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I saw that which is why I mentioned it.Vid says cheetah stand have redisgned the bracket but it also DIY-able and they're putting out instructions
I saw that which is why I mentioned it.Vid says cheetah stand have redisgned the bracket but it also DIY-able and they're putting out instructions
Vid says cheetah stand have redisgned the bracket but it also DIY-able and they're putting out instructions
Our friend from Cheetah seems to be in sales mode. AD200 one stop less than AD600? That cannot be right and casts doubt on his other figures. How is he testing this? It's really easy with these Godox bare-bulbs heads - all you need is a double-diffuser softbox to collect and project all the light in exactly the same way. Test in the same environment away from reflective surfaces and at closish range like 1m (distance must be identical).
FWIW, based on what I know and have read, I'd estimate the AD200 will match two high-end speedlights like the Canon 600EX-RT very closely, and be a bit more than two third-party equivalents like the Yongnuo 600EX-RT. About 2/3rds of a stop down on the AD360 and about one-and-a-half stops down on the AD600.
He could well be in sales mode but then he's discouraging people to buy the more expensive AD600?
He could well be in sales mode but then he's discouraging people to buy the more expensive AD600?
Link ?Now available on eBay.....
Just type in godox ad200
If you buy fit for £267 and have to pay £30+ in duties you are only a few pounds short of UK dealer price - the difference? A warranty, I know which I will be buying!
Production run has not started as far as I know
Mike
Who IS the Godox dealer in the UK? I'm really interested in a 2x 200 and 2x 600 outfit.
Who IS the Godox dealer in the UK? I'm really interested in a 2x 200 and 2x 600 outfit.
Official Godox is Photomart, rebadged (so also official) Essentialphoto, Lencarta, Calumet - no dealer carries the complete range as far as I am awareWho IS the Godox dealer in the UK? I'm really interested in a 2x 200 and 2x 600 outfit.
Thanks chaps! Just need to find one that'll honour a warranty just in case!
Sorry my reply was a little vague - that's why I want to buy from a UK shop, not an EBay vendor. Can only seem to find them at Essential so far, though.UK shops/suppliers have to it's the law, and if they didn't they would soon be going out of business
Who IS the Godox dealer in the UK? I'm really interested in a 2x 200 and 2x 600 outfit.
Godox have, for several years, stated that none of their products can be sold for less than a price that they have specified. Leaving aside the legality of forcing retailers to sell at a minimum price, the idea behind that is that ebay etc sellers cannot sell at cut prices and provide unfair competition to real businesses (which of course ignores the fact that the real businesses have to pay VAT, and also pay taxes on their profits). But they seem to have done nothing to actually enforce this in the past, with the result that they have enjoyed very high sales from dodgy sellers but reputable sellers haven't been able to compete on price.If you buy fit for £267 and have to pay £30+ in duties you are only a few pounds short of UK dealer price - the difference? A warranty, I know which I will be buying!
Production run has not started as far as I know
Mike
As I'm now retired I don't speak for Lencarta, but my advice to them is to steer clear of the AD200 untilThe real question is, who will fix it if it goes wrong or you have an accident?
The former, a manufacturing fault, should be covered by warranty but it's not clear (at least, not to me) if that means the dealer will simply replace faulty items, or if it gets shipped off in a slow boat back to Godox in China.
But what about accident damage? Who has the service and repair facilities in the UK, the qualified technicians with spare parts available? This is important, as location flash units have a hard life at the best of times and a nasty habit of smashing to the ground in the wind. These products are not £60 speedlites that are cheaper to simply replace than repair, but expensive pro-spec gear costing hundreds of pounds that can't be out of use for more than a week or two at most.
China is not an option, and this is the problem with a business model that bypasses the normal official/solus distributor network - great prices, but no support. I'm probably not alone in hoping someone like Lencarta might fill the void but it might be difficult to make the sums add up.
Essential Photo (Pixapro) are getting them in March, not the price I would of expected though a bit pricey, but you are getting a 2 year warranty from them
Link https://www.essentialphoto.co.uk/product/pixapro-pika200-portable-battery-powered-ttl-mini-flash/
Big discounts from Essential thenT.G. come along to the photography show, it will be worth a visit
Do try to keep up TerryBig discounts from Essential then
I'm not at all sure that the AD200 will be a game changer - what exactly does it offer that existing products don't?
As I explained in the AD200 thread (to which you added your comment immediately after me) Godox have now started to enforce their retail price management system, which means that no re-seller, anywhere in the world, can now sell their products for less than their "recommended" price.
Which means that everyone at the show who sells Godox products is almost certain to sell them for exactly the same price (the minimum allowed). Anyone who tries to undercut that price will be in breach of that agreement and will be at very serious risk of losing their supplier.
Frankly, anyone in this country who provides a genuine warranty and who wants to sell at less than the Godox "recommended" price is stark staring bonkers anyway because, apart from the cost of warranty, the profit margin takes no account of
1. 20% VAT
2. The effective devaluation of the £, which is another 20%
Let's be clear about this - Godox prices are NOT cheap (except for their softboxes, small accessories etc), au contrair they are extremely expensive. What has, until now, been cheap is the retail prices, driven by online sellers who offer no after sales care, who pay no taxes and who, until the Brexit vote at least, have bought in USD and sold in both EU and £, getting a fair exchange rate for the £. That is now history, I think it must be true to say that no retailer who bought pre-Brexit now has stock bought at the old exchange rate.
Looking forward, if our government keeps their promise and forces foreign sellers selling into this country to pay the VAT and customs duty that's due, Godox (and other) products will disappear from ebay and amazon.
I'm not at all sure that the AD200 will be a game changer - what exactly does it offer that existing products don't?
Do try to keep up Terry
Do try to keep up Terry
See my thread above, also see this this post
First light to offer both a fresnel and a proper bulb head for starters (correct me if I am wrong).
500 shots from that little battery for seconds
Part of a now large fully integrated TTL system also springs to mind (obviously can all be used in manual)
I belong to number of forums and groups and the AD200 is talked about like nothing else I have ever seen before
Certainly an answer for those that want more power in a smaller form factor and are not interested in a studio style light, will definitely affect sales of the AD360 and I reckon that it will also affect sales of the AD600
For me it fills a gap that we did not even know exists
Might not change the game but will certainly modify it IMHO but time will tell
Mike
So am I the only person who has read the 'scuttlebutt', advertising blurb & manual, had a think about where and when I'd actually use this product in place of my current set-up and come to the conclusion that I'm completely uninterested...
Paul
So am I the only person who has read the 'scuttlebutt', advertising blurb & manual, had a think about where and when I'd actually use this product in place of my current set-up and come to the conclusion that I'm completely uninterested...
Paul
On a youtube vid guy said it will only do 50 full power pops