Storm Ciara

Cagey75 said:
Bit of rain and wind, don't know why they give these storms names, just a little above the usual weather we get here in the Irish midlands
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Naming storms of this magnitude makes people more aware of anticipated damage and possible life-threatening conditions . It works too. Also, if there are any other storms around then they won't be confused with the named one. It's Met Éireann which gives the name. The Dutch are now linked in so having a name common to all will give clarity. Storms that hit Ireland and the UK etc that originated as tropical storms or hurricanes retain the name given to them by the US authorities.

Having seen the results of what this storm has done in your country as well as here in the UK you can hardly call it 'a bit of rain and wind' and was it really "just a little above the usual weather in the Irish midlands ? Maybe you're not aware but it was your Met Éireann who, along with the UK decided to name Ciara and it was Met Éireann which drew up the list of storm names from suggestions by the public ..the next one will be Dennis. This one,Ciara is named after..er an Irish 7th century saint .


Met Éireann mustn't have thought it was 'just a little above what is usual' or they wouldn't have issued this warning.
https://www.met.ie/warnings

In the event,as outlined in this report re Ireland 3000 homes/businesses suffered power outages along with flooding..as are many roads have been flooded. Just a little above the usual ?
https://www.met.ie/warnings

Ireland . ITV reports higher figures (maybe assessed later)10,000 farms and businesses without power
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-09/public-advised-to-avoid-woodlands-during-storm-ciara/

In the UK 30,000 homes without power,mainly over on the eastern side. Photos from the Ipswich Star newspaper
https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/storm-ciara-suffolk-pictures-and-video-of-damage-1-6505498


Yorkshire. Is this 'just a little above usual for you' too ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-51434126

..and Suffolk
https://www.chinadailyasia.com/article/120608

France https://www.chinadailyasia.com/article/120608

In the light of the above reports and videos maybe you should be re-assessing your statement. It comes across as rather..well.. it speaks for itself, really.
 
I looked out the window this morning, and noticed the big plastic playhouse in the garden a few doors down isn't there any more,
Hope the wicked witch of the east has life insurance. :p
 
This is so sad to read, that idiot on the surf board needs locking up for being a danger to life.


Mark Tewkesbury was in command of an RNLI lifeboat that almost capsized off the Hastings coast after rescuing a missing surfer on Sunday.
He described how the crew had been trying to come ashore as the boat began losing power and they were forced to abort the landing.
As they scrambled to get back into safe water, the boat was hit by a huge wave.
He said: "As a crew, we can talk the theory on how to deal with that situation, but the practicality just doesn't happen.
"It's only in that real-life situation, you can't practise that.
"It's fair to say that we knew what to expect, we knew how the boat was going to react, and everybody kept to their roles and worked very well to get us back out of the situation."
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Dale. said:
Have to say, whilst it's been gusty here (Ayrshire), I've seen worse. Late 2010, early 2011 saw some big winds here with gusts upto 130mph. Wind turbines caught fire, one even exploded. A farmer friend's metal barn was found over a mile from where it was supposed to be.

As it was called here, Hurricane Bawbag, and 2 weeks later, another one.
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Ciara is the worst since December 19th 2013.

I was interested in your December 7-13 2011 storm endearingly called Hurricane Bawag so I did a bit of Googling. The date of that is shown (link below) as December 7-13 2011 though. I now know what Bawag means. Lol. I see it became so widespread and popular that T-Shirts had it written on them.

The real name of that storm was Friedhelm, an extratropical storm..a cyclone..named by the Free University of Berlin and the worst in Scotland for 10 years categorised as Hurricane-force 12 on the Beaufort scale..It had a very low pressure of 956.hPa. The Met Office issued a red warning for the Scottish Central Belt. The Forth, Tay, Erskine and Skye bridges were closed. On the summit of CairGorm sustained winds of up to 105mph were recorded along with a gusts of 165mph.

Here's a table of named storms. It looks like the second one you mentioned which occurred two weeks later was Ulli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_windstorms

Storm/Cyclone Ulli January 3 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Ulli#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland

All very interesting reading for me. (y)
 
Tori_T said:
I looked out the window this morning, and noticed the big plastic playhouse in the garden a few doors down isn't there any more,
Hope the wicked witch of the east has life insurance. :p
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We had an electrician here this morning and he told us that he'd just cone from another house and the chap there showed him the huge trampoline that landed in his back garden, those with the netting all round . I did a quick check and they're about £1200. He'd knocked on doors up and down the road but was unable to locate the owner of it.
 
