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and some mealworms?
Live ones too
and some mealworms?
I was hoping it would feel like a 6d in the hand, so a bit smaller/lighter than the 5 series but not much. seems to be about right to me. hopefully I will get a chance to feel one in the hand at some point.... I'm going to take an iPhone snap of my *M5, EOS R, *7D-2, and 1DX-2 bodies together (*while I still have them) and post it here to give an indication of the size differences. If someone wants the actual measurements the info can be Google'd online.
The deep ergonomically designed grip is key to the whole body feeling just right and a very size-efficient < Not too small and not too big.
I just don't understand those who want to stick to the body shapes and chunky controls which belonged to a past technology. Some of the same folks care too much about what the camera looks like to outsiders - Surely you pose FOR the camera and not pose WITH the camera?
Doubtless I'll have more to post about the EOS R tomorrow and I'm actually looking forward to seeing how it performs in low light as it's claimed to be good at that.
Trouble is that I only shoot RAW and I don't use Lightroom and no other RAW editor is CR3 friendly yet. Can I Export CR3 files as TIFFS from DPP? I have never used Canon's DPP.
I was hoping it would feel like a 6d in the hand, so a bit smaller/lighter than the 5 series but not much. seems to be about right to me. hopefully I will get a chance to feel one in the hand at some point
Yes you can @RedRobin
Battery life is another area where I might be disappointed but I do already have five (now six) LP-E6N batteries. Mirrorless cameras seem to drink much more battery juice than D-SLR. The optional battery grip would help but it would add a lot of bulk and cancel out much of the size advantage.
The way they measure battery life doesn't make much sense for mirrorless systems, that's why they state an extremely low number of shots per battery.
Having not used the Canon I can't be certain but the normal rule is if you take lots of photos you'll get more out of one battery than on a DSLR but if you leave the camera on and do nothing with it the DSLR can last a lot longer.
With this in mind I have just been playing with my mirrorless Canon EOS R ON-OFF switch and it's perfectly positioned for your lefthand thumb and its knurled dial offers excellent grip on the switch dial. So this means that when out in the field the time switching on the camera when spotting a target is absolutely minimal and can even be done while lifting the camera to the eye. Perhaps the ON-OFF switch on the 1DX-2 which I have been so critical of is actually designed to be awkward and left ON while shooting. I have often been out from dawn til dusk with 1DX-2 left ON and only switching it OFF while mounting/unmounting extenders - I only shoot RAW and can easily record 1,500 images before changing battery, but look at that huge battery size (and forget the cost of the spare!) < Having such battery longevity is a nice feeling though and they recharge extremely quickly in easily less than half the time of a LP-E6N.
You can see the size comparison between the EOS R and the 7DII here.
And a size comparison between the EOS r and 6DII here.
The 7DII is slightly larger than the 6DII.
Obviously compared to the other two cameras the 7DII does have the benefit 10 fps continuous shooting with autofocus. Swings and roundabouts eh!
I prefer to turn the camera on with my right hand thumb as I raise it to my eye. My left hand automatically goes to the lens.
On my OMDmkII the camera goes to sleep after 1 minute but I can press ANY button and its back to life in a second ready to shoot -doesn't the R work the same Robin.
Rob.
.... That's an extremely useful website for size comparisons - Cheers!
.... And also the sometimes useful extra 'reach' of a crop-sensor. But, keeping the subject to Canon cameras and not Sony etc, the 7D-2 is totally trumped by the 14 fps continuous shooting with autofocus of the 1DX-2 Horses for courses eh!
As I have said in my previous posts, IF I decide to keep the EOS R [Mesdames et Messieurs, place your bets!] my 7D-2 will be for sale and also my mirrorless EOS M5 with EF adapter.
Never any doubt about that Rob, but it's been an interesting lesson in the psychology of GAS listening to your struggles
Never any doubt about that Rob, but it's been an interesting lesson in the psychology of GAS listening to your struggles
What! You have had a camera for longer than it takes to charge a battery and you haven't turned it on! You can only press buttons and flick switches and rotate dials for so long without seeing what they do in the camera. The mind boggles.As I physically familiarise myself by playing with just the EOS R body and I still haven't loaded a battery and fired it up, it has become very obvious to me that the Canon R's team of body designers are seriously good at their job.
