2630344
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/nissan-leaf-teckna-198pm-2yrs-199-deposit-inc-gap-ins-2623815
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/br...-7000-pounds-4-avaliable-5th-jan-2016-2357210
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/ni...posit-129pm-2-year-pcp-at-trentonhull-2165948
Yes the diesel engine is the subject of this thread, but just like the originator of the thread, you are of the misconception that the latest diesel engines produce high or even moderate amounts of pollution, when in fact they are quite low.
They produce infinitely more road-side pollution than EV's.
Lets say your Leaf is worth £5k as a used EV, when more "
second hand longer range EV come to market" your Leaf is going to drop in value because if I can buy your Leaf for £5k or I can buy a longer range EV for similar cost, why would I buy the Leaf? Unless it is significantly cheaper it's not going to sell.
The thing is, in 2-3 years time when the 6-7 years old Leaf is supposed to worth £5k, 2-3 years old current-gen more-range EV (that are asking £30-40k now) will be asking £15k or more. There is going to be a constant gap between early short range EV and long range cars. Yet as public becomes more knowledgeable regarding EV's, less worried about its range, these early EV are perfect local runabout. So I don't see Leaf resale value dropping as quickly as similarly priced diesel today.
Edit: just checked:
2014 Leaf price in today's market: ~£8500
2016 Euro 6 diesel: £7000 for a high mileage example (Ibiza, Focus, Giulietta, Golf), £8000 for a better condition one with ~70k on the clock.
Which one will depreciate quicker?
I'm sorry but in several replies you have stated it's cheaper to run an EV, it isn't and you have also stated that too (in a reply to me), so which is it cheaper or not, you cant have it both ways.
Comparing the total lifetime cost of a new EV to a new ICE of similar type, performance, quality etc (although as far as am aware 3 series BMW don't leak into their boots when the lid is raised, so similar quality to a 3 series BM, maybe not) has been stated by you to be similar and the only justification is to buy because of roadside pollution (which is admirable but doesn't negate the total cost of ownership), again stated by you.
Your EV might be cheaper to run but are you comparing lifetime costs against a similar vehicle, probably not.
Fact is any EV is not cheaper in terms of lifetime ownership against a similar ICE vehicle, you cannot justify an EV on financial terms alone.
As for Tesla being affordable I think you suffer much like politicians, not everyone earns a London salary or has disposable income like Londoners, for some one car is all they can afford and a cheap one at that i.e. less than £20K new, so most (all?) new EV are outside of their budget which is why ICE still works for most people. Not everyone wants a car on PCP so don't quote monthly "purchase" price either as making them affordable.
Fact is new EV aren't affordable to the masses and until they are it is one of a number of factors which will slow their adoption as mass individual/family transport.
I'm not sure you are fully understanding this. Total cost of ownership = cost of depreciation + running cost.
Total cost of ownership is similar in most cases, could be cheaper in an EV.
Cost of depreciation in EV may be more due to higher purchasing cost, so at same % residual value, EV would depreciate slightly more.
Running cost of EV is vastly cheaper. 10p/mile on a 55mpg vs 3p/mile in an EV.
So when compare like-for-like, £36k e-Niro vs £27k Niro hybrid, you only need 128k miles on fuel costs (ignoring service cost for now), well within lifetime of both vehicles.
Fact is, EV is cheaper in terms of lifetime cost against similar ICE vehicle. You can justify EV on financial terms alone.
A Tesla Model S would make lots of financial sense than likes of 5 series or E class due to low running cost. Thus in relative turns, making the Tesla affordable.
Then, due to lower absolute depreciation,
second hand EV makes an even better proposition.
Interesting, Is that supercharges only, as their map lists 7Kw Tesla Connectors in ones and twos. I.e. Near me Membury services have 8 every side, but thats 15 miles in the wrong direction, the next super charger on route to south wales is at the services at Bridgend, another 8 there. Other than that it's single or dual 7Kw
Infrastructure is everything to encourage EV takeup, as is lower cost, otherwise we'll be stuck with EV's being suitable for small journeys only, for those with driveways and/or large pockets
Yes, superchargers only. As I am looking for EV to replace my ICE car, the only viable option is Tesla at the moment due to complete lack of DC quick charging infrastructure for all other manufacturers. Anyone can charge at home don't really need to consider destination charging near their home.