F1 - 2018 discussion

Lucky LH won, sad for Bottas though.

Lucky Vettel won Australia, swings and roundabouts, good for all the midfield teams all these accidents, Renault were going very well too, looking good for alonso to move over [emoji6]
 
Lucky Vettel won Australia, swings and roundabouts, good for all the midfield teams all these accidents, Renault were going very well too, looking good for alonso to move over [emoji6]

I am not on about SV, I am on about it was lucky for LH that his team mates tyre blew giving him the win. But thats F1 for you :)
 
As DC said post race, a driver is (or should be) constantly scanning the surface for debris etc. so VB should have spotted it. Of course, it should have been cleared up properly as well! SV binning it was a rare example of his hopes exceeding his (considerable) talent. LH was lucky to be in the right place at the right time and that VB cleared the debris out of his way. Keeps the season interesting! :D
 
Interesting race for sure, I disagree with DC regarding the DR and MV collision, for once (and probably the only time) I agreed with Eddie Jordan, MV moved more than once, there would never be any overtaking if the driver in front could just block the passing vehicle, especially in the DRS zone when there is a clear speed advantage. MV certainly puts the cat amongst the pigeons, but I rate DR higher personally.
 
IMO that's the correct decision. Yes, MV did move twice - once defensively and once to get back on the line. DR went in too hot, locked up and took them both out. s*** happens, especially on the track!
 
Looking forward to this weekend should be interesting. Will Alonso be on a high from his spa victory
 
Looking forward to this weekend should be interesting. Will Alonso be on a high from his spa victory
With no Audi and no Porsche, the only team that could beat Toyota was themselves. The race was theirs to lose, and they didn't, which is likely to be the story for every race until after Le Mans 2019. I'm sure Alonso will be happy, but victory wasn't the titanic struggle the LMP1 category has been in previous years.

It is good to see a current F1 driver out competing in something other than F1 though.
 
2018 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE ESPAÑA EMIRATES

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Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya
Lap data
Lap length 4.655km (2.892 miles)
Race laps 66
Race distance 307.104km (190.826 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’21.670 (Kimi Raikkonen, 2008)
Fastest lap 1’19.954 (Rubens Barrichello, 2009, )
Maximum speed 332kph (206.295 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Pit straight and straight after Campsa
Distance from grid to turn one 730m
Full throttle 67%
Longest flat-out section 1310m
Downforce level High
Fuel use per lap 1.7kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.051s

UK Times
Friday 11th May 2018
Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 11:00-12:30 (UK time: 10:00-11:30)
Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 15:00-16:30 (UK time: 14:00-15:30)
Saturday 12th May 2018
Spanish Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 12:00-13:00 (UK time: 11:00-12:00)
Spanish Grand Prix Qualifying: 15:00 (UK time: 14:00)
Sunday 13th May 2018
Spanish Grand Prix: 15:10 (UK time: 14:10)

Previous Winners
2017 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2016 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull-TAG Heuer
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2014 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2013 Spain Fernando Alonso Ferrari
2012 Venezuela Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault
2011 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2010 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
2009 United Kingdom Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes
2008 Finland Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
2007 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari
2006 Spain Fernando Alonso Renault
2005 Finland Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
2004 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2003 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2002 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2001 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2000 Finland Mika Häkkinen McLaren-Mercedes

Videos

Hamilton 2017 on board
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2e1krmYs_HM


Bernoldi 2002 onboard
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r5x1ujPa8k


Facts from the last race
By his own admission, Lewis Hamilton’s 63rd career victory won’t go down as one of his finest. However it continues his record of winning at least one race in each of the 12 seasons he’s started so far.

He has now won on 25 different circuits (a record he already held) and has won 22 different grands prix (tying Michael Schumacher for the record). He could add one more to each of these if he wins the French Grand Prix at Paul Ricard, which will give him a clean sweep of winning every event on the calendar.

For the third race in a row Sebastian Vettel took pole position. In a further sign of their improving form, this was their first trio of consecutive pole positions in a decade: Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa took three-in-a-row for them at Istanbul, Monaco and Montreal in 2008.

Baku is cementing a reputation for unpredictability. In three years we’ve had three different winners (Hamilton, Daniel Ricciardo and Nico Rosberg) and three different pole sitters (Vettel, Hamilton and Rosberg). Most surprisingly, only one driver has appeared on the podium twice in Baku, and he doesn’t drive for Mercedes, Ferrari or Red Bull: it’s Force India’s Sergio Perez.

F1 visited Azerbaijan two months earlier than usual and in cool, gusty conditions teams were not able to lap any quicker than last year. As a result, this was only the second time since the beginning of last year that the track record was not broken during an F1 race weekend. Indeed, half the teams lapped slower than they did in 2017, three of them by more than a second.

