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.... and moving onto the next argument; what is the best way to polish a turd?
Spray it with liquid nitrogen and then electroplate it...
.... and moving onto the next argument; what is the best way to polish a turd?
They dont ask for a VAT receipt or any proof of purchase when purchasing equipment, they are simply covering themselves in case of litigation in their terms and conditions.
At the end of the day all of this scaremongering and nonsense about grey imports along with tons of incorrect assumptions is of no use to anyone. The consumer needs to know the facts of the matter when purchasing and that is simple , the equipment itself is no different. You may get a foreign plug and have to change the menus to English but that's about it.
To claim the equipment is somehow of lesser value at a later date because it was originally brought into a country and the correct VAT not paid is a nonsense, the equipment holds exactly the same value later as the same equipment brought in with VAT paid. It is only at the time of their entry and original purchase that those prices may differ.
They dont ask for a VAT receipt or any proof of purchase when purchasing equipment, they are simply covering themselves in case of litigation in their terms and conditions.
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At the end of the day all of this scaremongering and nonsense about grey imports along with tons of incorrect assumptions is of no use to anyone. The consumer needs to know the facts of the matter when purchasing and that is simple , the equipment itself is no different. You may get a foreign plug and have to change the menus to English but that's about it.
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(assuming in both cases that you are honest about its provenance)
You may get a foreign plug and have to change the menus to English but that's about it.
They dont ask for a VAT receipt or any proof of purchase when purchasing equipment, they are simply covering themselves in case of litigation in their terms and conditions.
At the end of the day all of this scaremongering and nonsense about grey imports along with tons of incorrect assumptions is of no use to anyone. The consumer needs to know the facts of the matter when purchasing and that is simple , the equipment itself is no different. You may get a foreign plug and have to change the menus to English but that's about it.
To claim the equipment is somehow of lesser value at a later date because it was originally brought into a country and the correct VAT not paid is a nonsense, the equipment holds exactly the same value later as the same equipment brought in with VAT paid. It is only at the time of their entry and original purchase that those prices may differ.
Just to add even more confirmation to Petes post.
I emailed MPB and asked if they would buy grey stock, they replied saying no, they will not.
ermm lol of course they would say that if you rang and told them !
ermm lol of course they would say that if you rang and told them !
ermm lol of course they would say that if you rang and told them !
MPB do not ask for grey details i have sold many items to them and its of no concern , neither would it be if i bought one as MPB guarantee their products themselves so there is no issue.
If your going to sell something on and are daft enough to tell someone you got it cheap in the first place then there really is no help for you.
If your going to sell something on and are daft enough to tell someone you got it cheap in the first place then there really is no help for you.
?unethical and borderline fraudulent behaviour
I've bookmarked you just in case you advertise in the classifieds.
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I think the fact that MPB are trying to pay less for identical equipment which is out of warantee anyway is the unethical part , that's simply taking the p*** out of people selling.
You have to ask yourself why they are asking you if its grey and where you got it from ?
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I think the fact that MPB are trying to pay less for identical equipment which is out of warantee anyway is the unethical part , that's simply taking the p*** out of people selling.
Lol ! , fortunately as my kits all business purchases its all purchased here anyway at full price,.....
I was joking btw.
Presumably your kit, bought for business use, would enable you to claim the VAT back, so no point in you purchasing grey?
Lol i know. No i cant claim vat back on grey
When my friend bought the HDEW 5D3 i checked it out for him and the repair centre they use is in Glasgow ! ( canon authorised ) though so i think the disadvantages of grey goods are fast dissapearing.
One thing I don't understand about the differential between Grey and UK retailed cameras is that most of the manufacturers have none transferable warranty so if you are buying a Grey or a 2nd hand UK supplied Camera within its warranty period they will both have the same warranty - ie None so why is the price/value different - its only the original owner who benefits from the warranty!
Personally I find this distinction between Grey and UK supplied cameras a bit strange - the only real issue is the duty and tax payable on a grey and even that can have been paid from some of the HK suppliers.
because (as we may have mentioned once or twice) its not about the warranty (the reputable grey dealers offer their own warranty anyway) , its about
a) the purchase price new / the comparable purchase price of a new one - I'm not going to buy your xxD for £800 if its grey stock and new ones are going for £825 , however I might if its Uk stock a new ones are going for £1000 (all prices made up for examples sake)
b) the other issues that can attend grey purchases - such as non UK plugs on chargers (illegal tosell in the uk), litterature in foreign languages, menu s ditto - and so forth
Bottom line greys cost less new so they also cost less second hand - QED (incidentally which HK suppliers provide a full (not misdeclared) accoiunting of the VAT ? I can only think of HDEW who are essentially UK based anyway)
hmmm id like to see evidence of that!Not to mention some manufacturers wouldn't touch grey (Sigma IIRC) even post warranty if the owner couldn't produce proof of original duty/vat having been paid.
I have had a grey Tokina lens that needed repair and Kenro based in Swindon (The UK Tokina importer) flat refused to even look at it - I even offered to take the lens to them myself and pay cash up front for any repairs.hmmm id like to see evidence of that!
hmmm id like to see evidence of that!
Ok I'm convinced but staggered but to be fair its not a distributors place to be asking a customer if they'd paid import duty to vat on it. What would happen if you bought a lens abroad paid the duty on entering the country but couldn't lay your hands on the paperwork. Personally i'd tell them to mind their own business as they are a supplier not HMRC.
Not sure about other makes but Nikon have different serial number ranges for different countries (certainly for USA) and when they book it in they check serial numbers to make sure its for the right market (although they seem to have relaxed that with the current D750 issues stating its a global recall)
I was up front with Kenro about my Tokina lens and said it was grey to start with - not sure what they would have said if I'd tried to blag it
Are you telling me if you hadn't said up front that the lens was grey that they'd have asked for an invoice and proof the duty was paid? they could ask you for proof of purchase but the vat and duty as got nothing to do with them as its the owners problem.