Dev or scanning issue??

[srichards]

Just got the scans back from the Silbersalz I sent to AW. A couple of them have weird sludgy marks. This one shows it the best. Any ideas what caused this? It's not on every shot but a few other have a 'grubby' look as well. All taken on the Pentax 17. I've never used ECN2 film before. The area above left dragon seems to have dirty brown marks.

 

[srichards]

Another with similar brown marks:

 

[srichards]

Another weird mark on this one. Pale rather than brown. Bottom bit of big cloud just above the tall tree.

 

[jimmyjamjojo]

Impossible to tell without seeing the negatives, but given the similar placement in all of them I'd wager it's a scanning issue.

 

[Barney]

The marks look a pale blue to me
first horizontal
second two vertical, left and center
third horizontal (looks like some kind of writing)

 

[FishyFish]

I'd contact AW. If they haven't returned your negs yet, then they should be able to check to see if there is residue on them. Otherwise you'll be able to see when you get them back.

 

[srichards]

I have contacted AW to ask them about it. Might just be one strip that has some goop on it and they can clean it off and just rescan it.

 

[srichards]

AW have rescanned them all. Interestingly there is now some noticeable banding on some instead. Very odd. Others have a couple of band lines but this one has lots.

 

[FishyFish]

AW have rescanned them all. Interestingly there is now some noticeable banding on some instead. Very odd. Others have a couple of band lines but this one has lots.

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I wonder if there was residue present and on some the cleaning has resulted in smears? It doesn't look like scanner banding, which would be straight.

 

[srichards]

I wonder if there was residue present and on some the cleaning has resulted in smears? It doesn't look like scanner banding, which would be straight.

It's a mystery really. There's marks on others in lines but they are pairs or triples not all over so much of the scan.

 

[Kevin Allan]

Does Silbersalz film still have the remjet on ? The artefacts look as if they may be caused by less-than-perfect removal of the remjet. I experienced this problem myself when developing Vision 3 films and removing the remjet myself.

 

[srichards]

Does Silbersalz film still have the remjet on ? The artefacts look as if they may be caused by less-than-perfect removal of the remjet. I experienced this problem myself when developing Vision 3 films and removing the remjet myself.

It does have the remjet layer. Have a second roll so undecided whether to use that and send it to a different lab or not.

 

[srichards]

I contacted AW again about the weird marks on the above re-scanned ones. They have refunded half the cost of processing as a goodwill gesture.

So looks the answer is in fact - both! It was a dev and scanning issue as they hadn't done either properly