I think the G9 is an ugly camera. Nice sharp edges on the pentaprism hump to get rubbed and add de-value to the unit. Good for bringing it down to my price leval I suppose.
On the plus side there seems to be lots of different ways to change the focus method. I must be missing something as that's one of the least altered settings on my G6!
And a seperate white balance button? Really? I set mine ONCE dependant upon location and unless that changes or there's a MAJOR chage of light, that's it for the session.
Now a dedicated shooting speed button or even better a lever for instant show, that would be usefull especialy with the super high 20 and 60 fps modes on this model.
Figures on paper might be better, but the way it interfaces with us hasn't got any better since the old Canon T90 days! (Or even my old SpottyF). Progress eh?
Looks like it's try Harding to be an XT-2 crossed with a D90 nothing original about it's design at least.
Styling perhaps, let's see the actual specs before saying its design isn't original.
I'm specifically talking about the cosmetic design, clearly. It doesn't interest me no matter the specs, because I can't afford it I am pondering on a used G80 though. More in my price range and has about all I'd need technically.
Me neither at the rumoured price, unless you have a spare kidney I can sell LOL. You could do a lot, lot worse than get a G80. Panasonic are doing £100 cashback on them just now, so you might find that pushes the price a lot closer to used levels.
Simon.
I'm torn between the G80 and the Oly em10 mk II [which would allow me an extra lens] - didn't think it would be such a hard decision so I'm taking my time with it. The articulating screen and 4K vid are tempting, I also like to have a more pronounced grip. But the main reason for me looking to M43 at all is the stabilization, and afaik it'll be as good in either.
Do you do any thing that needs AFC,if so it has to be the G80 preferably with Panasonic lenses, i have had both so i know its true, just bought back in though and don't need AFC so bought the EM10MK11.
I do shoot birds in the garden through the winter, but they will be flying about feeders so not much need to worry about serious tracking. I've been shooting them using manual focus for a long time. I never shoot sports or action really.
Do you do any thing that needs AFC,if so it has to be the G80 preferably with Panasonic lenses, i have had both so i know its true, just bought back in though and don't need AFC so bought the EM10MK11.
So the g9 is official, £1499 at park cameras
200mm f2.8 is £2699 including the 1.4x converter in the box
Interesting. What do you think this might offer over a diopter?I've just had a quick look at it on DPR and one thing I think is a great idea is being able to step the magnification down when using the EVF, this is a great idea for people wearing glasses and I wonder if this is the first time this feature has been offered?
They're different things.Interesting. What do you think this might offer over a diopter?
I've just had a quick look at it on DPR and one thing I think is a great idea is being able to step the magnification down when using the EVF, this is a great idea for people wearing glasses and I wonder if this is the first time this feature has been offered?
It looks like they've redesigned the grip and I hope it's more comfortable than I found the G7 which was the most uncomfortable SLR style camera I've ever used.
The G9 does look like a lovely camera but I doubt very much that I'll buy one as I have a GX7 (mainly because it seems unsellable) and a GX80 and from what I've seen of the 20mp cameras so far any image quality improvement over the later 16mp ones is IMO negligible. Good luck to Panny though, I hope the camera sells well.
Just on that top display though... I can't see the point of it and TBH I'd rather it wasn't there at all. Is anyone happy to see it and desperate for a top display?
I dont recall an evf with the ability to change magnification, it's a great addition. Listening to the comments on the grip, I would expect it to feel more comfortable than the gh5, I liked the grip on the gh5, but did feel it could be improved.
I quite like the top display. It means I can keep the rear screen fairly uncluttered, but still see the shooting settings (and presumably battery level, shots remaining etc.) at a glance.Just on that top display though... I can't see the point of it and TBH I'd rather it wasn't there at all. Is anyone happy to see it and desperate for a top display?
I’ll preface what follows by saying I’ve no funds to spend on cameras just now, so an upgrade in any direction is currently out on the question for me.