Baku does not appear to be Nico Hulkenberg’s kind of track. In 2016 he spun in qualifying and could only manage ninth while team mate Perez finished on the podium. He crashed out of the race in both of his two appearances for Renault, and can surely chalk this one up as an eighth missed opportunity to score that elusive first podium.

He at least managed to sustain his 100% qualifying record against Carlos Sainz Jnr. The only other driver who is undefeated in qualifying this year is Fernando Alonso.

There was no joy for Valtteri Bottas who was three laps away from winning when he hit a piece of debris. This ended his career-best 18-race streak of points finishes. Team mate Hamilton extended his record streak to 29 with his win.

Monaco has been waiting an awfully long time for its second driver to score a point since Louis Chiron finished third at his home race in 1950. That was the second round of the world championship. Charles Leclerc finally succeeded him in the 980th race by taking sixth. Leclerc may have finished three places lower than Chiron but he scored twice as many points.

Another country ended a long wait for a points-scorer. Brendon Hartley’s 10th place was the first points for a New Zealander since Chris Amon came fifth in the 1976 Spanish Grand Prix (round 268 of the world championship).

Williams got their first points on the board courtesy of Lance Stroll, meaning all the teams have scored points within the first four races of the season. This is the first time this has happened since points were extended down to 10th place in 2010.

Drivers’ Chosen Tyres
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Championship Standings
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They really should put turns 13,14,15 back to how it used to be as the end of the lap was awesome in the old configuration.
 
2018 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX DE MONACO

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Circuit de Monaco
Lap data
Lap length 3.337km (2.074 miles)
Race laps 78
Race distance 260.286km (161.734 miles)
Pole position Right-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’17.939 (Lewis Hamilton, 2016)
Fastest lap 1’13.622 (Daniel Ricciardo, 2016, qualifying three)
Maximum speed 290kph (180.198 mph)
Distance from grid to turn one 111m
Full throttle 34%
Longest flat-out section 669m
Downforce level Maximum
Gear changes per lap 47

UK Times
Thursday 24th May 2018
Monaco Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 11:00-12:30 (UK time: 10:00-11:30)
Monaco Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 15:00-16:30 (UK time: 14:00-15:30)
Saturday 26th May 2018
Monaco Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 12:00-13:00 (UK time: 11:00-12:00)
Monaco Grand Prix Qualifying: 15:00 (UK time: 14:00)
Sunday 27th May 2018
Monaco Grand Prix: 15:10 (UK time: 14:10)

Previous Winners
2017 Germany Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2014 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2013 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2012 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
2011 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2010 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
2009 United Kingdom Jenson Button Brawn-Mercedes
2008 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2007 Spain Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes
2006 Spain Fernando Alonso Renault
2005 Finland Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
2004 Italy Jarno Trulli Renault
2003 Colombia Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW
2002 United Kingdom David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes
2001 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2000 United Kingdom David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes

Videos

Kubica 2010 on board
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbYMoKxif6I


Senna 1990 onboard
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auXfAHHNSFo


Facts from the last race

A return to form for Lewis Hamilton in the Spanish Grand Prix saw him rack up his 64th career win and 74th pole position – also the sixth in a row for Mercedes in Spain. He extended his record points-scoring streak yet further, to race number 30.

However the Mercedes driver was denied a hat-trick of pole, victory and fastest lap as Daniel Ricciardo set the quickest tour of the race. This was the third time this year he has done so – Valtteri Bottas claimed the other two.

Bottas joined Hamilton on the podium, making Mercedes the first team to score a one-two this season. Max Verstappen also scored his first podium finish of the season which is the 150th for Red Bull.

That result moved Verstappen up to sixth in the drivers’ championship, one point ahead of Fernando Alonso. This was the first time Alonso has scored in his home race since returning to McLaren.

Alonso has been in the points at every race so far this year, something only Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel have also managed. The McLaren driver is also the only person left in the field who is undefeated by his team mate in all races and qualifying sessions this year.

Carlos Sainz Jnr continued his record of scoring points in every Spanish Grand Prix he has started. He also took the chequered flag before Alonso in each of those.

Sainz has been the top-scoring Spanish driver since he came into F1, though it’s been a close fight between him and Alonso. Sainz was 18-11 up at the end of 2015, but a better year for McLaren-Honda in 2016 saw Alonso edge ahead 65-64 on cumulative points.

The 2017 campaign was dire for Alonso and Sainz took advantage to forge ahead 118-82. So far this year the much-improved McLaren-Renault package has allowed Alonso to out-score Sainz, but he is still down on 114 to Sainz’s 137.

The final point went to Charles Leclerc, which puts him one point clear of Stoffel Vandoorne. Monaco’s first home driver for 24 years will arrive at the grand prix having scored in the last two races in a row.

