robbed buy the tmo, blind t***.
you wasn't the tmo was you.Debatable, close but video ref said no.
Even if the decision went with us it would have made no difference to the result.robbed buy the tmo, blind t***.
But hey ho, that's the way it goes. Had the ref said to the TMO " try yes or no" then we would have been awarded it and the outcome might have been different.
It would - or at least could - have made a difference, surely? Wales lost by 6, and a converted try is worth 7.
It would - or at least could - have made a difference, surely? Wales lost by 6, and a converted try is worth 7.
This is ironic though. Last week I commented that there's this rules crisis in the NFL, to the extent that even experienced commentators are saying they don't know what counts as a catch these days. I wonder whether there's a similar issue in rugby now?
Here's what I see from the video. The ball is on the ground. Anscombe's hand is in contact with the ball. So is that a try? I don't know. There was never a stage where Anscombe had control of the ball. I don't think he applied downward pressure, though I understand that's not required now. I don't think he grounded it, which I understand is the current requirement, and anyway I don't see how that's any different from applying downward pressure. All I think happened was that there was a brief instant where the ball was in contact with the ground and Anscombe's hand was in contact with the ball. Is that a try? I don't know. Does anybody know?
Off to Murrayfield today, I hope to christ its better than last weekend....
The 2 for the conversion is not a given though....
you wasn't the tmo was you.
He touched the ball, didn't ground it though, wasn't in control, whereas the england player had two hands grounding it millisecs later?
Difficult one.
How come it wasn't a knock on off his knee?
He touched the ball, didn't ground it though, wasn't in control, whereas the england player had two hands grounding it millisecs later?
Difficult one.
How come it wasn't a knock on off his knee?
Definition of grounding is: (the ball must be touching the player when coming into contact with the ground) in the opposition's in-goal area (on or behind the goal line).
http://laws.worldrugby.org/?law=21GROUNDING THE BALL
1. The ball can be grounded in in-goal:
a. By holding it and touching the ground with it; or
b. By pressing down on it with a hand or hands, arm or arms, or the front of the player’s body from waist to neck.
I though the ball had to be "under control"? While there was definitely contact with the ball behind the line, there was no control (IMO).
This now doing the rounds on Youtube, if its genuine Hartley should be banned for life.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXqVTbY4EfQ&feature=share
But........TMO's decision is final. Pick up the ball and play on.
Yup! Couldn't agree more.
However, I think he got it right - that video shows the ball moving away from any possible control (IMO).
Yup! Couldn't agree more.
However, I think he got it right - that video shows the ball moving away from any possible control (IMO).
Clearly spits on the ground!
I'm not well up on the rules of Union but, in League, that's a definite try.
That pic shows possible lateral pressure, not downward.
I sincerely hope you are right.
Result for Scotland, although a little lucky I reckon.
Ok so we've got to the bottom of the try/no try. Can anyone explain why it wasn't a knock forward off his knee/leg?
DEFINITION: KNOCK-ON. A knock-on occurs when a player loses possession of the ball and it goes forward, or when a player hits the ball forward with the hand or arm, or when the ball hits the hand or arm and goes forward, and the ball touches the ground or another player before the original player can catch it.