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I'm not so sure I really want to touch the whole festering boil that's M240 vs M9 image quality
but if I purposefully underexpose a little in camera and set a custom WB I'm not sure they're a million miles apart
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The other thing said of course is that "people come out with tomato faces and it can't be fixed"
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Again, I'm not convinced, although that took more PP that it might have done with the m9 (although it's iso 1250 so gawd knows how it would have come out on the m9!!)
this is iso 3200 (max until you reach the push values)
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there's zero NR applied to this (and a rather optimistic 40/0.7/65/20 sharpening setting as I applied that to a bunch of base iso images and this one slipped though!!) and no edits except a custom WB, because indoor yellow lighting..
I don't present these images as proof of anything or even anything other than snaps just to test my new cam in different scenarios... but so far I'm not seeing anything that makes me think 'uh-oh.. what have I bought...'
Which is a good thing
Good examples there Adam, maybe the opener of another long blog articleand finally...
because I'm getting bored, so lord knows how you all feel!
Here's a selection of throw away crap, that is straight as imported into LR (my import setting is basically more sharpening, zero NR, the adobe lens profile and the embedded camera profile) with zero additional edits (no WB, shadow recovery etc)
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Sure if these were in any way keepers we'd edit them!
But this is what I'm getting straight out of the box, and it's really not a million miles off the m9 in feel and vibe (even if not the exact colour profile and tone curve)
In case it's of interest.. I'm liking more the embedded profile and I tend to run it -0.3 EV in bright light
Oh and to the other M9 owners...
The M240 has 2meter framelines! Fk man the 35 ones look like a 28 in there!!!!
hi PaulGood examples there Adam, maybe the opener of another long blog article
I have never had a view in the M9 v M240 sensor thing, when I came to Leica I went M9 because I liked the fact it still had a brightframe window so looked like a Leica. I read lots about the "filmic" look of the M9 compared to the 240 and M10 and of course the poor high ISO capability of the M9 but I was used to the Fujifilm X-Pro1 and rarely went above 800 ISO anyway so I dipped my toe in with the M9 and was enamored enough to get another 2. I toyed with the idea of an M240P for the ability to use live view for landscapes with grad filters, polarisers etc but in the end didn't bother. I also had a play with 2 of the M10 variants on my one and only Leica store visit in London recently but chose not to bother. In the end I resolved that my M9s fit the bill of general photography/travel/documentary (and fit it well for me) when travelling for that I will take my Fujifilm X-T2 along for landscape/low light/bad weather etc so have all bases covered. For landscape specific trips I use my GFX 50S and take the X-T2 as back up/recce camera but still pack 1 M9 with 35mm Summicron for carry around.
Apologies for the long winded ramble but I suppose what I am really saying really is that one size doesn't fit all.
Not sure about that one.hi Paul
it sounds that you have everything covered with the cameras you do have, especially the 50s for the landscape work
i think that in core functionality all the Ms are basically a muchness, sure the 10 offers more than 240 or the 9, but if one has non-L cameras that are better suited to specific tasks then the lure of the newest shiniest M dulls quickly
well.. yes, but the sonys for example offer even better iso and dynamic range or even a completely silent shutterNot sure about that one.
Off course cost comes into it but the M10 series is now the pinnacle of M bodies, both in terms of physical size for the long term (ie film camera owners) and technology in terms of much better ISO performance, touch screen, quiet shutter (M-10P), performance overall and tricks such as connecting WiFi and such like.
I do find the size thing an odd one I have to say, compared to my M6 it’s almost the same dimensional size - I think the M10-P is a smidge bigger, but I think this corresponds more to M6TTL/M7 size, but that is totally negated by the weight difference. The M6 fits perfectly in hand and balances beautifully, whereas the M10 is just so much heavier (obviously given what’s in it, I don’t feel it’s such a balanced camera in hand.
I have to say I thought hard about an older M, but all things told the small updates add up to one big update.
I plan on keeping my M-10P for a long, long time and the only way for me was the P. Of course, it’s a big investment but even over let’s say 10 years of ownership, which I would expect to be reasonable for the camera it works out at a reasonable annual investment.
I know that the bloke is popping down to do something... but he could be really drunk....
I've only had it a week, so there's plenty of things I've yet to discover!So you find that it tends to shoot slow too ? I tried to set the limiting speed to 1/30 (or 1/60) but it seemd to tend to use the iso priority and ignore my speed request on auto...
Feel and handling I like (although I tend to miss the focus without the evf, on 50mm, focussing on the eye, got the ear in focus... looked ok on the screen though....)
thank youNice pics
Yeah I found it over exposed a lot. Try changing the exposure from classic to digital, I think it helps a bit although the weird iso trying to be as high as possible sometimes creeps in.
A manual or some said it calculates the classic via the grey stripes, and digital it takes well dunno... 'cause the sensor isnt exposed. I tried the hald press to lock exposures but that didnt seem to work. Manually selecting iso to 200 with light/sun seems to be ok, with a -1/3 on exposure... still gets it wrong sometimes... a second quick shot adjusting the speed with fixed iso can do the trick.
Careful with the iso on 'last used' option, as that gets weird...