Lance Stroll narrowly finished outside the points but he did well to reach the chequered flag at all as he was almost eliminated on the first lap by Romain Grosjean. Stroll made up the most places on lap one in 2017 and is at the top of the board again so far this season, having gained 18 places on lap one – twice as many as any other driver.

Stroll and Sergey Sirotkin are the two most closely-matched team mates in terms of performance: the rookies averaging 0.017 seconds faster than the sophomore driver in the ill-handling FW41. The next-closest team mates qualify at the opposite end of the grid: Hamilton has a 0.018s advantage on average over Bottas.


Drivers’ Chosen Tyres
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Championship Standings
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I think a DRS zone through the tunnel would spice things up!
 
Ferrari possibly caught in another bit of "rule bending"?

According to a report in Auto Motor und Sport, F1 rivals are considering a formal protest against Ferrari at next week's Monaco Grand Prix, following allegations that the Italian team is able to extract more power from its battery and energy recovery system, than the prescribed four megajoules.

The bit of technical wizardry in question, centres around the Scuderia's ability to modify the energy harvest and battery output during a race, and utilise this extra 'juice' to produce an additional 20bhp. The chicanery effectively bypasses the vital FIA mandated sensors that measure electrical usage.

According to AMS reporter Michael Schmidt: "The alleged trickery is so complicated that FIA engineers are struggling to understand it."

https://www.givemesport.com/1315125...rotest-from-rivals-ahead-of-monaco-grand-prix
 
Pleased that Daniel Ricciardo won but that was a dull race. Riccardo running without the MGU-K but still able to stay ahead makes the track a joke.
 
Pleased that Daniel Ricciardo won but that was a dull race. Riccardo running without the MGU-K but still able to stay ahead makes the track a joke.
Yep, I'd agree with that.

I'm a fan of F1, watch all the races etc but yesterday I watched the first few laps and went out! I worked out that Red Bulls strategy was to run slow so as not to allow any opportunity for the undercut, save tyres and just keep track position.
Whether that was also in order to help crash a lot Max in keeping the field less spread out I'm not sure.

Didn't Lewis mention they turned everything down from about lap 6?
Thats not racing, it's a demonstration and boring as hell to watch.
 
That was just a procession, and I fell asleep somewhere around lap 28 and then woke up with a couple of laps to go when my OH decided to drip cold water on my head - which actually cooled me down.
An absolute borefest.
 
you would have enjoyed it if you were on your yachtt glad handing the rich and glamourous
 
Monaco GP victor Daniel Ricciardo will be hit with multiple grid penalties at the upcoming Canadian GP.

Two weeks after claiming victory in F1's showpiece event despite a crippling loss of power from his Renault engine, the Red Bull driver - third in the world championship behind Lewis Hamilton and Sebastian Vettel - is set to suffer a series of engine-related grid demotions in Montreal.

"Unfortunately, we will be taking penalties," Red Bull chief technical officer Adrian Newey confirmed to Sky Sports News.

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...aniel-ricciardo-to-be-hit-with-grid-penalties
 
Renault also have some improved power units, so Daniel may be getting to use one of those?

Problem for him is he is only allowed 3 power units. If they change for Canada he has then used his entire allocation for the year.

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ICE – internal combustion engine, TC – turbo charger, MGU-H – motor generator unit heat, MGU-K – motor generator unit kinetic, ES – energy store, CE – control electronics

In 2018 F1 season, drivers can use 3 ICE, 3 TC, 3 MGU-H, 2 MGU-K, 2 ES and 2 CE.

https://maxf1.net/en/2018-f1-power-unit-elements-usage/
 
On balance that table suggests this early in the season Renault powertrain users could have big problems before season's end!!
 
I think the Renault users have already decided that they will take the penalties in exchange for more progress in the power unit.

I guess that attitude may change for Ricciardo as he becomes an outside chance for the title, though.
 
2018 FORMULA 1 GRAND PRIX HEINEKEN DU CANADA

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Circuit Gilles-Villeneuve
Lap data
Lap length 4.361km (2.71 miles)
Race laps 70
Race distance 305.27km (189.686 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’13.622 (Rubens Barrichello, 2004)
Fastest lap 1’12.275 (Ralf Schumacher, 2004, qualifying two)
Maximum speed 309kph (192.004 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Pit straight and back straight
Distance from grid to turn one 280m
Full throttle 59%
Longest flat-out section 1190m
Downforce level Medium
Gear changes per lap 50
Fuel use per lap 1.5kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.03s

UK Times
Friday 8th June 2018
Canadian Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 10:00-11:30 (UK time: 15:00-16:30)
Canadian Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 14:00-15:30 (UK time: 19:00-20:30)
Saturday 9th June 2018
Canadian Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 11:00-12:00 (UK time: 16:00-17:00)
Canadian Grand Prix Qualifying: 14:00 (UK time: 19:00)
Sunday 10th June 2018
Canadian Grand Prix: 14:10 (UK time: 19:10)