After reading your initial impressions after it arrived, and the pretty much lack of negativity, I have little doubt that you will be keeping it.As I have said in my previous posts, IF I decide to keep the EOS R [Mesdames et Messieurs, place your bets!] my 7D-2 will be for sale and also my mirrorless EOS M5 with EF adapter.
What! You have had a camera for longer than it takes to charge a battery and you haven't turned it on! You can only press buttons and flick switches and rotate dials for so long without seeing what they do in the camera. The mind boggles.
Maybe not wrongly reported, but just didn't work for them.An inability to comfortably reach and use the AF-ON button or to crash fingers onto the Multi Function Bar, as wrongly reported by some online, would have been a deal breaker causing me to wait to see what the next R mirrorless body has to offer.
Besides, there are gale force winds and horizontal rain outside so far today!
It's right down in the 'sunny south East' Beautiful county is Kilkenny.
I'm actually from Carlow, the tiny county shaped like a little Africa beside it And atm, living 3 counties above it
Maybe not wrongly reported, but just didn't work for them.
Yes Mirrorless Robin I bought it while waiting for Canon to come up with something but the R is not for me I don't mind running 2 systems side by side just cost more, but like you I can't take it with me
Im sure the R will give great results and lets face it Most cameras will these days it's just that BIF need or should I say give a better chance if using high speed gear and the OMD is almost on par with my 1DX mk !! for speed but ISO is behind by quite a bit .
Hopefully Canon will bring the R range more in line for birding then I may well spend a bit more lol
Rob.
Had a chance to have a play with a few new bits of kit at the WEX Open day today - Canon R, Nikon Z7 and the new Fuji 50R.
Actually thought the Canon felt quite good to hold - nice in the hand with the 24-105 attached - never had a Canon and not sure I ever will but their new system seems well thought out.
Nikon Z7 seems very similar, I even remarked to the rep that they feel like they could have come from the same factory!!
I go to that branch a great deal; they are really good there. Very helpful indeed.I just traded in all my m4/3 gear in against one and a 24-70 L today at LCE in Newcastle. Got the last of their initial stock. My lens won’t arrive until Tuesday, so I have a very expensive paperweight until then LOL.
Simon.
I go to that branch a great deal; they are really good there. Very helpful indeed.
Not sure if it's been posted but new Adobe DNG converter (3 days ago) supports .Cr3 files LINK
.... I don't have Lightroom, I use CaptureOne (by PhaseOne) and until they release a CR3 RAW converter I'll upload to Canon DPP and export as TIFF into my usual workflow.
That's fine but the post wasn't particularly aimed at you, there are other EOS R (and M50) owners that maybe do use Adobe products
I just traded in all my m4/3 gear in against one and a 24-70 L today at LCE in Newcastle. Got the last of their initial stock. My lens won’t arrive until Tuesday, so I have a very expensive paperweight until then LOL.
Simon.
Golly, that's a shock Simon. You've been with MFT a long time.
I have the Sony A7 now but I still have and use my MFT gear when I want smaller, faster and quieter or indeed silent kit as my A7 is a bit sluggish compared to the blisteringly quick MFT kit and it doesn't have an electronic shutter.
I will be very interested in your opinion of the r when you've had a chance to play. I feel the same about the Sonys, but also loved my oly m4/3 kit. I just wanted full frame for my travels.Nine years with MFT Alan, but truth be told I’ve been looking at other options for 12 or 15 months now. At the risk of getting flamed, Sony was never a realistic option for me. Brilliant cameras with top notch IQ and features, but after trying the latest bodies, I just can’t gel with them. No point have an amazing bit of kit if you really don’t like using it. The R feels just like the G9 in the hand, which is a very good thing, and much the same weight (body only).
Simon.