According to Network Rail, trampolines are attracted to their overhead power lines. Seems they've have to untangle a few this morning.
 
Dave70D said:
This is so sad to read, that idiot on the surf board needs locking up for being a danger to life.


Mark Tewkesbury was in command of an RNLI lifeboat that almost capsized off the Hastings coast after rescuing a missing surfer on Sunday.
He described how the crew had been trying to come ashore as the boat began losing power and they were forced to abort the landing.
As they scrambled to get back into safe water, the boat was hit by a huge wave.
He said: "As a crew, we can talk the theory on how to deal with that situation, but the practicality just doesn't happen.
"It's only in that real-life situation, you can't practise that.
"It's fair to say that we knew what to expect, we knew how the boat was going to react, and everybody kept to their roles and worked very well to get us back out of the situation."
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The link you've posted shows the beach only. Is this the incident (Sussex..where Hastings is) ?
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPeDlbhRZNc
 
JohnC6 said:
Ciara is the worst since December 19th 2013.

I was interested in your December 7-13 2011 storm endearingly called Hurricane Bawag so I did a bit of Googling. The date of that is shown (link below) as December 7-13 2011 though. I now know what Bawag means. Lol. I see it became so widespread and popular that T-Shirts had it written on them.

The real name of that storm was Friedhelm, an extratropical storm..a cyclone..named by the Free University of Berlin and the worst in Scotland for 10 years categorised as Hurricane-force 12 on the Beaufort scale..It had a very low pressure of 956.hPa. The Met Office issued a red warning for the Scottish Central Belt. The Forth, Tay, Erskine and Skye bridges were closed. On the summit of CairGorm sustained winds of up to 105mph were recorded along with a gusts of 165mph.

Here's a table of named storms. It looks like the second one you mentioned which occurred two weeks later was Ulli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_windstorms

Storm/Cyclone Ulli January 3 2012
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Ulli#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland

All very interesting reading for me. (y)
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You're right.

2010/11 was heavy snow for us.

Regarding yesterday's storm, I think we were sheltered from the worst of it, we live at just about the lowest point of a valley. I saw pictures from the coast, not 20 minutes from where we stay and it looked a lot more impressive than it did here. I wish I'd gone with the camera now.
 
Glorious sunshine and almost clear blue sky when we left home this morning (10:50). Got hailed and rained on when I had to walk back to collect the car (and Mrs Nod!) an hour later. At least the wind has dropped (and there are no trampoline age residents around here!)
 
My wife was being very annoying last night during the storm, she kept looking through the windows and complaining. It got so irritating at one point that I had to let her back in!
 
Tori_T said:
Aren't most lifeboatmen volunteers?
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I think they all are. Boats and equipment aren't cheap though, neither is fuel.
 
Nod said:
I think they all are. Boats and equipment aren't cheap though, neither is fuel.
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and that matters more then the human volunteers losing their lives because some idiot puts themselves in danger ?
Boats etc. are replaceable the people on them aren't
 
JohnC6 said:
Naming storms of this magnitude makes people more aware of anticipated damage and possible life-threatening conditions . It works too. Also, if there are any other storms around then they won't be confused with the named one. It's Met Éireann which gives the name. The Dutch are now linked in so having a name common to all will give clarity. Storms that hit Ireland and the UK etc that originated as tropical storms or hurricanes retain the name given to them by the US authorities.

Having seen the results of what this storm has done in your country as well as here in the UK you can hardly call it 'a bit of rain and wind' and was it really "just a little above the usual weather in the Irish midlands ? Maybe you're not aware but it was your Met Éireann who, along with the UK decided to name Ciara and it was Met Éireann which drew up the list of storm names from suggestions by the public ..the next one will be Dennis. This one,Ciara is named after..er an Irish 7th century saint .


