D600 - £2000!

cambsno said:
What is needed in the Nikon range is a true pro body coming in around £1k maybe a bit more. DX would be fine, FX would be great (obviously more like £1500) but to reduce the AF points and to lose the all metal body????
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£1k is not a pro body money. Not a newly released product. It never has been, not from Canon or anyone.
 
I think UK Nikon and suppiler is having a laugh, less than £300 difference to D800. This price at near £2k will fall very quickly. Especially when people ain't going to queue up to get one at that price.
 
Yup, which is one very nice touch. Thought they might skimp on that.
 
I don't understand why Nikon continues to pull this AF motor fiasco. Who does does this? Does it really increases the price of the camera that much to implement one in? Why can't they put it in all their bodies and end this.

The whole thing feels very last century.
 
I imagine it's a lot cheaper not to, meaning they can offer entry level bodies at reasonable prices? I don't know really, just guessing. It does make it a bit "great, they included what they should do anyhow!" and people do always pose the question with every new model; it should be standard.
 
Raymond Lin said:
£1k is not a pro body money. Not a newly released product. It never has been, not from Canon or anyone.
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My d300 cost 1k new and I would define that as a pro body.
 
Raymond Lin said:
I don't understand why Nikon continues to pull this AF motor fiasco. Who does does this? Does it really increases the price of the camera that much to implement one in? Why can't they put it in all their bodies and end this.

The whole thing feels very last century.
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it is only the very entry level bodies that don't have one and being realistic most folks buying those are not going to be buying much more then the kit lens
 
cambsno said:
Was the D700 not an entry level FX body then?
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i thought D700 was a compact FX, compared to the massive brick known as D3(s/x).

now Nikon decided to increase their line up by stepping up to D800 and stepping down to D600. (y)


as someone who jumped ship from N DX to C full frame, i have to say if i saved up more and waited longer, i would have gotten this when it hits £1600.
 
My D300 cost around 1.5k new - entry Pro but not FX.

2k is too much, might keep an eye out for a decent D700.

Still would drool over the D600, but not likely to get one.


If I remember the specs from the rumour, it has less focal points than the D300? ah well, may be some decent offers to shift them though...
 
How many focus points do you need though, really? I have only 9 on my D90 and never failed to get focus on a point I wanted.
 
Expeed 3 processing
16 bit RAW files
7 central AF points sensitive to f8. Excellent for those that use teleconverters
100% viewfinder
1080p video based on D800 system - Convergence its the future ;)
WiFi connectivity.

Also there is a grip available - that may increase the FPS for those that need this

All in all a major improvement over the D700 spec and pretty good for aspiring Pro's. I think that prices will make this much more attractive after the early adopter premium has settled.
 
If most people hang on for a few months, the price will come down rapid. They won't though.
 
Hooky said:
Expeed 3 processing
16 bit RAW files
7 central AF points sensitive to f8. Excellent for those that use teleconverters
100% viewfinder
1080p video based on D800 system - Convergence its the future ;)
WiFi connectivity.

Also there is a grip available - that may increase the FPS for those that need this

All in all a major improvement over the D700 spec and pretty good for aspiring Pro's. I think that prices will make this much more attractive after the early adopter premium has settled.
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Ermmm.....
D600 12 or 14 bit RAW vs D700 16 bit
D600 39 AF points 9 cross type vs D700 51 points 15 cross type
D600 Half plastic vs D700 Magnesium
D600 Shutter speed 1/4000 vs D700 1/8000
 
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twist said:
Ermmm.....
D600 12 or 14 bit RAW vs D700 16 bit
D600 39 AF points 9 cross type vs D700 51 points 15 cross type
D600 Half plastic vs D700 Magnesium
D600 Shutter speed 1/4000 vs D700 1/8000
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D600 has 16 bit D700 has 14 bit.
D600 has 24MP and D700 12 MP
The number of AF points is less important than how they are spaced and how they operate. The newer processor should speed up their functioning.

Not quite sure what point you are trying to make with your post :thinking:
 
I'm wondering how often you'd need 1/8000 sec? Even wide open, shooting at 2.8 at base ISO, on a sunny day, I don't think the shutter jumps above 1/4000 much.
 
twist said:
Ermmm.....
D600 12 or 14 bit RAW vs D700 16 bit
D600 39 AF points 9 cross type vs D700 51 points 15 cross type
D600 Half plastic vs D700 Magnesium
D600 Shutter speed 1/4000 vs D700 1/8000
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I didnt think any nikon did 16 bit raw? just checked the d700 and d800 specs on dpreview to confirm.

