D600 - £2000!

Rapscallion said:
Just noticed there's no back AF button.

I shoot with AFtriggered by this button - is it possible with the d600 / d7000?
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You can use the AF/AEL button on the D7000 but I find it slightly awkward. The button falls just to the left of where you expect it to be.
 
Not sure what the problem is with the price,all new cameras come out with RRP price thats high,but they all come down,the only problem is if you want one now :D.

As for the camera i will have a look at one,and take it from their :)
 
Even after US tax on top of $2,100, you're still paying more (around £350 I think) then you should if you were a US consumer. Could be down to volume of orders/shipping costs or could just be greed. ;) It doesn't sit well in the line-up of Nikon cameras currently available but I think there's a crowd that will always see something new and want it (I certainly am guilty of this for the Nikon D300s....an expensive impulse buy).
 
so so dissapointed
sure its good but price and spec doesnt cut it
a full frame 24mp D7000 should be about £1250 and £1550 with kit lens
ignoring market prices and looking at list prices there is still too big a gap between D7000 and D600 with nothing in it,
Are we maybe going to get another launch at Photokina to fill that gap later this month??

If not looks like its gonna be a D800 for me.
 
simonblue said:
Not sure what the problem is with the price,all new cameras come out with RRP price thats high,but they all come down,the only problem is if you want one now :D.

As for the camera i will have a look at one,and take it from their :)
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All apart from the D800's where the price went up once Nikon figured out they could gouge a bit more out of people just for the hell of it. Now they've dropped back down a bit it should give them less maneuvoring space with the D600 price at least.

God help them if any of the focus points dont work!
 
essexash said:
All apart from the D800's where the price went up once Nikon figured out they could gouge a bit more out of people just for the hell of it. Now they've dropped back down a bit it should give them less maneuvoring space with the D600 price at least.

God help them if any of the focus points dont work!
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Yep but it has come down :D
 
The price WILL come down, it always does.

Or I could pick one up in a few weeks when I am off to NYC, hotel is round the corner from B&H !

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Im sure Nikon will sell a lot of these, but I do question where they can go from here....

The D700 was, and still is, a fantastic all rounder. They seem to have chopped it in half and made two specialised, targeted cameras aimed at different groups of people, but with limitations on both.

But what do Nikon now offer if you want to shoot faster than 5fps or go over 6400 iso, other than the D4?

Not sure they have left enough room for a camera to fit in between the D600 and D800 that's the best of both?

Starting to think the D700 was one of a kind! :)
 
iamchrisphoto said:
Im sure Nikon will sell a lot of these, but I do question where they can go from here....

The D700 was, and still is, a fantastic all rounder. They seem to have chopped it in half and made two specialised, targeted cameras aimed at different groups of people, but with limitations on both.
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Is it me or has Nikon gone a bit Canon and Canon has gone a bit Nikon?

Think how the 5D2 and 7D differientiate, now how the 5D3 and 1Dx has everything you want.

And look at Nikon on how D700 has split into these D600 and D800?

To be fair, the only negative (if it is) of the D800 is the file size. It is still an immense piece of equipment.
 
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Cagey75 said:
If most people hang on for a few months, the price will come down rapid. They won't though.
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Remember what happened with the D800. After being on sale for a short time Nikon revised the cost upwards.
 
Couldn't help but laugh when I saw the e-mail from Wex this morning with the announcement.

Hmmm, D600 for £1900 or D800 for £2200. Well, that's a no brainer. £1500-1600 would have made the decrease in AF points and MP worth it over the D800 - IMO.
 
i still would take the D700 any day simply because the d700 is like a perfect camera.

How many times do we need to shoot over 6400 with a fast lens?

I'm happy with a d700 12mp, 6400 iso and robust body that can take the beat just like my d300.
 
iamchrisphoto said:
Im sure Nikon will sell a lot of these, but I do question where they can go from here....

The D700 was, and still is, a fantastic all rounder. They seem to have chopped it in half and made two specialised, targeted cameras aimed at different groups of people, but with limitations on both.

But what do Nikon now offer if you want to shoot faster than 5fps or go over 6400 iso, other than the D4?

Not sure they have left enough room for a camera to fit in between the D600 and D800 that's the best of both?