On paper, the G9 looks like a serious bit of kit. However, it’s clear it’s targeted at sports and wildlife photographers (it’s all about speed after all), and these are two areas I shoot the least of all. I still remain to be convinced about how well it will perform using AF-C in the real world (ie not stage managed tests). The dual pixel high res mode also appears limited to a minimum shutter speed of 1 second, which makes it next to useless for 80-90% of the landscape stuff I shoot before considering any limitations of movement in the frame. There seems to have been significant improvement in JPEG output (another nod to its intended market?) but it remains to be seen how much better dynamic range, noise and IQ is in raw. It’s also priced at £1500 body only, and is on the large side for a m4/3 body. I don’t mind the size per se, but it does bring it closer to equivalent DSLRs, and in that price bracket it has serious competition from both DSLRs and other mirrorless offerings.
So for me, my upgrade path from my current GX8 is anything but clear and it would be remiss of me not to look at other systems (EM1 mk II, A7 mk II, Fuji XT-2, D750, D500, 80D, 6D, 6D mk II etc.). I’ve not mentioned the G80, as it is limited in bulb exposure mode to 2 minutes. Having said that, I love my GX8 and the Panasonic UI which makes the camera a joy to use, and my current Olympus lenses are just stellar. I also am fully aware of the potential weight gain in lenses for some of those systems.
The upgrade path will be a tough choice. Thankfully, I have time on my hands which will be particularly useful to see actual real world use of the G9 in the coming weeks and months.
Simon.
Do you think we will see a upgraded GX9, for me if i had the money i would jump at the G9, well after i see some reports and have handled one, i dont expect it to live up to the hype after all what does.
Not too bothered about it being larger so long as its not too heavy.
I know there will be a market for the G9 but surely the whole point of micro four thirds was just that, you know, micro, less weight, small etc, i know for me if it's not a job then i much prefer to grab my small camera's when i head out than lug my full size kite around, looking at the specs of that, plus when you add a few lenses, imo you may as well get a DSLR.
I enjoy wildlife photography, so was quite excited ready the specs (I also can't afford one!!), but then I saw the weight!!! The G9 is 658g compared to the 505g of the G80. I know 153g doesn't sound a heck of a lot, but when you have RA it really will make a huge difference and so it really won't be for me. As you say Simon, we are talking more DSLR size and weight, which isn't why I went down the m4/3 route.
Having said all of that I am perfectly happy with my G80 and have learned to accept any compromises which isn't easy when your husband has a Nikon D500 which is stellar! However, with a little bit of PP if I need to use higher ISO's my output is great in my eyes!!
Fair point Gary, but what I was saying is that for me what with having Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus, the extra weight of the G9 in comparison to the G80 will make a big difference to me with regard to pain, and actually being able to handle. My husband has a D500 and I struggle to be able to lift it with no lens on.Compared with Nikon D300 at 820g and a D500 at 860g. Still seems significantly lighter to me and has already been stated the lenses make a big difference?
lol is that why your nick is wellybootFair point Gary, but what I was saying is that for me what with having Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus, the extra weight of the G9 in comparison to the G80 will make a big difference to me with regard to pain, and actually being able to handle. My husband has a D500 and I struggle to be able to lift it with no lens on.
I must apologise for writing a post thinking only of myself and health issues when for a normal healthy person the small weight difference would be incosequential. I'm sorry if my post upset anyone, but I really wasn't, and I am still not, moaning about my health, but just stating something factual.
As always I have put my foot in it! Sorry again.
I agree as a fellow sufferer. I sold my Nikon D7000 for the same reason. I now use a Panasonic GX7, GX80, GM5 (my hiking camera) and an Olympus Em10 Mk 2 (nice big dials when my hands are really bad). M4/3 brings back the enjoyment of photography. Incidentally I don't see why you should have upset anyone - It was a very valid point.Fair point Gary, but what I was saying is that for me what with having Rheumatoid Arthritis and Lupus, the extra weight of the G9 in comparison to the G80 will make a big difference to me with regard to pain, and actually being able to handle. My husband has a D500 and I struggle to be able to lift it with no lens on.
I must apologise for writing a post thinking only of myself and health issues when for a normal healthy person the small weight difference would be incosequential. I'm sorry if my post upset anyone, but I really wasn't, and I am still not, moaning about my health, but just stating something factual.
As always I have put my foot in it! Sorry again.