No reason to discount plastic, thats what a typhoon canopy is made of (acrylic resin).

And also this isnt a d700 replacement. The d700 appears to have been replaced by 2 models, one 'up' one 'down'.

Do wish it was cheaper though...
 
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Hooky said:
D600 has 16 bit D700 has 14 bit.
D600 has 24MP and D700 12 MP
The number of AF points is less important than how they are spaced and how they operate. The newer processor should speed up their functioning.

Not quite sure what point you are trying to make with your post :thinking:
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Actually according to Nikon USA the D600 has 12 or 14 bit RAW. And the first link I saw was incorrect the D700 does indeed have 14 bit RAW. The point Im making is its not a "major" improvement over the D700.
 
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Cagey75 said:
I'm wondering how often you'd need 1/8000 sec? Even wide open, shooting at 2.8 at base ISO, on a sunny day, I don't think the shutter jumps above 1/4000 much.
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Perhaps not very often in the UK but nice to have if youre shooting a fast prime in very sunny conditions at base. Some people shoot faster than f2.8.
 
The option of 1/8000 is nice to have there, but I don't think I have ever shot 1.8 outdoors under strong sunlight. Not in Ireland would you get much chance at least :D
 
I am slightly disappointed about the pricing for us UK customers.
The D600 body costs $2096.95 in the US, which should equate to £1,301.34 as of today's exchange rate. Even with the 20% sales tax added (£260) , it should still be cheaper than the announced RRP for UK which is £1995.

Such a shame that they rip off customers here in the UK. £1995 is quite a lot imo, given that the current Amazon price for D800 is just over 2.2K.
 
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Hooky said:
D600 has 24MP and D700 12 MP
The number of AF points is less important than how they are spaced and how they operate. The newer processor should speed up their functioning.
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Plus the D700 does 7fps and 8fps with the grip and the right batteries. ;)

People keep on talking about affordable FX when the D700 has been that for awhile.


The D600 will come down in price, but at the current price the D800 is looking very tempting for those for whom the megapixels is the big draw. :shrug:
 
twist said:
Perhaps not very often in the UK but nice to have if youre shooting a fast prime in very sunny conditions at base. Some people shoot faster than f2.8.
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an ND filter has been the fix for this for years.

My assesment of the D600 release is that it's almost exactly what I expected at the obvious price point, anyone who thought this would come with a release rrp of £1500 or less was sadly dreaming. The 2k release price lets nikon make a tidy profit from the early adopters and then slowly lower the price to the point where sales of both it and the D800 are where they want them which makes much more sense than releasing it cheap realising it was a mistake and bumping the price upwards. They also get to take advantage of a clear field with the rummoured Canon rival not on the scene yet so they are right to take advantage.

I really can't believe the poeple moaning about the AF system and the FPS, the number and type of points is more than enough so provided the placement is good the AF will be fine and the fps is exactly what should be expected for the mp of the camera without a grip. I seriously think some people are loosing the plot at the minute with the obsession with huge numbers of AF points it's getting so boring.
 
https://nikoneurope-en.custhelp.com/ci/documents/view/1/AvU_~wquOv8SphaPGjMe~yL~Jvsq~_r~GTrySzr~

