F1 2017 season

Dave1 said:
If you watch the video at http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...-for-alleged-valtteri-bottas-qualifying-block

He definitely impeded Bottas and pushed him wide, I think he’s guilty but maybe the stewards will cut him some slack after last week.
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He slowed, definitely but bottas went around him and just braked late. He was in a straight line and had plenty of time to brake early but was pushing it. Max being there didn't help but wasn't to blame for the locked brake. The swerve around him was close though.

So max/vettel fight and collision at the start letting Hamilton through?
 
It's a long run to the first corner. I can see all sorts going on down the field. Alonso put a marker down in Qualifying, the engine power isn't so important here, so I expect him to make a rapid start from the back
 
I think Vettel will be very wary of taking Max on in a 50/50 situation. What slim hopes he has rests on him finishing the race first, then finishing as high up as possible.
 
Nope Vettel is an out and out racer, proven many times he won't yield. He sees he does nothing wrong, it's everyone elses fault. He wants the wins with the hope hamilton breaks down
 
I reckon Lewis is in a good position on the grid out and out racers upfront and Bottas behind
Is Alonso's career change's working for him again in the future, Honda is getting quicker and the reno's of Torro are going out in a puff of smoke
 
fuzzyedges said:
I reckon Lewis is in a good position on the grid out and out racers upfront and Bottas behind
Is Alonso's career change's working for him again in the future, Honda is getting quicker and the reno's of Torro are going out in a puff of smoke
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Though the Silver Arrows are said to not be that great in dirty air Lewis can (possibly against his first instincts?) take a waiting game with Seb and Max sorting themselves out.............but taking whatever opportunities present themselves.
 
I think vettels tried to tuck in behind Hamilton and misjudged it. That cost them both, but ultimately vettel more.
 
In other news, kyvat has been given a seat next week, only to be dropped the week after
 
Not a bad race on a pretty meh track, well done to Lewis, Vettel gifted that by being so clumsy at turn 3.
 
Congrats to Lewis, nice to see Seb applaud him on the cool down lap, better than his interaction with Lance a few races back :)
 
He's done it, maybe not what he intended from the weekend but 'they all count' as they say.

So...He's not signed a contract extension beyond 2018 yet although it's believed he is to extend at Mercedes.
Is this a wise move, to extend with Mercedes?

I guess that all depends on what Lewis wants from the rest of his career.
If he wants to chase Schumacher's championship record then I suggest a long extension with Mercedes is NOT the way to go. Team fortunes can change dramatically, you only need to look at McLaran. It's some risk to sign for another 2 or 3 years if Mercedes can't supply him with the car, the last thing he needs is to be stuck in an uncompetitive car for 2 or 3 years.
I guess he is in a strong position to dictate the terms (and clauses) of his contract though.

Personally I'd love to see him chase down more world championships. Regardless of what you think of Lewis, at the end of the day he is just a normal lad from Hertfordshire who has done well for himself. Fair play to him and lets hope he keeps us entertained for a few more years yet.

Having said that, watch out for Max! if Red Bull can provide him with a better car then he could really give Lewis a run for his money.
Esteban Ocon and Carlos Sainz too!
 
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But they can rev higher by 3k
 
Ferrari always claim to have been in F1 from its inception - but missed the first F1 GP due to wanting more money than the others to show up. Plus ca change!!!
 
It won't happen, it's just Ferraris way of making their point about the proposed 2021 engine regs. Mercedes and renault say they are too expensive as well.

I think we need to have press to pass again, with drivers able to choose where to deploy the energy
 
Byker28i said:
I think we need to have press to pass again, with drivers able to choose where to deploy the energy
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Manual deployment (or part of ) is in the proposals
Wehrlein is my bet for Williams along with a good deal on engine tech or technicians from Merc
 
fuzzyedges said:
Manual deployment (or part of ) is in the proposals
Wehrlein is my bet for Williams along with a good deal on engine tech or technicians from Merc
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Is he old enough for the martini sponsors to agree though? He will be ousted from Sauber soon, two young Ferrari drivers will be in those seats
 
jonoooo125 said:
Is he old enough for the martini sponsors to agree though? He will be ousted from Sauber soon, two young Ferrari drivers will be in those seats
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Hes 23 how old do you have to be ?
 
