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That was a really good race!

Amazed that Fernando finished 7th despite a pretty heavy crash.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
That was a really good race!

Amazed that Fernando finished 7th despite a pretty heavy crash.
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Without the safety cars incidents, it would have been a slam dunk for Max. As it was with the safety cars and a poor pit stop due to a dodgy wheel gun, we got to see something a bit more interesting that in the end was yet another clear demonstration of just how good the Red Bull car is this season and how well Max can get performance out of it.

And yes Alonso was very lucky to get away relatively unharmed in the incident with Stroll.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
That was a really good race!

Amazed that Fernando finished 7th despite a pretty heavy crash.
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I think Alonso was blamed for that crash and knocked back to 15th?
 
2022 FORMULA 1 GRAN PREMIO DE LA CIUDAD DE MÉXICO

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Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez
Lap data
Lap length 4.304km (2.674 miles)
Race laps 71
Race distance 305.354km (189.738 miles)
Pole position Left-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’20.521 (Nico Rosberg, 2015)
Fastest lap 1’14.759 (Daniel Ricciardo, 2018, qualifying three)
Maximum speed 349kph (216.858 mph)
Distance from grid to turn one 890m
Full throttle 45%
Longest flat-out section 1200m
Gear changes per lap 52
Fuel use per lap 1.41kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.054s
Pit lane time loss 16s

UK Times
Friday 28th October 2022
Mexico City Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 13:00-14:00 (UK time: 19:00-20:00)
Mexico City Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 16:00-17:00 (UK time: 22:00-23:00)
Saturday 29th October 2022
Mexico City Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 12:00-13:00 (UK time: 18:00-19:00)
Mexico City Grand Prix Qualifying: 15:00 (UK time: 21:00)
Sunday 30th October 2022
Mexico City Grand Prix: 14:00 (UK time: 20:00)


Previous Winners
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes Hermanos Rodríguez
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2017 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer
2018 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-TAG Heuer
2019 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2020 Cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic
2021 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-Honda

Videos

Alonso 2015
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUBgXq4VLes


Ivan Capelli 1989
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0lJa0iqYbQ



Standings
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2022 FORMULA 1 HEINEKEN GRANDE PRÊMIO DE SÃO PAULO

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Autódromo José Carlos Pace
Lap data
Lap length 4.309km (2.677 miles)
Race laps 71
Race distance 305.909km (190.083 miles)
Pole position Right-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’11.473 (Juan Pablo Montoya, 2004)
Fastest lap 1’07.281 (Lewis Hamilton, 2018, qualifying three)
Maximum speed 331kph (205.674 mph)
Distance from grid to turn one 195m
Full throttle 64%
Longest flat-out section 1,394m
Downforce level High
Gear changes per lap 36
Fuel use per lap 1.35kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.042s
Pit lane time loss 18.6s

UK Times
Friday 11th November 2022
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 12:30-13:30 (UK time: 15:30-16:30)
Brazilian Grand Prix Qualifying 2: 16:00-17:00 (UK time: 19:00-20:00)
Saturday 12th November 2022
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 12:30-13:30 (UK time: 15:30-16:30)
Brazilian Grand Prix Sprint Race: 16:30 (UK time: 19:30)
Sunday 13th November 2022
Brazilian Grand Prix: 15:00 (UK time: 18:00)


Previous Winners
2000 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2001 United Kingdom David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes
2002 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2003 Italy Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Ford
2004 Colombia Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW
2005 Colombia Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
2006 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari
2007 Finland Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
2008 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari
2009 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault
2010 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault
2011 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault
2012 United Kingdom Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
2013 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault
2014 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2017 Germany Sebastian Vettel Ferrari
2018 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2019 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-Honda
2020 Cancelled due to the COVID-19 pandemic
2021 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes

Videos

Massa 2006
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BISbjOMR-R0


Verstappen 2016
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dY_5xZ993wI



Standings
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Dale. said:
I am happy. I'm a fan of Lewis but I didn't mind him not winning today and George did.

What about Max? Does he really think he's bigger than the team?
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Don't you mean Charles? Those pleading radio calls did him no favours in my eyes.
Great race though. As exciting as the last one was boring.
 