Met Éireann mustn't have thought it was 'just a little above what is usual' or they wouldn't have issued this warning.
https://www.met.ie/warnings

In the event,as outlined in this report re Ireland 3000 homes/businesses suffered power outages along with flooding..as are many roads have been flooded. Just a little above the usual ?
https://www.met.ie/warnings

Ireland . ITV reports higher figures (maybe assessed later)10,000 farms and businesses without power
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-02-09/public-advised-to-avoid-woodlands-during-storm-ciara/

In the UK 30,000 homes without power,mainly over on the eastern side. Photos from the Ipswich Star newspaper
https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/storm-ciara-suffolk-pictures-and-video-of-damage-1-6505498


Yorkshire. Is this 'just a little above usual for you' too ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-york-north-yorkshire-51434126

..and Suffolk
https://www.chinadailyasia.com/article/120608

France https://www.chinadailyasia.com/article/120608

In the light of the above reports and videos maybe you should be re-assessing your statement. It comes across as rather..well.. it speaks for itself, really.
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I've cycled to work in this storm, and yes it was just that where I reside; a little windier and rainier than usual [as in it is always windy and rainy here], in between the dry, bright spells. If I took a photo of my garden right this minute you'd see sunshine, though it did indeed rain earlier. And yes it was heavy-ish. As a cyclist I detest rain showers, trust me! I have no reason to exaggerate the weather either way, I go by what's directly outside my door. Maybe we just haven't got the worst of it here yet? It is apparently snowing further down south so we may get some of that later. I never suggested I didn't care about worse affected areas btw, you're reading way, way too much into my brief post about how the weather is where I'm at. So, no, I don't need to re-assess anything, and it should come across as just what it is. Why that upsets you I have no idea.
 
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Tori_T said:
Aren't most lifeboatmen volunteers?
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Normally the mechanic, who maintains the boat, is a full time employee. As you have just seen in the video their work has to be of a very high standard and can't be rushed or subject to cost limitations.

The lifeboat crew at Spurn Head, at the mouth of the Humber, also were, and I think still are, full time employees of the RNLI because of its remote location.
 
Dave70D said:
That`s the one, IMO they should charge surfer fool for putting everyone who tried to help him for putting their lives in danger.
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I‘ve been thinking along the same lines. Going out in those conditions was reckless. He should be named and shamed..maybe he has been by now. The problem with what we both think should happen and I’d bet a vast majority of people, is defining a criteria. At what point of sea state can going out surfing be deemed as likely to endanger life and consequently risk the lives of rescuers,same with those who go up a mountain when bad or severe weather is forecast. That scenario has just happened on Ben Nevis. Does a panel decide it was so reckless that costs should be awarded to the rescue service..lifeboat or mountain rescue. It’s a bit tricky,maybe someone can suggest some kind of solution.
 
Tori_T said:
Aren't most lifeboatmen volunteers?
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Yes,that’s true and that’s even more reason that they should not be put at avoidable risk and what that young man did was avoidable simply by using some common sense and awareness . It’s not unreasonable to think that the service is there to rescue those who are caught out by adverse conditions..eg rip tides, dinghies drifting,. (usually young people), caught out on sandbanks by a rapid incoming tide.of ten holiday-makers but even locals have been caught out. Even dogs which have had cliff falls and also caught out by tides and marooned on rocks because incoming tides have left them stranded . Then there are ships,trawlers,yachts etc that have suffered engine failure or a loss of steering power or some other life-threatening situation such as heading for rocks or even still out at sea but at risk. Those sort of situations are what we envisage the RNLI is for not people,like this young man, who went into already dangerous conditions. That’s how I see it.
 
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My own take of the next named storm, yes it has been done to death by now but thought I'd do my own take on it anyway . . .

Dennis the Menace.jpg
 
Cagey75 said:
I've cycled to work in this storm, and yes it was just that where I reside; a little windier and rainier than usual [as in it is always windy and rainy here], in between the dry, bright spells. If I took a photo of my garden right this minute you'd see sunshine, though it did indeed rain earlier. And yes it was heavy-ish. As a cyclist I detest rain showers, trust me! I have no reason to exaggerate the weather either way, I go by what's directly outside my door. Maybe we just haven't got the worst of it here yet? It is apparently snowing further down south so we may get some of that later. I never suggested I didn't care about worse affected areas btw, you're reading way, way too much into my brief post about how the weather is where I'm at. So, no, I don't need to re-assess anything, and it should come across as just what it is. Why that upsets you I have no idea.
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Yes, I can say that your post did annoy me. It did not, as you said, ‘upset’ me, though and the reason was that it came across as trivialising a storm..a named storm..so it met certain criteria regarding severity.. that was causing severe damage and floods in Ireland and the UK and had been for several hours before you posted. I did something that I criticise others for. I assumed you would be aware.