2017 FORMULA 1 GRANDE PRÊMIO HEINEKEN DO BRASIL


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Autódromo José Carlos Pace
Lap data
Lap length 4.309km (2.677 miles)
Race laps 71
Race distance 305.909km (190.083 miles)
Pole position Right-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’11.473 (Juan Pablo Montoya, 2004)
Fastest lap 1’09.822 (Rubens Barrichello, 2004, qualifying one)
Maximum speed 310kph (192.625 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Pit straight and Reta Oposta straight
Distance from grid to turn one 334m
Full throttle 50%
Longest flat-out section 1394m
Downforce level High
Gear changes per lap 42
Fuel use per lap 1.35kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.042s

UK Times
Friday 10th November 2017
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 10:00-11:30 (UK time: 12:00-13:30)
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 14:00-15:30 (UK time: 16:00-17:30)
Saturday 11th November 2017
Brazilian Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 11:00-12:00 (UK time: 13:00-14:00)
Brazilian Grand Prix Qualifying: 14:00 (UK time: 16:00)
Sunday 12th November 2017
Brazilian Grand Prix: 14:00 (UK time: 16:00)

Previous Winners
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2014 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2013 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2012 United Kingdom Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
2011 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
2010 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2009 Australia Mark Webber Red Bull-Renault
2008 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari
2007 Finland Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari
2006 Brazil Felipe Massa Ferrari
2005 Colombia Juan Pablo Montoya McLaren-Mercedes
2004 Colombia Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW
2003 Italy Giancarlo Fisichella Jordan-Ford
2002 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari
2001 United Kingdom David Coulthard McLaren-Mercedes
2000 Germany Michael Schumacher Ferrari

Videos

2016 Hamilton pole lap onboard
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYItlkzvgg4


Schumacher 2006 onboard opening laps
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rwtyl_ZhDU


Facts from the previous race

As title-deciders go, the Mexican Grand Prix was somewhat anti-climactic.

Not least because the newly-crowned champion was well out of the action. Ninth place for Lewis Hamilton’s is the lowest position a driver has ever finished in while clinching the championship: one below Michael Schumacher’s eighth in the 2003 Japanese Grand Prix in which he won his sixth world title.

Seven drivers posted no-scores in their championship-deciding rounds. Technical problems forced out Jack Brabham in the 1966 Italian Grand Prix and Jackie Stewart in the 1971 Austrian Grand Prix, but both won the title anyway. More controversially Alain Prost in 1989, Ayrton Senna in 1990 and Schumacher in 1994 all won the title after crashing into their championship rivals.

The other non-scorers were more unusual. Nelson Piquet won the championship 30 years ago when his team mate Nigel Mansell withdrew from the Japanese Grand Prix due to a practice crash. And poor Jochen Rindt died before clinching the 1970 title, which became his at the 1970 United States Grand Prix.

With 50 points left available, Hamilton’s 56-point lead over Vettel means he is un-catchable. That gap is equal to the number of points Vettel lost in those three disastrous races in Singapore, Malaysia and Japan. This year is also the first time Vettel has led the world championship but failed to win it.

However Vettel can still lay claim to being the youngest driver ever to win four world championships. He was 26 years and 116 days old when he won the 2013 title. At 32 years and 303 days, Hamilton is 11 weeks older than Michael Schumacher was when he won his fourth world championship in 2001. The sport’s only other four-times champions were several years older: Alain Prost was 38 (1993) and Juan Manuel Fangio 45 (1956).

Hamilton ended his former team mate Nico Rosberg’s reign as champion after 336 days. Only two drivers had shorter reigns: John Surtees (280 days) and Rindt (315).

Despite his low finishing position Hamilton sustained his 100% points-scoring record for this year and increased his total points-scoring streak to 23 races. This is the third-longest in F1 history, tied with Fernando Alonso’s best scoring streak, and four shy of Kimi Raikkonen’s all-time record.

Esteban Ocon extended his streak of finishes to 27 and his streak of points scores to 12. He also tied his career-best finish with fifth. That helped Force India equal their best-ever result in the world championship as they now cannot be caught for fourth place.

It was a relief for Ocon who had to sit out the first practice session while Alfonso Celis drove his car into a wall, as it turned out.

Ocon’s Formula Three rival Max Verstappen capitalised on the first-lap clash between Vettel and Hamilton to post his most dominant result to date. For the first time ever he led every lap of a race.

He has now won three races without ever starting from pole position. This is one less than the record jointly held by Eddie Irvine and Bruce McLaren.

His third win means Verstappen has now won as many races as Mike Hawthorn, Peter Collins, Phil Hill, Didier Pironi, Thierry Boutsen, Heinz-Harald Frentzen, Johnny Herbert and Giancarlo Fisichella. In a bizarre coincidence, all three of Verstappen’s wins have come in races immediately after Daniil Kvyat has been demoted.

In a reversal of fortune following his problems earlier this year, Verstappen was among just two of the six-Renault powered cars to reach the chequered flag. The other was Pierre Gasly, who’d had his fill of problems in practice and did only 12 laps of a track he’d never driven on before the race. Daniel Ricciardo dropped out early on meaning he and Verstappen have each had four retirements due to technical problems during the season.

