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With the weather here you could just sit it outside on the window sill!Oops. Accidentally ordered the 3 pack. Hope it's got a very long expiry Might pop it straight into the freezer...
With the weather here you could just sit it outside on the window sill!Oops. Accidentally ordered the 3 pack. Hope it's got a very long expiry Might pop it straight into the freezer...
My daughter ordered 5 earlier today from them, lets hope it is worth itNow up on Analogue Wonderland at £13 per roll
Harman Phoenix - 35mm Film
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or £60 for 5
Apparently not when cross processed as E6, this chap (Shala1277) speculates that technically it might have a close similarity to slide film.I'm put off by the description that said it was grainy…
In the grainydays review the two Harman R&D chaps he spoke to they indicated that they had a number of issues they wanted to work on.Watched a few reviews yesterday - On one hand i'm not impressed with the halation, grain and contrast.. but it's freaking awesome they've created a new film, from scratch and sound committed in the long term of develop this further... so at least of the basis of offering some support I will buy a roll or 3
I reckon they will do 120 once the recipe has settled down
As far as Harman is concerned this probably isn't an option. They only have the right to use the Ilford name for black and white so I'm guessing that the rights and intellectual property in the old Ilford colour films went to the other Ilford (Iford Imaging) when Ilford went into receivership in 2004. They will have some C41 knowledge from the XP2 film (black and white but developed using the C41 process) but will need to start anew on the colour couplers side. Phoenix 200 is the first step, and by all accounts a very good effort given the short timescale in which it was developed, but Harman seem committed to continuing to develop it and more power to them.I've shot a ton of the old films, why not just improve or re=release the old films? It seems to be re-inventing the wheel only square. I cant see the point of making a film that seems to be (and to be fair I've not tried it) worse than the old films.
I think for some people the grain could be a feature as it is obviously film rather than digital.I wonder how many of the early buyers are concerned about grain?
I know my daughter isn't, she would use Kodak Gold if she was, and it costs less!
I may get one of her rolls to try
I liked the examples in the reviews by Shaka1277 and Shoot Film Like a Boss. Looking forward to trying it out once I'm through my winter supply of 12 rolls of Vision 500T and can mix up another batch of C41 chemicals.I watched Matt Marrash's review and examples, and whilst it doesn't look that great, I like the experimental and analogue feel of it. I'm looking forward to giving it a go soon as it arrives in one of my Spotmatics.
Edited to add: Matt did say that because the film base is different to other films, lab scans are going to come out rather badly due to compensating for that, so it should be sent to labs who have been prepared for that (AW, AG are two I know of here).
Yes, I know Silverpan have done a lot of work as regards getting the scanning right. It's worth reading about it on their web site.I watched Matt Marrash's review and examples, and whilst it doesn't look that great, I like the experimental and analogue feel of it. I'm looking forward to giving it a go soon as it arrives in one of my Spotmatics.
Edited to add: Matt did say that because the film base is different to other films, lab scans are going to come out rather badly due to compensating for that, so it should be sent to labs who have been prepared for that (AW, AG are two I know of here).
As for colour, grain and halation, well I've been rethinking what film photography is for recently. When film or analogue photography was just called Photography as there was only one type of photography people strove for the sharpest, cleanest most true to life results. Today a digital image is super sharp, super clean and super fast. The film resurgence is being led mostly by the younger generation (18-34 year olds), at least according to my YT audience stats. I'm sure they all have mega camera phones and maybe even modern digital cameras (indeed I see a lot of creativity in the digital field from young people, largely driven by an explosion in low cost music production). These young people don't have the frame of reference we, older, people do. So maybe the modern niche for film photography is super emotive, super arty and super creative. In that space grain, halation and all the rest of it may be advantages.
That would be my guess too, and looks like the 'other' Ilford aren doing much with the IP.…and where the intellectual property went - to Harman or Ilford after the split. I suspect the latter, given the restriction of the Ilford name.
My inference from the podcast interview was that there is significant resistance from Ilford to allow Harman to use their brand name for anything with the word "colour" in it. I get the impression that the Ilford name is solely to be used in connection with black & white. The marketing lady on there wanted to use Ilford socials to get the word out, but they couldn't and had to do it under the Harman brand - which is significantly "under-followed". Take of that what you will!That would be my guess too, and looks like the 'other' Ilford aren doing much with the IP
I've seen a definite reference that Harman are only licensed to use the Ilford name for black and white.My inference from the podcast interview was that there is significant resistance from Ilford to allow Harman to use their brand name for anything with the word "colour" in it. I get the impression that the Ilford name is solely to be used in connection with black & white. The marketing lady on there wanted to use Ilford socials to get the word out, but they couldn't and had to do it under the Harman brand - which is significantly "under-followed". Take of that what you will!
Pop them in the freezer, break out in 20 years time and sell for £30 a roll.
Possibly to use the customer as their testers and save them money (I should have said I was a cynic!)Well I've watched a few videos, and frankly I'm slightly puzzled. I know it's great to have any new films, but... why is it grainy and contrasty, and why the clear base. Film tech had reached a pretty decent level back in the day. I've shot a ton of the old films, why not just improve or re=release the old films? It seems to be re-inventing the wheel only square. I cant see the point of making a film that seems to be (and to be fair I've not tried it) worse than the old films..
I guess I'm missing something?