First off it never occurred to me, let alone suggest, that you didn’t care about the worst affected areas. You won't be able to point out that I did. I've just re-read my post and nothing in it suggests that. You say you have no idea why it upset me . It’s really important that when posting on social media that exchanges say what they mean. We can't be second-guessing, we have to take what is written as red and you said a 'bit of rain and wind..etc. when the rest of Ireland was being battered.

To address the question in your last sentence hopefully, I can explain it to you.

Nowhere in the post did you say that it was what you were experiencing and you posted at 10.18pm on Sunday when this storm was doing it’s worst and had been for several hours. What about the warnings by Met Éireann ? You must have been aware of them,they were issued days before the storm hit and you must have thought, from what you posted, that they'd got it wrong but more to the point, before you posted, there were many accounts in the preceding posts of very high winds and heavy rain and at 5.14pm, so 5 hours before you posted, Bobsyeruncle posted a video of a Bistro in Hawick, Scotland, collapsing into stormy seas. Knowing now what the conditions were where you live I find it difficult to understand why you didn't say that you weren't getting the severe weather that most other places in Ireland were. There's brevity that still retains vital information and brevity that omits vital information.

Your response to me was posted at 3.09pm yesterday and as you see in my 'Quote' of it above you said that "I've cycled through the storm." but you don't say when. On Sunday ?..dare I say it....I assume ? but maybe not because you say that " maybe we haven't had the worst of it yet"..ie 3.09pm yesterday. 'I've just cycled would have been clearer. The worst was on Sunday. Surely, you must have watched the reports on TV ? I don't mean to have a dig at you here but it's the very essence of what seemed to me to have been the case. You said (Quote-above) that you have no reason to exagerate either way. That's the point. It wasn't an exaggeration that so irked me but what I and dare I be so presumptive as to say, many others reading the thread, read as trivialising the severity of the storm. Stating that it was sunny on Monday at 3.00pm is irrelevant.

Here is a photo of damage to Carlow Castle,which,as you no doubt will know, is close to the river Barrow in County Carlow and whilst I don't know the geography of Ireland I see it's to the east and not far from what I take to be where you said you lived.. ie in the Irish Midlands.. The newspaper report is timed at 1426 on the 9th...Sunday, ie. 4 hours 8 minutes before your original 10.18pm post re a 'bit of rain and wind' so you can understand that your post could easily be taken as being flippant.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5079750/storm-ciara-in-ireland-carlow-castle-damaged-wind-warning/

I'll end on a lighter note. I'm pleased for you that, unlike many, if not most of Ireland, your locality did not experience the full impact of storm Ciara.

Looks like the Irish Midlands will have winds of 70mph according to the dark red area on this map as storm Dennis hits.
https://www.donegalweatherchannel.i...-met-office-and-will-hit-ireland-this-weekend

I'll end on a lighter note. I'm pleased for you that, unlike many, if not most, of Ireland you locality did not experience the full impact of storm Ciara. Four of my neighbour's fence panels were picked up off their lawn today and along with two new posts were put back in place as was one of ours even though secured between concrete posts. Two ridge tiles were replaced on my other neighbour's roof but compared to others around the country this is minor damage.
 
JohnC6 said:
Yes, I can say that your post did annoy me. It did not, as you said, ‘upset’ me, though and the reason was that it came across as trivialising a storm..a named storm..so it met certain criteria regarding severity.. that was causing severe damage and floods in Ireland and the UK and had been for several hours before you posted. I did something that I criticise others for. I assumed you would be aware.

First off it never occurred to me, let alone suggest, that you didn’t care about the worst affected areas. You won't be able to point out that I did. I've just re-read my post and nothing in it suggests that. You say you have no idea why it upset me . It’s really important that when posting on social media that exchanges say what they mean. We can't be second-guessing, we have to take what is written as red and you said a 'bit of rain and wind..etc. when the rest of Ireland was being battered.

To address the question in your last sentence hopefully, I can explain it to you.

Nowhere in the post did you say that it was what you were experiencing and you posted at 10.18pm on Sunday when this storm was doing it’s worst and had been for several hours. What about the warnings by Met Éireann ? You must have been aware of them,they were issued days before the storm hit and you must have thought, from what you posted, that they'd got it wrong but more to the point, before you posted, there were many accounts in the preceding posts of very high winds and heavy rain and at 5.14pm, so 5 hours before you posted, Bobsyeruncle posted a video of a Bistro in Hawick, Scotland, collapsing into stormy seas. Knowing now what the conditions were where you live I find it difficult to understand why you didn't say that you weren't getting the severe weather that most other places in Ireland were. There's brevity that still retains vital information and brevity that omits vital information.

