Why?please recommend a new body or kit as I feel it's time to upgrade my canon 450d.
Seconded. Why?Why?
(serious question, your answer is relevant to knowing what might fit your needs.. as would knowing your needs, rather than your kit list.. your current kit list isn't that relevant, lenses can be sold..)
OK, assuming that "wildlife" doesn't mean "small birds on the wing, flying erratically", none of that is particularly demanding camera-wise. I would expect your 450D to be able to cope quite comfortably, but of course it doesn't do video. So to my mind the obvious upgrade would be to the 600D or a newer model in the 3-digit range. That will give you a camera that feels very similar to the one you have now, but with HD video, more pixels, better low-light capability, better autofocus, and an articulated screen on the back.I like taking photos of my family, (candid/ portrait)
have 1 5yo and 2 x 9 yo. I also enjoy taking photos of landscapes, plants/flowers. Wildlife, architecture.
Would also like ability to be able to record video too.
That's easy then.Budget is not really an issue.
Lens.Our house backs on to a large forest so would like to be able to catch birds and the odd fox and rabbit.
Lens.Also we now have a yearly air show with excellent views from my back garden.
Lens. Lighting. Tripod.Also need to be able to take product shots of items we sell. Mobile phones, laptops, pcs, computer parts etc.
as above really you would get more value from upgrading your glass 1st. is there anything on your camera that is limiting you at the moment? and what?Around 1k but can be more or less. Don't mind second hand if it's enough discount to have no warranty
that should help the guys who know the more modern bodies advise youIt's quite slow to focus and doesn't do video.
It's quite slow to focus and doesn't do video.
I haven't done any video yet as i can't on my 450d.
Assuming that you want to stick to crop body then that would suggest the 77d, or a used 7D-II. These also have the advantage of much higher MP allowing you to crop more which is useful for wildlife, and also product photography. However, as good as the performance of the 7D-II is the sensor does let it down a touch, and as alluded to earlier your final image 'might' not be quite as good as one of the other new crop bodies. Technique (including lighting) will play far more of a part in this though.
As mentioned glass is important. For wildlife and airshows 70-200mm probably isn't enough reach, even on crop body so I would be looking at getting something longer. The 100-400mm is pretty expensive and out of budget new, therefore I'd seriously consider the Tamron 150-600mm VC or the Sigma 150-60mm C. I've not looked around but it might be possible to pick up a used 77D and 150-600mm just slightly over budget. For family and product shots the 50mm should be absolutely fine. For landscape the 18-55mm should be OK for now, and if you find that you do a lot maybe upgrade at a later date. Of course, if you do more landscape than wildlife/airshows then maybe look at upgrading that first. That being said, the 18-55m at f8-11 should give pretty decent results.
the 80d is very good, if you combined that with a sigma or Tamron 150-600mm you would have a great set up. the 80 is supposed to be good for video as well but for that lens and body its well over your budgetI do have flash and tripods already.
I don't mind spending a bit over budget especially on a lens as I would plan to keep for a long time.
I'll just need lens and body.
Is there any reason no one has suggested 80d ?
What he said. It's a very good camera but if you also want to get a wildlife lens such as a 150-600mm you'll be considerably over your budget.the 80d is very good, if you combined that with a sigma or Tamron 150-600mm you would have a great set up. the 80 is supposed to be good for video as well but for that lens and body its well over your budget
thats a good deal with the cash backJust found 80d about the same price as 77d
Amazon have it new with 18-55 is stm lens for ££949.99 + £80 cash back after £869.99
77d body on its own is £829.99
That's a very big deal though.Is there any reason no one is mentioning the 800D rather than the 77D ... as I understand it the only real differences are in handling with the 77D offering the top panel LCD....
7d mkii is £999 brand new after cash back and discount from Jessops
Can't find a used one much cheaper.
What are pros and cons on sigma vs tamron?
None, you're splitting hairs between them in terms of performance and IQ. You do get the advantage of being able to use the SIgma dock with theirs which is a handy little thing. Tamron have brought a dock out now too but it's only compatible with their new G2 150-600mm and that's still pretty expensive at the mo.7d mkii is £999 brand new after cash back and discount from Jessops
Can't find a used one much cheaper.
What are pros and cons on sigma vs tamron?
That's a good price. It's £1249 in most shops. But Jessops, WEx and Park Cameras are currently offering a £125 discount, plus Canon are offering £125 cash back, making £999 net.7d mkii is £999 brand new after cash back and discount from Jessops
Agreed, which is why used ones aren't much cheaper at the mo, and neither are grey. Good time to buy a shiny new 7D-II at the moThat's a good price. It's £1249 in most shops. But Jessops, WEx and Park Cameras are currently offering a £125 discount, plus Canon are offering £125 cash back, making £999 net.