Previous Winners
2017 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2015 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2014 Australia Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull-Renault
2013 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2012 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2011 United Kingdom Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
2010 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2009 Not held
2008 Poland Robert Kubica BMW Sauber
2007 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2006 Spain Fernando Alonso Renault
2005 Finland Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
2004 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2003 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2002 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2001 Germany Ralf Schumacher Williams-BMW
2000 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari

Videos

Hamilton 2017 on board
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsQMR6KUNE


Button 2004 onboard
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpaFzhHg38M


Facts from the last race
Daniel Ricciardo won the seventh race of his F1 career in Monaco, putting him level with Rene Arnoux and Juan Pablo Montoya in terms of victories.

It was a stand-out weekend for Ricciardo, who also took the second pole position of his career, two years after his first, becoming the 68th F1 driver to start from the front more than once.

He also led every lap of the race, becoming the first driver to do so since Lewis Hamilton beat him to last year’s Singapore Grand Prix victory. Ricciardo has now led more laps this year (90) than Hamilton (84).

Sebastian Vettel has led the most, and has also spent the most laps in second place, which happens to be the same total of 139. Championship leader Hamilton has spent more laps in third place than any other position.

Ricciardo missed out on the fastest lap and therefore a ‘grand slam’ too. However Max Verstappen gave Red Bull their fourth fastest lap of the season. Mercedes took the other two and Ferrari haven’t had one yet.

This was the fourth win for Red Bull in Monte-Carlo and their third scored by an Australian, two of the others coming courtesy of Mark Webber. They also took their fifth Monaco pole, which is more than Mercedes or Renault have.

Ricciardo’s success is an encouraging sign of how competitive F1 is in 2018. After six races three different teams have each scored more than one win. This took until round 15 to happen last year and did not happen at all in 2016, 2015 or 2014.

Ricciardo’s pole position time of 1’10.810 was a new record for the circuit. Last year this track had the fourth-shortest lap of the year in terms of time. With the hyper-softs returning for the Canadian Grand Prix, sub-70 second lap times could be possible at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve.

While Vettel and Hamilton kept up their points-scoring streaks (Hamilton on a record 31), Fernando Alonso failed to add to his points haul for the first time this year. However he remains the only driver who hasn’t been out-qualified by his team mate all year.

Charles Leclerc became the first home driver in the Monaco Grand Prix since Oliver Beretta 24 years earlier. Beretta finished eighth in that race which would have made him a points-scorer today. However Leclerc crashed out with brake failure. His team mate Marcus Ericsson remains the only driver who hasn’t reached Q2 so far this year.

Drivers’ Chosen Tyres
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Championship Standings
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Red Bull Honda coming?

Renault or Honda engines in 2019?

Red Bull are in the final year of their current agreement with Renault and opened talks with Honda about a potential switch last month.

Red Bull will already know precisely how strong the Honda engine is after their junior outfit Toro Rosso took on Japanese engine power for 2019, replacing McLaren in a switch many in the paddock predicted was a precursor to Red Bull following suit.

"We are about a month or so away," team boss Christian Horner said in Monaco. "End of June, beginning of July is the timescale we have always talked about."

And how the Renault engine performs relative to the Honda power unit - with both companies preparing upgrades for Montreal - will be at the crux of the decision.

"We're waiting with great interest to see the relative performance of the two engines in Montreal," confirmed Horner. "It will all depend on the data."

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...nd-can-they-persuade-daniel-ricciardo-to-stay
 
I see RB made a move to put Norris in the STR. Batted back by McLaren though.
 
Not the attitude I would expect to be seeing from Max Crashtappen...

 
Maybe Danny Ricciardo won't need the engine unit replaced.

Ricciardo set to avoid grid penalty in Canada
Daniel Ricciardo’s hopes of a strong result in Canada have been given a welcome boost by the news that he’s set to avoid taking a grid penalty for engine component changes after all…

Earlier this week, Red Bull tech supremo Adrian Newey said that a defective part in the Monaco race winner’s power unit would need replacing and therefore incur an automatic grid drop under F1 rules.

However, Riccardo revealed on Thursday in Montreal that Red Bull can re-use an MGU-K component that was swapped out in China again, and therefore put off a penalty for now.

“Currently no, so no, the answer is no,” said the Australian when asked if he would get a penalty this weekend. “If something happens in practice and we are forced to change something, then I will get a penalty. But for now, we still have enough parts to run, and if it runs reliable we will do the whole weekend with it.”

Ricciardo, a winner in Canada in 2014, said he anticipates a penalty in the near future, potentially as early as the next race in France.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...ardo-set-to-avoid-grid-penalty-in-canada.html
 
At least stroll got crashed into rather than being embarrassed by his slow car, not an eventful race either
 
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