Starting to think the D700 was one of a kind! :)
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Wheather a baby D4,will ever turn up who know,you could say that about the D3 & D700,both brought Nikon back into the pro market,on the ground they were losing to Canon.
Then Nikon brought out the D3s that adder video,since then they have both been running about even.
I dont think the D800 or the D4 made a lot photographer swap from Canon to Nikon,or Canon new range swaping from Nikon to Canon :)
 
iamchrisphoto said:
Im sure Nikon will sell a lot of these, but I do question where they can go from here....

The D700 was, and still is, a fantastic all rounder. They seem to have chopped it in half and made two specialised, targeted cameras aimed at different groups of people, but with limitations on both.

But what do Nikon now offer if you want to shoot faster than 5fps or go over 6400 iso, other than the D4?

Not sure they have left enough room for a camera to fit in between the D600 and D800 that's the best of both?

Starting to think the D700 was one of a kind! :)
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I'll hazard a guess that Nikon will not produce another DSLR with under 18MP.
 
I bought my D700 from pcworld for 1199 and can say now seeing the D600 price I'm glad I didn't wait!!
 
iamchrisphoto said:
Im sure Nikon will sell a lot of these, but I do question where they can go from here....

The D700 was, and still is, a fantastic all rounder. They seem to have chopped it in half and made two specialised, targeted cameras aimed at different groups of people, but with limitations on both.

But what do Nikon now offer if you want to shoot faster than 5fps or go over 6400 iso, other than the D4?

Not sure they have left enough room for a camera to fit in between the D600 and D800 that's the best of both?

Starting to think the D700 was one of a kind! :)
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It was one of a kind. It was a parts bin strategy made up of D300 and D3 bits, made up solely to compete with the 5d. This is a completely new model.

The price is, and was always, going to be £1700 street after the dust settled.
 
James J said:
Well, there are physical differences in weather sealing, not just including the placement but also the materials used as the seals. For example, the canon 5D mk i and mk ii cameras used foam pads instead of a rubber seal for most of the camera, compared to the nikon D700. Big difference in the weather sealing quality between the cameras due to that alone when in more extreme environments.

Sure, in light rain, you'd probably never notice a difference, but in more extreme weather conditions such as heavy rain, high humidity or minus temperatures, the difference in weather sealing quality really comes into its own.

As for the D600 as a product, its just too damn expensive to warrant buying one over the D800. Personally I would like the D800E, but the price fluctuations on it are doing my head in.
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Nikon say that the D600 is as well sealed as the D800.
 
I don't think it's super expensive. Did we think the D7000 was when that came out?

The 600 has incredibly good video (in theory) improved AF, iso and 24mp FF and 10mp DX.

Looks pretty good to me, even if it was staying at £2000, I don't think that's extortionate.

Let's not forget the Sony RX1 ;)
 
Actually I'm going through the whole A99 or D600 debate in my mind now.

Firstly the test shots aren't really going to be much good on their own without a comparable camera to test against. I guess that's why I love the DPReview widget thingy.

I've had a Sony A55 and now a A77 so am pretty much used to the EVF now. I've actually borrowed a D7000 to have a good play with and so far the gap in ISO is smaller than I thought.

What I am REALLY missing though is the amount of information and how idiot proof the EVF makes shooting. For example for a quick test shot I took a photo of my hallway focusing on the door. It suddenly dawned on me how much I rely upon the EVF to get the exposure right and going back to the OVF was a real step backwards.
 
heidfirst said:
Nikon say that the D600 is as well sealed as the D800.
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In what conditions though? In light rain most cameras will be absolutely fine for example. Its a good selling point if true, although not having a full magnesium alloy body still means that it won't be as robust as the D300s/D700/D800 bodies.

Phil Young said:
I don't think it's super expensive. Did we think the D7000 was when that came out?

The 600 has incredibly good video (in theory) improved AF, iso and 24mp FF and 10mp DX.

Looks pretty good to me, even if it was staying at £2000, I don't think that's extortionate.

Let's not forget the Sony RX1 ;)
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The D600 can't change aperture whilst shooting video, which can be done on a D800/D4 etc. How big that is for videographers is another thing entirely though!
 
gadgeteer said:
What I am REALLY missing though is the amount of information and how idiot proof the EVF makes shooting. For example for a quick test shot I took a photo of my hallway focusing on the door. It suddenly dawned on me how much I rely upon the EVF to get the exposure right and going back to the OVF was a real step backwards.
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I would see that as a bad habit to get into. If you start to depend on an EVF, you'll only ever buy bodies that include it. I'd rather go by the histogram.
 