Your response to me was posted at 3.09pm yesterday and as you see in my 'Quote' of it above you said that "I've cycled through the storm." but you don't say when. On Sunday ?..dare I say it....I assume ? but maybe not because you say that " maybe we haven't had the worst of it yet"..ie 3.09pm yesterday. 'I've just cycled would have been clearer. The worst was on Sunday. Surely, you must have watched the reports on TV ? I don't mean to have a dig at you here but it's the very essence of what seemed to me to have been the case. You said (Quote-above) that you have no reason to exagerate either way. That's the point. It wasn't an exaggeration that so irked me but what I and dare I be so presumptive as to say, many others reading the thread, read as trivialising the severity of the storm. Stating that it was sunny on Monday at 3.00pm is irrelevant.

Here is a photo of damage to Carlow Castle,which,as you no doubt will know, is close to the river Barrow in County Carlow and whilst I don't know the geography of Ireland I see it's to the east and not far from what I take to be where you said you lived.. ie in the Irish Midlands.. The newspaper report is timed at 1426 on the 9th...Sunday, ie. 4 hours 8 minutes before your original 10.18pm post re a 'bit of rain and wind' so you can understand that your post could easily be taken as being flippant.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5079750/storm-ciara-in-ireland-carlow-castle-damaged-wind-warning/

I'll end on a lighter note. I'm pleased for you that, unlike many, if not most of Ireland, your locality did not experience the full impact of storm Ciara.

Looks like the Irish Midlands will have winds of 70mph according to the dark red area on this map as storm Dennis hits.
https://www.donegalweatherchannel.i...-met-office-and-will-hit-ireland-this-weekend

I'll end on a lighter note. I'm pleased for you that, unlike many, if not most, of Ireland you locality did not experience the full impact of storm Ciara. Four of my neighbour's fence panels were picked up off their lawn today and along with two new posts were put back in place as was one of ours even though secured between concrete posts. Two ridge tiles were replaced on my other neighbour's roof but compared to others around the country this is minor damage.
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I have relatives scattered all over Ireland, when I tell them it's just a bit heavier rain here than usual, they don't get annoyed ;) they just get it. They don't need to send me Met Eireann graphs, stats or links to try persuade me ... Btw, I am originally from Carlow, and yes I have seen the damage to the castle and it is very unfortunate. Carlow is SE btw, the midlands would be above that, I'm actually in the upper to North midlands atm [Co. Meath[ I just didn't think anyone would care for specifics.

We got snow , sleet and rain today - I still cycled to work in it, got slush right up my ass, karma!
 
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Cagey75 said:
I have relatives scattered all over Ireland, when I tell them it's just a bit heavier rain here than usual, they don't get annoyed ;) they get it. They don't need to send me Met Eireann graphs or links to try persuade me ... Btw, I am originally from Carlow, and yes I have seen the damage to the castle and it is unfortunate. Carlow is SE btw, the midlands would be above that by a bit, I'm actually in the upper to North midlands atm [Co. Meath[ I just didn't think anyone would care for specifics.

We got snow , sleet and rain today - I still cycled to work in it, got slush right up my ass, karma!
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Lol I had written on a report at work.. 'Pays great attention to detail ' I agree with you, not many would get into such detail.:)

I wouldn't cycle over here -it's too dangerous .Latest figures for Britain..(so just England,Scotland and Wales..not NI) are for 2016 are the most recent figures available which isn't very good. They show that 102 were killed in 18,477 injured. That can be anything from a bad cut to a serious injury (loss of a limb etc)

https://www.rospa.com/Road-Safety/Advice/Pedal-Cyclists/Facts-Figures

Cyclists, especially the Lycra-clad ones, are not too well regarded here by motorists but I always give them plenty of room when I overtake and never do a left turn infront of one and make sure when I'm at a junction that they know I've seen them approaching...sometimes get a wave of thanks for that one.

Re your wind/rain.Some places do have a microclimate, maybe you're in one. I'll have to look at the topography of your region.

