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Personally i think it is bad taste to post those pictures here.
I don't.
Personally i think it is bad taste to post those pictures here.
It's not the CAA investigating this, why would they? They don't investigate air crashes.Yes because the CAA regularly check Talk Photography of course. I'm not saying they're not of use to the authorities - Just no need for them to be posted here for people to gawp at.
My opinion, of course, and I'm not going to get drawn into a further argument.
I do not believe for a moment that the OP was acting in bad taste by posting his pictures ... (you cannot see people dying, only wreckage and smoke) and they are nothing other than a wide record of a tragic event. To suggest otherwise makes no sense.
Personally i think it is bad taste to post those pictures here. Nobody needs to see over a dozen people dying.
I'd just like to end my post by saying my thoughts are with everyone affected by the weekends tragic events.
Harry.
Personally i think it is bad taste to post those pictures here. Nobody needs to see over a dozen people dying.
Harry.
Yes because the CAA regularly check Talk Photography of course. I'm not saying they're not of use to the authorities - Just no need for them to be posted here for people to gawp at.
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Gawp? I've been on this forum enough years to give the people here more credit than that Harry. I believe these photographs were shared with the authorities, the OP has not acted irresponsibly in any way - far from it. Why must we sugarcoat everything in order to protect the fragile sensibilities of the public? I have seen some footage taken immediately after the crash right on the very scene by the first people who arrived - they were filming it because they knew the footage could be helpful to the investigation - they were checking cars to see if they could do anything for any survivors, these were not filmed close-up and when approached the recording device was turned in the other direction in case there were any people still in the vehicles. Culturally I feel that we as a nation observe the highest standards of decency and should be commended for that, not subjected to misplaced reprimands.
It's not the CAA investigating this, why would they? They don't investigate air crashes.
It's the AAIB and the police investigating this.
End of the day, what I'm trying to say is if it was your family that was killed on Saturday would you want to see pictures of it everywhere? Thought not.
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...but still, nothing to do with the investigation, nor can they interfere.The CAA is certainly the whipping boy at the moment. It seems they can make decisions without awaiting AAIB recommendations.
It is bad taste. By all means post the ones of it in the air and send the crash ones to the authorities but don't post them here because you want critique. As has been mentioned there is no getting away from the images of the crash in the media and the wild speculation from missinformed people, but the actual crash photos don't need to be posted here.
I don't think the OP has asked for critique (and he certainly didn't get any, good grief) - I think he just put them in this bit of the forum because it seemed relevant. Since there were already many similar photos in wide circulation it would make no material difference putting them here and I think the aim was to stimulate a general discussion about the event - it seems he was not the only forum member who was there. I fail to see how posting those pictures has done any harm.
Please stop arguing, the incident was bad enough without all the speculation that is now going on, let alone the disagreements.
The problem with general disscussion is that they don't know the facts no one does yet so that makes this pointless. Would you want people to post photos of a fatal motorsport crash and use the same arguement?
Lindsay D said:Perhaps if you had been there or had been involved in some way (and I have no idea if you were or not) you would feel more connected to the event and therefore more likely to want to talk about it, for a whole host of reasons.
If you don't like the photos that have been posted, and don't agree with them being posted, why frequent the thread?
I think you need to give he OP a break, I don't believe for a second he was looking for crit! Where else was he going to post them?
..... because the photos aren't horrific, even if the event was. That's the difference.
It happened 5 mins from my house. I cycle past that point every day and work in an office almost directly opposite the terminal building. I went on holiday to North Yorkshire at 4am that day so found out about it at about 3pm, but I would have otherwise been watching from the park by my house which has great air show viewing points.
Sadly I feel very connected.
Plus Phal is an ex colleague of mine.
I agree about healthy discussion it just seemed to be getting heated. (To me).
Nowhere. There is absolutely no need to post them anywhere. You can start a discussion without posting a photo of an accident which claimed the lives of at least 11 people.
Nowhere. There is absolutely no need to post them anywhere. You can start a discussion without posting a photo of an accident which claimed the lives of at least 11 people.
Seriously? A picture of an aircraft that has become a fireball smashing through a busy dual carriageway is not horrific? I had originally changed that post to reflect that the other thread contains no images of the actual crash, as we posted at the same time, but your comment is so crass it's unbelievable.
Erm, this is a photography forum. Regardless of the subject matter these images are of interest to photographers.
No matter how strong or weak your connection to the aviation community.
Were you there? Do you know what it sounded like - have you heard the sickening thud of a plane hitting the ground? In case you haven't, I can tell you that is pretty horrific, and it does NOT compare to the OP's photos - and your application of the word 'crass' is wildly misplaced and frankly insulting.
Quite strong, thank you. Perhaps why my opinion is what it is.
No followed by yes. I had the decency to put my camera down though.
I think you will disappointedI'm sure nobody would be ghoulish enough to take photographs of people suffering or any images where the victims can be seen.
I have no interest at all in seeing these pictures.
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I think you will disappointed
I hope that isn't the case Peter - that would not be acceptable on this forum.
Has it completely escaped your notice that:
a) Three of the people arguing for the images are actually all based around the site of the incident?
b) Almost 100% of the casualties (with the exception of the pilot) will be locals and have very little to do with the airshow?
Seriously, as a member of the aviation fraternity, what you are doing here is not trying to be respectful. On the contrary, you are pouring water onto an oil fire.
I hope that isn't the case Peter - that would not be acceptable on this forum.