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Drivers’ Chosen Tyres
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Should be a good race today, Lewis should have some fun from the pitlane.
 
Sainz saying Massas allegations make no sense, really? You could see he deliberately stayed in the middle of the circuit after complaining that Massa got in his way.
 
2017 FORMULA 1 ETIHAD AIRWAYS ABU DHABI GRAND PRIX


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Yas Marina Circuit
Lap data
Lap length 5.554km (3.451 miles)
Race laps 55
Race distance 305.355km (189.739 miles)
Pole position Right-hand side of the track
Lap record* 1’40.279 (Sebastian Vettel, 2009)
Fastest lap 1’38.434 (Lewis Hamilton, 2011, qualifying two)
Maximum speed 339kph (210.645 mph)
DRS zone/s (race) Two straights
Distance from grid to turn one 305m
Full throttle 59%
Longest flat-out section 1233m
Downforce level High
Gear changes per lap 56
Fuel use per lap 1.82kg
Time penalty per lap of fuel 0.04s

UK Times
Friday 24th November 2017
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Free Practice 1: 13:00-14:30 (UK time: 9:00-10:30)
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Free Practice 2: 17:00-18:30 (UK time: 13:00-14:30)
Saturday 25th November 2017
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Free Practice 3: 14:00-15:00 (UK time: 10:00-11:00)
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Qualifying: 17:00 (UK time: 13:00)
Sunday 26th November 2017
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix: 17:00 (UK time: 13:00)

Previous Winners
2016 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2015 Germany Nico Rosberg Mercedes
2014 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton Mercedes
2013 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2012 Finland Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault
2011 United Kingdom Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2010 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault
2009 Germany Sebastian Vettel Red Bull-Renault

Videos

Vettel 2009 on board
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGlflFNtrYQ


2016 onboard race edit
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=605E9OPE6yo


Facts from the previous race

Kimi Raikkonen notched up his seventh podium finish of the season in Brazil. But while team mate Sebastian Vettel won the race, his fifth victory this year, it’s been a win-less campaign so far for the 2007 world champion.

Raikkonen hasn’t stood on the top step of the podium since the opening race of 2013. Since then he’s made 21 visits to the podium, all in second or third position. This is a record, five more than any other driver in F1 history.

Raikkonen’s podium was the 91st of his career. Vettel scored his 98th, which moves him ahead of Fernando Alonso into fourth place on the all-time list.

It was Vettel’s 47th win and it means Ferrari now have 47 more wins than F1’s next most successful team, McLaren. It was their 11th Brazilian Grand Prix win, one less than the record which is held by McLaren.

This was the eighth race Mercedes failed to win this year. Though they’re still the team to beat it’s another sign that the fourth year of the V6 hybrid turbo regulations has been the toughest yet for them: They’ve lost as many races in 2017 as they did in 2014, 2015 and 2016 combined.

Vettel added to his collection of near-misses on Saturday when Valtteri Bottas beat him to pole position by 38 thousandths of a second. He also narrowly missed pole in Spain (by 0.051s to Lewis Hamilton), Monaco (by 0.043s to Raikkonen) and 0.042s in Austria (to Bottas).

Bottas therefore took the third pole position of his career, giving him as many as Jose Froilan Gonzalez, Tony Brooks, Dan Gurney, Jean-Pierre Jarier, Jody Scheckter, Elio de Angelis and Teo Fabi.

Max Verstappen took the fastest lap of the race, establishing a new lap record. It’s only the second fastest lap of his career, both of which have come in the Brazilian Grand Prix.

Hamilton’s qualifying crash meant he had to start from the pits. Having effectively lined up 20th, he emulated Vettel’s 16-place climb to fourth position which is the most places any driver has made in up a race all year long. He scored points for the 24th race in a row, tying the second-longest streak of all time with Michael Schumacher. He needs three more to reach the all-time record held by Kimi Raikkonen.

However Esteban Ocon’s record of most consecutive finishes from the start of an F1 career came to an end when he was taken out by Romain Grosjean on lap one. Incredibly, this was Ocon’s first retirement in any series since his race-stopping collision with Tom Blomqvist at the start of the 2014 Macau Grand Prix. Since then he had done 45 single-seater races without retiring: An entire 18-race season of GP3 plus his first 27 F1 races.

Renault’s power unit problems and their troubled relationship with Toro Rosso was a major talking point ahead of the race. No driver had been hit harder than Brendon Hartley, who in his three-race F1 career to date is yet to start a grand prix without having taken a power unit grid penalty.

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