I also use incident and reflective meter ‘as appropriate’, I’m also prone to being blunt.SFTPhotography
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your admission about not knowing about histograms - and by extension that will mean curves/levels does vex me.
Hmmmmm did I say, I don't know about histograms, show me, I thought I said I don't use them
Also get YOUR facts right many including your post has nothing to do with MY original post, others started the mine is better than yours just as you have, perhaps you should stick to my original post as should others.
I bought this new, yes when it first came out and STILL use it today, I use it when using a 10 stopper, saves constantly removing and attaching it to meter.
I use both incident and reflective metering depending on what I am imaging, I bet there are photographers today who don't even know what it is, I bought it from the Camera shop in Aldershot in 1973, I could not afford it all at once and paid 10s a week that is 10 shillings, last year I bought a mint Euromaster 2
Also get YOUR facts right many including your post has nothing to do with MY original post, others started the mine is better than yours just as you have, perhaps you should stick to my original post as should others.
I'm a fan of ETTR and the use of blinkies as they tell me where something is blown, histograms only tell me that something somewhere is blown, and often the blown area doesn't matter so just knowing there is one isn't of use; that's why I don't use them - quite why the OP doesn't I suspect we'll never know
Oh and I doubt you'll see any photos soon either
And maybe I'm wrong, but in your lovely night-time shots Steve, how would a handheld meter work for those from 400 yards away? Its not like someone could run all over the village and mountain phoning back meter readings is it? Or could they if they had a fit assistant ???
Dave
I asked you to show me where I said I don't know about histograms, I am STILL waiting
Do me a favor ST Photography show me where I said
your admission about not knowing about histograms
No thanks, I have shot everything from weddings to sports and my customers from individuals to magazines and publications are happy without my knowing
post 147 and post 149, 2 different people have already pointed out where you've said it.
That Certainly reads to me as "no, i'm not going to bother reading up on it, my customers are happy employing me without my knowing about it." - ie, a tacit admission of lack of knowledge.
Apologise to everyone and move on. And that's me speaking with my staff members hat on, not just as a normal forum member.
I'm on ignore, so won't count3 people now
AND the threat of a 'slap' too !!!
Dave
I'm on ignore, so won't count
I was meaning the OP has me on ignore, so he won't have seen my post about him saying he knew nothing about histogramsYou’ve missed nothing - peak trolling was reached quite some time ago - and no pictures from the OP either.
I'm on ignore, so won't count
Called this bloke early on, was always going to end up like this.
All that I don't care lark sets the alarm bells ringing, very much like our old mate who regularly trashed his gear.
Possible sock puppet alert?
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Definitely not. Do you seriously think we don't have a watch out for that particular person.
Never thought about it seriously or otherwise.
Does surprise me though that ranty herberts don't get sussed out a bit more pronto
If a light year is a unit of distance is a light meter a unit of a fraction of time then?
maybe, just maybe as staff members we're not quite as judgemental as some of the less balanced members... plus, there's basically 3 or 4 of us to keep track of the entire forum and if someone's ranting in (say) the feathered section or cars - i'm never going to see it unless it's reported, because the photo's in there don't interest me in the slightest. Also, we don't just arbitarily throw someone out without there being a consensus between the staff members and it being discussed.
maybe its better than having them shouting in the street.
What's that as a decimal?that'd be 1/299,792,458 of a second if I've got the math's right...
Nope, because a 'meter' is a device for measuring things, and a "metre" is a measure of distance.If a light year is a unit of distance is a light meter a unit of a fraction of time then?
I’m also prone to being blunt
Phil V said:
I think you mean it makes it easier for the way you shoot - OTOH I kinda agree with Bob, I can shoot consistently much quicker in A mode and having compared my Raw's to a few M shooters I'm very confident that my way works better (not just for me)
I don't want to let the camera tell me what to do I DECIDE on DOF, shutter etc, perhaps that is the difference between a photographer and a shutter release presser
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So when you find a nice landscape scene, how do you decide what aperture, iso and shutter to use? Can you set all three without checking anything and get a perfect image? Or do you use your light meter and transfer those settings to the camera?
We might go out for sunset tonight. I'm still interested in how you approach exposing the perfect landscape shot?
Soz bud but I can't see who that's aimed at or what you're really asking
Could be me having a blonde (ok grey/white) moment
Dave
I don’t really shoot landscapes (half my point about there being no ‘right’ answer)We might go out for sunset tonight. I'm still interested in how you approach exposing the perfect landscape shot?
It's aimed at the person I quoted....
He decides what to set the camera at, without the camera doing it. I'm just interested where he pulls that information from to know what to set the variables (f/stop, ss, ISO) at.
I don’t really shoot landscapes (half my point about there being no ‘right’ answer)
But if I did, I’d probably go with a start point of taking a reading off the mid tone of the sky and locking it in.
That’s a tad misleading as I do sometimes shoot sunsets as backgrounds, which I do in M as I need a fixed point to hang the flash exposure on. Again though ... all part of understanding when automation is helpful and where it isn’t. BTW I’d be happy to allow the flash to ETTL even though I’ve metered the sky very carefully for the shot I want.
But frankly I can guess the flash power pretty accurately
Guys. Don't worry. You aren't thinking along my lines......
If you are just wanting a run through of the mechanics, I can help with that.
If you go back to the very first post of this thread, the OP posted a pic of a Weston hand held meter.
At the bottom right you can see the number "100" this is where you set the ISO of the film you are using or the sensitivity you have set in the camera.
You point the meter at the subject (or at the light source if you are using the incident method) and press a small button on the side of the meter. The needle at the top of the picture then moves over one of the numbers shown on the scale, which number depends on the amount of light hitting the meter.
You then manually turn the meter dial until a mark on the dial matches the number identified by the pointer. This is the inner set of numbers on the scale the scale that starts at 16 and goes to 9 in the picture, but runs from 1 to 16 if you could see the entire dial.
The two outer dials then represent the aperture + shutter speed options available to give the "correct" exposure for measured light and the iso set on the meter.
So, again, back to the picture, the dial is suggesting 1/60s @ f1, 1/30s @f1.4, 1/15s@f2 etc and depending on the subject matter, you choose one pair of values to transfer to your camera.
Informative. Thanks.
So much like composing the shot, setting ISO 100, setting f/8, and the cameras meter giving you the shutter speed? All directly on the camera itself? Then obviously adding a 3 stop filter and changing to f/11 to get the exact shutter speed you want because the scene is too bright....
I personally, rather like scanning a landscape with a spotmeter to get an idea of how the light levels vary across the scene, which helps judge the exposure, but coming from the days of sheet film cameras, I like the "ritual" of taking landscape pictures, and this includes agonising over the exposure a bit.
It's aimed at the person I quoted....
He decides what to set the camera at, without the camera doing it. I'm just interested where he pulls that information from to know what to set the variables (f/stop, ss, ISO) at.
I'm guessing you have a working awareness of zones and their impact on the exposure and the final result.
You quoted me... I'm confusedD'oh....
Not you either..... :banghead:
CanNik. I don't want to end up a shutter release presser!!