Just learnt that County Meath is just north of Dublin..and here's a thread on its microclimate.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?p=96804385

I've also just read that Meath is known for its archaeological sites including those of Neolithic times. Aspiring High Kings kings of Ireland were crowned on the Hill of Tara, hence Royal County. Three World Heritage sites . The passage of tombs of Bru na Boinee (can't get acute accents on a u nor an o) 500 years older than the Pyramids of Egypt. Battle of Boyne site at Oldbridge. Newgrange 3000BC. the oldest known deliberately orientated structure and aligned to dawn at Winter Solstice. What a heritage.
 
Ironically my only casualty due to the storm was my weather station. Pole it was on bent due to rust so the anemometer and rain gauge broke when it hit the ground. Still haven't found the bits.

Snow caused mayhem but luckily I got home before it had settled.
 
JohnC6 said:
Lol I had written on a report at work.. 'Pays great attention to detail ' I agree with you, not many would get into such detail.:)

I wouldn't cycle over here -it's too dangerous .Latest figures for Britain..(so just England,Scotland and Wales..not NI) are for 2016 are the most recent figures available which isn't very good. They show that 102 were killed in 18,477 injured. That can be anything from a bad cut to a serious injury (loss of a limb etc)

https://www.rospa.com/Road-Safety/Advice/Pedal-Cyclists/Facts-Figures

Cyclists, especially the Lycra-clad ones, are not too well regarded here by motorists but I always give them plenty of room when I overtake and never do a left turn infront of one and make sure when I'm at a junction that they know I've seen them approaching...sometimes get a wave of thanks for that one.

Re your wind/rain.Some places do have a microclimate, maybe you're in one. I'll have to look at the topography of your region.

Just learnt that County Meath is just north of Dublin..and here's a thread on its microclimate.
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin//showthread.php?p=96804385

I've also just read that Meath is known for its archaeological sites including those of Neolithic times. Aspiring High Kings kings of Ireland were crowned on the Hill of Tara, hence Royal County. Three World Heritage sites . The passage of tombs of Bru na Boinee (can't get acute accents on a u nor an o) 500 years older than the Pyramids of Egypt. Battle of Boyne site at Oldbridge. Newgrange 3000BC. the oldest known deliberately orientated structure and aligned to dawn at Winter Solstice. What a heritage.
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I'm in the Boyne valley right next to the hill of Tara, 20km from Newgrange, it is indeed a very historical place. We may well be in one of those pockets as apart from a slight snow fall today, and higher winds than usual in the early morns, the days have been no wintry than any other year. that is all I really meant. On the naming of storms, I always thought it made them seem like pets - "ah, there's Charlie now, blowing clothes off the lines" - made them seem less dangerous somehow and that in itself could be dangerous. Storm 'Ciara' almost makes it seem harmless and people pay no heed, think they'd be better to give storms numbers

When I say 'cyclist' I mean MTB, no helmet, sorry! Just been that way since a kid, but I do follow the ROTR at least , don lights and signal. No Lycra here!
 
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JohnC6 said:
Here is a photo of damage to Carlow Castle,which,as you no doubt will know, is close to the river Barrow in County Carlow and whilst I don't know the geography of Ireland I see it's to the east and not far from what I take to be where you said you lived.. ie in the Irish Midlands.. The newspaper report is timed at 1426 on the 9th...Sunday, ie. 4 hours 8 minutes before your original 10.18pm post re a 'bit of rain and wind' so you can understand that your post could easily be taken as being flippant.

https://www.thesun.ie/news/5079750/storm-ciara-in-ireland-carlow-castle-damaged-wind-warning/
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Knew I had a photo of [what was left of] the castle somewhere:

Carlow Castle ruins by K G, on Flickr
 
Cagey75 said:
Show me evidence that a helmet has ever saved a cyclist. I've had my falls, but it's always been my hands that saved me, not my head
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Thats a bit blase.
My wifes dad came off his bike and hit his head.
If he had been wearing a helmet he'd still be alive today.
 
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Bobsyeruncle said:
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More like it would have happened anyway Bob, think you know this.

In fact, many studies [you can look them up if you're arsed enough] suggest you are actually more likely to have an accident wearing a helmet. And the tonnes of times I've fallen from a bike, i have never once hit my head off of anything ... [Yes, I'm including my childhood, haven't actually fallen off a bike in decades]

This is about the weather btw, not how motorists think cyclists should dress in case they hit them ... think there's a thread or three about that already
 
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