Depends on your point of view. Those with unstabilised lenses would obviously agree, but long lens shooters would prefer in-lens. Personally, I'd like to see IBIS as it'd make some of the unstabilised primes I want a lot more appealing - and there in a nutshell is why Canon will surely introduce it soon.
Again I agree, like I said I wouldn't want to make the argument as I don't think it leads anywhere, if it's the end result you care about you're not going to worry about what's doing it just how effective it is.
I think Canon might be quite relieved to get away from the 5D Mk1, 2, 3, 4 straight-jacket that predetermines a certain feature set. It's a bit like the movies Jaws 1, 2, 3 etc with a predestined story-line. Nice problem to have tho
I do like the idea of the board just deciding to change it on a whim but as much as I dislike some of their approach there's really no arguing with Canon's market share, still curious to see though.
Throughout this thread people have fallen into the trap of thinking what's important to them is important to everyone else. Canon knows what they're doing and every feature, or lack of, is deliberately and carefully considered. I'm sure that if we sat in Canon's board room (overlooking the warehouses full of DSLRs and EF lenses) it'd all make perfect sense. The EOS-R is the first of what will become a long and comprehensive line of cameras appealing to a wide range of users at a wide range of prices. It's just one camera, pitched into the popular upper-middle sector. I don't think it's realistic or meaningful to draw too many conclusions about what Canon is capable of or what we'll see in the (quite near) future. But it's a promising start IMHO.
That seems a bit unfair of a point to make when you were talking about what someone else is going to do in jest and I responded in kind speaking for myself. If there's a big group of people here who buy the R and suddenly realise they need a camera with IBIS and dual slots I wish them and their bank accounts good luck but I don't believe that to be the case as I expect most people here aren't buying blind and can understand if the R does or does not meet their needs.
You say they know exactly what they're doing but I don't understand how that's different for any other company, they make the decisions they think are right or will lead to a certain outcome but that doesn't guarantee anything. It's not representative of Canon but if we take a look at the 6DII sitting at £1k new that doesn't look like everything went according to plan, I think it highlights (in this one case) what Canon wanted wasn't the same thing that their customers wanted and please no one beat me up over this point, I say this with the dual meaning that they normally get it right more so than their competition.
My first DSLR was a Canon, every Canon I've owned was fantastic but despite having nothing but pleasant experiences with them I don't assume they're going to make the right product for me tomorrow no matter how much they know, on reflection that sounds like an argument for judging things on a per product basis rather than brand loyalty.
On the R specifically I have mixed feelings, for the most part I'm positive (its two biggest weaknesses are the things I care least about fortunately), sure I want it to be a better camera but I agree with the view that it meets the design goals Canon set out for it, (in my view specifically) introduce a full frame mirrorless, support existing customers well, take away some of the reasons people might look to other brands and positions them well for introducing the next models.
I think it's a great time for everyone regardless of if you're sticking with a DSLR or not, honestly if I could change just one thing it wouldn't be the cameras, it'd be the lenses.
Some of the stuff posted between here and the Sony thread make me seem pretty tame even on my most aggressive days