Came as a bit of a surprise to me :D

  • 24.3-megapixel FX-format (full-frame) CMOS sensor with excellent signal-to-noise ratio and wide dynamic range. Delivers richly detailed images with smooth tonal gradations.
  • Highly sensitive autofocus with Multi-CAM4800 39-point AF system: delivers fast and precise coverage across the frame. Sensitive down to -1 EV and compatible up to f/8.
  • ISO 100–6400: extendable up to 25,600 (equivalent) and down to 50 (equivalent). Enables faster shutter speeds for finely detailed images with minimal noise.
  • Multi-area D-Movie records FX- and DX-format Full HD (1080p) movies in 30p, 25p and 24p. Max recording time approx. 29 minutes 59 seconds. Offers uncompressed HDMI output to external devices and high-fidelity audio control.
  • EXPEED 3 image processing engine with 14-bit A/D conversion and 16-bit image processing for superb tonal gradation.
  • HDR (High Dynamic Range): ideal for high-contrast scenes. Takes two shots within a single shutter release to create an image with an extremely wide dynamic range, low noise and rich color gradation.
  • Active D-Lighting: capture more detail in high-contrast lighting conditions. Nikon’s Active D-Lighting automatically retains the details in both dark and bright areas for stunning images with natural contrast.
  • Scene Recognition System: the camera’s image sensor and its 2,016-pixel RGB sensor provide precise data to the Scene Recognition System, which optimizes exposure, autofocus and white balance immediately before the shutter is released for sharply defined images.
  • Time-lapse shooting: use Interval Timer Shooting to trigger the shutter at preset intervals. Use Time Lapse Photography to save images as movie files and view slow action in fast playback, with playback rates from 24 to 36,000 times faster than normal.
  • Picture Controls customize the look of your stills and videos by fine-tuning parameters such as sharpness, saturation, and hue before capture.
  • Precision 8-cm (3.2-in.), 921k-dot, VGA LCD monitor with automatic monitor brightness control. Delivers bright, crisp image playback with a wide color reproduction capacity.
  • High-performance viewfinder with approx. 100% frame coverage and 0.7x magnification. Offers DX Crop Mode with viewfinder marking.
  • 5.5 fps continuous shooting: capture fast-moving action at five-and-a-half frames per second.
  • Quiet shooting mode: perfect for discreet photography, the sound of the camera’s mirror return mechanism is noticeably reduced.
  • Mirror balancer: minimizes the bounce of the mirror’s down movement, extending viewing time and allowing more time for AF operation—one reason the D600 achieves AF and focus tracking even during high-speed continuous shooting.
  • Compact, light and durable: built to withstand severe conditions, the camera boasts magnesium alloy top and rear covers and weighs only 760 g (without battery). Weather-sealed to the same degree as Nikon’s professional D800 SLR, it offers enhanced resistance to moisture and dust.
  • Dual-axis electronic virtual horizon: you can confirm the camera's position relative to the horizontal plane and its pitch (forward or rear rotation) using the LCD monitor, or the viewfinder.
  • Twin SD card slots: two SD memory card slots offer enhanced shooting flexibility. Use the second card when the first is full, or record stills on one and movies on another. SDXC and UHS-I compatible.
  • Wireless transfer: Nikon’s optional WU-1b Mobile Adapter lets you share images directly from the D600 to a smartphone or tablet, or to control the camera remotely via your smart device*.
 
a1ex2001 said:
an ND filter has been the fix for this for years.
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What if the user doesnt own an ND or want the hassle of putting one on and off or using filters at all. Im not obsessed by AF points, merely replying to a numbers post with numbers.
 
Like the twin SD slots.

Shame the D300 and D700 don't use them and you can't fit adapters that actually work! Would be handy as the laptop has an SD card slot
 
In other news - MB-D14 grip; just for the D600 and no other body (yet); 249 nicker.
 
D600 is a great idea, compact FX where some people complain about the big D3 and slightly bigger D700. This will shut most of those users up with a light and small FX (D7k size).

I got a D7k and i see this as a D7k body but full frame sensor. This maybe a good thing for some people and some will be disappointed because is not a d300(s) replacement.

I personally would get a used D3 or D700 to replace my D7000 if i want to go FX and leave my D300 as a backup since is still a bloody good DX camera even tho is been out dated .......
 
Ajith said:
I am slightly disappointed about the pricing for us UK customers.
The D600 body costs $2096.95 in the US, which should equate to £1,301.34 as of today's exchange rate. Even with the 20% sales tax added (£260) , it should still be cheaper than the announced RRP for UK which is £1995.

Such a shame that they rip off customers here in the UK. £1995 is quite a lot imo, given that the current Amazon price for D800 is just over 2.2K.
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It'll no doubt settle down to £1800 ish I would guess. If it's £200 cheaper than the D800 I would expect most people to get the D800.
 
twist said:
What if the user doesnt own an ND or want the hassle of putting one on and off or using filters at all. Im not obsessed by AF points, merely replying to a numbers post with numbers.
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The AF point wasn't really directed at you just the thread/forum in general the ongoing lengthy debat about how you need 70 odd of the things to take a decent picture is quite funny.

If you don't own an ND filter and want to shoot f1.4 in really bright sunshine on a d600 you'll have to buy one, if you don't want the hassle of the filter then you have the option of buying the better specced d800. there has to be some product differentiation if everyones wish list for the d600 were true then it would be a better camera than the d800 at half the price of it which isn't exactly realistic!
 
a1ex2001 said:
The AF point wasn't really directed at you just the thread/forum in general the ongoing lengthy debat about how you need 70 odd of the things to take a decent picture is quite funny.
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To be honest I rarely use more than the centre one! I normal focus and re-compose. If I'm doing stuff where the point of focus is always in an alternative location I might change it but normally don't bother.
 
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