2022 FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX

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Yas Marina Circuit
Lap data
Lap length 5.554km (3.451 miles)
Race laps 55
Race distance 305.355km (189.739 miles)
Pole position Right-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’40.279 (Sebastian Vettel, 2009)
Fastest lap 1’34.779 (Lewis Hamilton, 2019, qualifying three)
Maximum speed 339kph (210.645 mph)
Distance from grid to turn one 305m
Full throttle 63%
Longest flat-out section 1233m
Downforce level High
Gear changes per lap 56
Fuel use per lap 1.82kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.04s

UK Times
Friday 18th November 2022
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 14:00-15:00 (UK time: 10:00-11:00)
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 17:00-18:00 (UK time: 13:00-14:00)
Saturday 19th November 2022
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 15:00-16:00 (UK time: 11:00-12:00)
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Qualifying: 18:00 (UK time: 14:00)
Sunday 20th November 2022
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix: 17:00 (UK time: 13:00)


Previous Winners
2009 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault
2010 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault
2011 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2012 Finland Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault
2013 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault
2014 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2017 Finland Valtteri Bottas Mercedes
2018 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2019 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2020 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-Honda
2021 Netherlands Max Verstappen Red Bull Racing-Honda

Videos

Various 2012
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFbtxlWQDgA


Hamilton v Perez 2021
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnHUlH2qv4s



Standings
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Ricardodaforce said:
Hulk confirmed at Haas.
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So now they have two journeyman drivers. Not exactly a bold management decision, even though I like Hulk. Will probably get through less spare parts though #F1onashoestring
 
Who remembers who finished second anyway? Only the winners name on the trophy, second is first place loser.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Ricciardo joins Red Bull as reserve driver.
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Has there been further confirmation of this? Last I saw was that Helmut had got all excited about it and made the announcement, but nothing has yet been signed. I’ve also been told that Coulthard has commented that if Perez isn’t happy with the way the (Red Bull) team is operating, he is free to leave… So that looks (to me) like Daniel is being used as stick to keep Sergio onside.
 
mj4456 said:
Shouldn’t they BMW powered to match the road cars?
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I suspect that Aston Martin as a company have little if next to nothing to do with the F1 team, without Stroll Aston Martin has never been financial stable enough to fund an F1 team. I cant find the page I have seen in the past that list the names of the companies that actualy hold the licence to race in F1 Sauber is one and I expect Aston Martin are just Commercial branding similarly to Alfa Romeo where Sauber hold the license to race and Alfa is just the branding.
 
Ricardodaforce said:
Interesting article about the differences between F1 and IndyCar.

www.planetf1.com

F1 v IndyCar: Top speeds, engines, format, calendars and safety all compared

While F1 cars and IndyCars look similar, the two series differ quite a lot under the skin. Here's how different F1 and IndyCar really are...
www.planetf1.com www.planetf1.com
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Thanks for that Ric, really shows the difference between Indycar and F1. At the circuit of the Americas in 2019 the Indycar pole lap was a 1:46 at 115mph, whilst Bottas in an F1 car on the same circuit that year set a pole lap of 1:32 at 133mph. If Jamie Chadwick wants to race in F1, then she has to forget Indycar lights and go through the F3/F2 progression, to see how she measures up to the like of guys who are going to race F1, such as Leclerc, Norris, Russel etc.
 
andya700 said:
Thanks for that Ric, really shows the difference between Indycar and F1. At the circuit of the Americas in 2019 the Indycar pole lap was a 1:46 at 115mph, whilst Bottas in an F1 car on the same circuit that year set a pole lap of 1:32 at 133mph. If Jamie Chadwick wants to race in F1, then she has to forget Indycar lights and go through the F3/F2 progression, to see how she measures up to the like of guys who are going to race F1, such as Leclerc, Norris, Russel etc.
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I don’t agree. F1 seems to keeping a close eye on some of the IndyCar drivers. Palau is McLaren reserve driver, and Herta would have been in F1 next year if he’d accrued enough super license points.
 
With the caveat that you can never tell anything from testing, the Aston looks well planted this year, could Fernando have actually jumped the right way for once in his career?
 
onomatopoeia said:
With the caveat that you can never tell anything from testing, the Aston looks well planted this year, could Fernando have actually jumped the right way for once in his career?
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I think people overlook a few critical years when reminiscing about his career.

He jumped to McLaren into a championship winning car. Lost out to Lewis in the same machinery, even after bribing the mechanics to his favour.

He jumped to Ferrari into a championship winning car. Lost out to Seb in the RB. On two occasions the championship went down to the wire.

It’ll be great to see him in another competitive car but he’s annoyed me a little. He used to be a reliable voice but now he’s sold a little of his soul to the Stroll devil. Cast back to USA last year, he would’ve decapitated anyone who turned into him needlessly. Yet he sings Lance’s praises even calling him a future World Champ…. Sure.
 
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