Cagey75 said:
I would see that as a bad habit to get into. If you start to depend on an EVF, you'll only ever buy bodies that include it. I'd rather go by the histogram.
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mmm, I'm sure that they said that about light meters in-body, auto-exposure, autofocus, digital sensors rather than film etc. etc.
Like it or not the future is EVF - the only question is when & not if.
 
Cagey75 said:
I would see that as a bad habit to get into. If you start to depend on an EVF, you'll only ever buy bodies that include it. I'd rather go by the histogram.
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It's hardly a problem when Sony's entire range has pretty much gone EVF and more and more other cameras seem to be heading that way. The EVF in theory is a great idea and I really like some of the extra information overlay options, just need the technology to catch up and it is fast getting there.
 
What Nikon has here basically is a 5Dii with better AF and dual card slots, at 25% more expensive.
 
tbh, I've not tried the up to date EVFs, I just remember using older ones on bridge cameras. The change to OVF for me was great! I found the EVFs dark and too ... digitised.
 
Cagey75 said:
tbh, I've not tried the up to date EVFs, I just remember using older ones on bridge cameras. The change to OVF for me was great! I found the EVFs dark and too ... digitised.
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To be fair on sony there evf can not be compared to a evf on a bridge. My freind has the a77 and i was more than impressed. Live histogram is great.
 
Raymond Lin said:
24mp at 5.5fps sounds spot on?
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I agree that's good for a 24mp camera, the D700 is 5fps at 12mp, increasing to 8fps with the MB-D10 fitted + a EN-EL4 battery fitted or 8 AAs, no doubt the grip for the D600 will increase the fps to 7/8fps. Would i buy one at £2k no, not at £1500 either, if i remember correctly the D700 settled down to around £1500 a few months after release, it was the increase in VAT that hiked it back up again to around £1760 (which is when i purchased my one :bonk:) i believe the D700 was one of a kind, it was a great camera on release, and still is to this day, i would buy a second hand D700 over a D600 all day every day, i just hope one day Nikon will come up with a camera as good with a similiar price tag.
 
I wouldn't be too bothered about the high list price of the d600 unless you need one now - the d7000 was £1100 body only when released.
 
TG. said:
I agree that's good for a 24mp camera, the D700 is 5fps at 12mp, increasing to 8fps with the MB-D10 fitted + a EN-EL4 battery fitted or 8 AAs, no doubt the grip for the D600 will increase the fps to 7/8fps. Would i buy one at £2k no, not at £1500 either, if i remember correctly the D700 settled down to around £1500 a few months after release, it was the increase in VAT that hiked it back up again to around £1760 (which is when i purchased my one :bonk:) i believe the D700 was one of a kind, it was a great camera on release, and still is to this day, i would buy a second hand D700 over a D600 all day every day, i just hope one day Nikon will come up with a camera as good with a similiar price tag.
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Hi Tel, i think it was the exchange rate that sent the price up, the vat would only account for about £60 of the increase. I was looking at the prices for my brother who wanted to upgrade at the time, and he missed the boat and still has his d200's!
 
Just got in to see the near £2k price, I've been waiting for this for months to upgrade my D90 to FF, did expect it to be around the £1600 mark but at £1950 am now tempted to just go flat out and get the D800
 
Cagey75 said:
tbh, I've not tried the up to date EVFs, I just remember using older ones on bridge cameras. The change to OVF for me was great! I found the EVFs dark and too ... digitised.
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I thought the LCD EVF on the A55 was pretty good. But the OLED on the A65/A77 takes it to a whole new level.

Cagey75 said:
I would see that as a bad habit to get into. If you start to depend on an EVF, you'll only ever buy bodies that include it. I'd rather go by the histogram.
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I wouldn't class it as a bad habit. It's a bit like saying that I should learn to drive with manual gears because otherwise I'll only ever buy an automatic car. You are right except for a lot of people, driving automatic is perfectly fine (Most Americans for example cannot use 'stick shift')

Oh and I can get the histogram overlayed in the bottom corner of the EVF by pressing a button. Not that i need it.
 
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