I spent many years of my working life running "training" companies at a highish level and am still involved on a part time basis in a project helping to retain engineering skills in the UK….. UK Plc is going to need over 1 million trained engineers at all levels by 2020 if it is to remain competitive
A few years ago I met a guy who "sold" and made a living from giving training courses to improve "management" through the appreciation of art ……….. although I appreciated his skills I never "got it" and we did not take up his offer
Cool story bro'
Not sure what it means though.
Having both watched and partaken a little in the debates, it's not a lack of thought that makes art have negative connotations, but often the polarisation between the 'art' and 'observation' camps. Both sides also have many years of training and experience that are difficult to overcome in order to enjoy each others work and perspective, or to even accept that they may have validity and be worth respecting.
The debates here have been useful as an aid to developing an understanding.
That may be part of it. Appreciating art DOES require thought, and work on behalf of the viewer, and those that have no inclination to do that, will always struggle with art. Just the way it is. Where it breaks down is the dismissal of art as rubbish BECAUSE they won't/can't engage with art at that level. If it' snot for you, just say so, and move along - why bother trashing it?
Likewise, the opposite is true: Artists should not be so fast to dismiss work that is not art. I like visually impressive imagery as much as the next person. That's because such imagery has a universal appeal, but only because it requires no thought, and doesn't need to viewer to commit to any deeper analysis. It's easier to look at.
So in a way, I can relate to Eno's words there. Stop treating the image as an object in itself.. for it's formal qualities alone.
At risk of repeating myself, art has nothing do with whether you "like" it It doesn't mean you can't "like" something that's art... it's just not necessary. However, to appreciate an image for it's formal qualities ALONE... you HAVE to like it usually, because the aesthetic appeal is all there is.
Eno's music is a great example of this. The album Music for Airports... not something you'd listen to CASUALLY.. it demands your full attention. You really have to work at it a bit, but it rewards you if you do.. but anyone not willing to put the effort in, will listen to the first 30 seconds and just say "This is sh1t" and put Radio 1 on..... assuming it's daytime, as night time Radio 1 can be pretty cool
It's the same with visual art. Not prepared, or enjoy being challenged.... then you'll not really get it.
This is pretty much the sort of w***y b*****ks which makes people think that an unmade bed is art if someone says it is (if it is i'm a forger every morning
) , or an empty plinth is art because it could be a sculpture of anything.
I can never decide if these 'artists' really believe their own hype of if they are cynically having the keks off the gullible.
I think i'm going to start doing painting with my own urine .... I'll be renowed accross the world as a massive p*** artist
And there ladies and gentleman is exactly what I'm talking about. Either A) that's a troll, or B) it's someone who just can't be arsed thinking, or can't understand... so like many people who are challenged... react in a violent way.
Why not just accept that you don't get it, and ignore such threads? I'm not sure of the purpose of your comment here. It does nothing to change my mind, and does everything to convince me you're just a philistine. Surely it's just to cause trouble, as there's absolutely nothing constructive being added to the thread.