You need to speak to these people..
Nowt is cheap in LF but I'd try to find a Fujinon lens from Japan.
Your standards are 135mm, 150 and 210. I'm not a big fan of 150 its bit nowhere for me. 210 is usually cheaper but I think its at the end of this cameras reach so close focus would be difficult/impossible, @stevelmx5 can correct me.
Personally, having tried a few different lenses out, I'd say a 135/150 is a good standard lens to use on the Chroma. I've got a 90mm/6.8 Schneider Angulon which will give me a great wide angle but will also mean a reduction in movements due to the front standard being closer to the rear. I've seen those Tominon lens/shutters before and have read mixed feelings (some suggesting they're from copy stands so only offer macro). The options from Ffordes are usually a good place to start;
Before I add the image to the campaign, here's the design for the metal pin badges. I've only just got it off my friend who designed it, hence there being no image of it on the campaign yet!
You'll have tax and fees but something like this would be a fantastic lens https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Excellen...533936?hash=item4d6c5d4630:g:PfcAAOSwRE5aaByD
Now, what kind of a seamstress would I be if I just went ahead and bought one?
Remember - black on the inside to suppress the light, and white on the outside to reflect the heat...
My Paramo one is red and black. but I have a proper black and white one as well
I looked and felt tempted; but I don't need it, any more than I need a Chroma...
Need...need...this is the Film & Conventional section where we pride ourselves on buying things we don’t need!
Thanks Steve. Just thinking about this possible 6*17 back, if it's 70mm back from the normal film plane, given a minimum bellows extension of (say) 80mm, does that mean that the shortest usable focal length would be 150mm?
Would that 6*12 back be adjustable to do 6*9 as well? Might make the wind-on too complicated, I guess...
You've hit the nail on the head Chris and it's one of reasons I haven't spent a lot of time on the design yet. The 612 back however...
The 612 back will use a traditional red window for winding on so I could have a couple of windows to allow for different winding (and include guides in the face to reduce the opening to 6x9).
I've got a couple of Fujinon lenses they are very nice.
They have a good reputation, and if in a focal length that I either felt I'd like to use or had found useful and probably would buy. What's holding me back is that I favour longer rather than shorter focal lengths, as I prefer to selectively record details rather than "get it all in". I do use wide lenses on 35mm, and my favourite pair for out and about is a 90mm macro and a 21mm. On 5x4, my normal lens is now 210mm and I've used longer than that more than shorter than 150mm. For some reason (I think I could explain it) I use longer than normal lenses on the larger than 35mm film sizes.
Well, all I can say is I only wish I had not given away 3 4x5 film holders that were in with a pile of cameras I'd bought last year thinking I would never use them!.
Now I am going to have to buy one or two, oh and a lens, and maybe a dark cloth and maybe just maybe I will join the large format-ers
If you'd like some 5x4 film holders, I think I have a few that I don't use any more (I had a mixed set of different makes and standardised on the modern Fidelity type). If I took a look in my box, I might be able to loan a lens as well - and I suppose I could wrap them up in my spare focusing cloth for protection in the post...
there are a load of 5x4 film holder just turned up here-no idea if there the correct one mind
Stephen that's very very kind of you... I will accept your offer
I think it would be handy to borrow a lens just to give me an idea of what focal length would suit me. But am happy if you would rather not send one out.
I have a spare 8x10 back if that's any use to you
A bigger film holder could be useful - I'll sort out the bits and let you know what and when I'm sending. I should have an appropriate box somewhere.
This really is the best section on TP! That’s some very kind community up there ^^
And in other news....if Batman bought a Chroma I reckon it would be in matt black;
(That’s a standard Linhof/Wista lens board in place)
That would be a very flexible approach; 6*9 is a useful size, same aspect ratio as 135, but umpteen times the size. I'm guessing it would be unwise to change in the middle of a roll. Or at least, care winding on the previous frame would be needed.
I did wonder about red window winding when I started thinking about what a 6*12 back would look like. Trouble is, I really hate red window winding (i's why my late Dad's Ikonta doesn't get the use it deserves), and it would be quite hard to use in blue hour situations... although Andy's little red torch might work, I suppose!
I know what you mean about red windows but they’re the least complex (and therefore lightest) option that offer a lot of flexibility. I wouldn’t want to try to build in a ratchet/gear system when I’m trying to keep the back as thin and light as possible. Attaching a cumbersome back to the light camera is a bad combination!
I’ll be cutting one this week hopefully so will see how I get along with it. Of course, I’ll keep you all updated.
I’m up to 58 cameras now
Only concern I'd have with 6x9 is focus, it's hard enough to nail focus when You're not enlarging that much getting a good enough focus from a relatively small bit and film gets increasingly difficult. At some point you're better with a fixed body camera.
Just noticed that this popped up in my feed from JCH;
You’re right but with a 4x5 sized focusing screen and guide lines it’s a little easier to focus as you can see the surrounding frame. I’m not planning on adding a dedicated 6x12 glass so will use removable frame lines instead that can be overlaid when shooting 612.
Why should 6*9 (cm) be harder to focus than 4*5 (inches)?
EDIT: Steve has the answer...
Cheers. Bellamy’s a top guy and has been involved in the crowd-sourced development of Chroma for a while. I’m really lucky to have so much support from all over the place at the moment, especially F&C ;0)
So if it was 6*9 you'd be able to see outside the frame left and right, ergo a perfect LF/MF street camera! Apart from the inconspicuous bit, of course!
Yeah, it’s light for LF but not really a street shooter in the most common way! Maybe the Chroma Snapshot would be better for that
It's the enlargements for normal use 4x5 doesn't n much at all so you can get away with a bit more than with mf.
Dad used to use a Chinagraph (?) pencil to draw lines on the screen of his Rolleiflex when he was using the 35mm converter.
Thanks. A pencil is good for making lines on ground glass but you know I never go the easy route
Chinagraph pencils write on polished surfaces so were easy to wipe off. I suppose a whiteboard marker would do the same job (or just stick some insulating tape on the GG.)
The easy route is rarely as much fun as "the pretty way"!
I’m thinking more of printing up ohp sheets with the relevant guidelines and then dropping one in place over the glass. E.g. Have one for 4x5 with rule of thirds, one with grids, 6x2, Instax wide etc
Just in case anybody is looking for a little red torch, I’ve just picked some up from a well known auction site https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/NSA-Red-LE...145372&hash=item3f690ee04f:g:VRoAAOSw-itXtZ1t
Thanks Nick. One ordered that can hang on the side of my Ikonta, I hope!
Just thinking of this, my Ikonta focusing is an uncoupled rangefinder, or estimate the distance by eye, set it on the lens! Chances of accurate focus: low...
For a non-pano roll film back, would it be an option to build an adapter for an existing back (or more than one, eg different sizes), to take advantage of cranked winders? (You can perhaps tell I really don't like the knob/red window approach!) No idea how that would work with the focus screen...