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Nope, I don't love all animals and nature, just most....You love earthquakes & tidal waves?
Is that allowed?
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Nope, I don't love all animals and nature, just most....You love earthquakes & tidal waves?
I heard there was someone that said the same thing about people..........Hannibal Lecter I think was his name....I must be honest: I distrust people who claim to love all animals. Some really don't taste that good...
Nope, I don't love all animals and nature, just most....
Is that allowed?
Nope, I don't love all animals and nature, just most....
Is that allowed?
I think it very possible to love the natural world, without loving every part. But, I think it important to realise it is a whole, less appealing bits and all.
I think many people have gone to far and anthropomorphised many of the charismatic species now, which is very sad.
Curious as it may seem, we agree on something.
But its nature at workIt seems to me this thread isn’t really ‘Talk Nature’ .
You could argue that if the dog was on a lead, it wouldn't have happened.
Shows what a caring society we live in, 80yo living on her own and none of the neighbours seem to
know anything about her or if in fact who lived there, but all want to speak to the press !!!
In other words, an irresponsible dog owner.There's that element of it but also the fact the owner didn't forsee the danger his pets kept and could have done more to keep them confined to his property boundaries.
In other words, an irresponsible dog owner.
There is always the potential of danger from 'multiple' dogs and certain breeds are more prone to aggression but overwhelmingly it is a lack of training and care on behalf of the owner that is at the core of the problem. A while back I was walking through a local cemetary doing some photography when I was confronted by a growling dog that appeared to be an American Pit Bull and I immediately mentally prepared myself for defence, the owner appeared and said, "Just stand still and he won't hurt you" ... if the owner needed to say that he knew the potential of the dog and should not have had it off the lead!Yes- but also a nasty aggressive pair dogs - I've had next doors dog come through and not ended up mauled to death because of it. At least the dogs will be put down. That's something at least.
It's not always solely attributable to the owner - dogs are capable of independent thought and action so it's a case of nature and nurture. In this case keeping the dogs in would have helped, but probably off the leads these mutts would attack anything and everything. Not all dogs would.
There is always the potential of danger from 'multiple' dogs and certain breeds are more prone to aggression but overwhelmingly it is a lack of training and care on behalf of the owner that is at the core of the problem. A while back I was walking through a local cemetary doing some photography when I was confronted by a growling dog that appeared to be an American Pit Bull and I immediately mentally prepared myself for defence, the owner appeared and said, "Just stand still and he won't hurt you" ... if the owner needed to say that he knew the potential of the dog and should not have had it off the lead!
Yes- but also a nasty aggressive pair dogs - I've had next doors dog come through and not ended up mauled to death because of it. At least the dogs will be put down. That's something at least.
It's not always solely attributable to the owner - dogs are capable of independent thought and action so it's a case of nature and nurture. In this case keeping the dogs in would have helped, but probably off the leads these mutts would attack anything and everything. Not all dogs would.
Everybody seems to think they know the whole story which likely they don’t and never will. The dogs may have broken through the fence themselves, the lady may have been responsible for the fence, she may attempted to return the dogs rather than retreat or stay indoors and so on. And I’m not saying it was all her fault.we don’t even know what sort of dogs they are — there was a woman killed by her own toy breed dogs in California a few years back, I think there were about 5 of them and not aggressive and it’s not known what caused it but I seem to remember it was thought she fell down and the dogs became excited for some reason.
True but if the are 'being tested for breed', what sort do you think they are?we don’t even know what sort of dogs they are
True but if the are 'being tested for breed', what sort do you think they are?
True but if the are 'being tested for breed', what sort do you think they are?
Well....I doubt it's a pair of cocker spaniels, poodles, or golden retrievers but you never know...
Sorry but that’s just the standard police statement. And there aren’t any real tests for breed in most cases as they are of unknown ancestry almost by definition. What they mean is they are going to give them certain ‘behavioural’ tests which probably most dogs (and humans ) would fail in police custody .
Not quite the same thing but see how President Biden’s dogs are having difficulty adjusting to ‘strange’ bodyguards round POTUS .
When the police were originally testing dogs to settle on a breed to use it was a toss-up between Labradors & ‘Alsatians’ (as they then were) for the necessary aggressive qualities. They rejected the Labs because people were less fearful of them .
I'm pretty sure it was to determine if it they were Pit bulls or Part pit bull after all the attacks a few years back.When the police were originally testing dogs to settle on a breed to use it was a toss-up between Labradors & ‘Alsatians’ (as they then were) for the necessary aggressive qualities. They rejected the Labs because people were less fearful of them .
Shows what a caring society we live in, 80yo living on her own and none of the neighbours seem to
know anything about her or if in fact who lived there, but all want to speak to the press !!!
Not like you and I to be on the same page...but...Says lots about our society that people seem more concerned about a seal then an old lady
I'm pretty sure it was to determine if it they were Pit bulls or Part pit bull after all the attacks a few years back.
Pit Bull ownership is banned in the UK.
In 1991, the UK government decided to ban pit bulls in response to a slew of incidents involving vicious, often unprovoked attacks, by this particular breed of dog, on humans. ... Three other dog breeds that were outlawed in this Act: the Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino, and Fila Brasileiro
The breeds of dog currently illegal in the UK are the Pit Bull Terrier, Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino and the Fila Brasileiro. But crossbreeds including any of those types of dog may also be subject to the law, depending on their size and characteristics.
Appearance and jaw structure...I imagine it'll be determined either a pitt pull type dog, or staffie...
Indeed but I doubt an old biddy has being poking them through the fence with sticks...Have met dogs of both breeds I have to say that although not my choice to own both have been friendly,
as they say blame the deed not the breed and in most cases blame the owner
I used to live next door to the most obnoxious family who's kid used to tease the dogs though a 8ft hedged fence
poking them with long sticks etc. one of my dogs hated them and I have no doubt that if that kid had succeeded in getting the garden it would have ended badly, gate was kept locked at all times, yet other children came in to paly with no problems
As has been said, we don't the full story and probably never will, yes the dogs will lose their lives but it may not be their fault
Indeed but I doubt an old biddy has being poking them through the fence with sticks...
Well....I doubt it's a pair of cocker spaniels, poodles, or golden retrievers but you never know...
In 1991, the UK government decided to ban pit bulls in response to a slew of incidents involving vicious, often unprovoked attacks, by this particular breed of dog, on humans.
I wonder if Pit Bulls in this country are different from Pit Bulls in America.
The American ones you see on TV and social media are placid, family pets.
I've had Spaniels all of my dog owning days.
Golden Cockers have Rage Syndrome and I always advise potential owners to steer clear of them but nobody believes me - until its too late.
My Dad and Grandad bred Alsatians for show and agility/obedience.
I'd rather trust them than a Golden Cocker.
These days the Rage Syndrome still exists but responsible breeders have went to great lengths to erradicate the fault.
I once read an American book on dog breeds and Golden Retrievers faired worse than Rottweilers!!
I've only been bitten once and that was by a Poodle
Here's the thing, a poodle, or cocker is a small sized dog. It doesn't have the strength to take someone to the ground. If one bites you, you'll have the ability still to kick it so hard that it'll need more medical attention than you. Or better still get the boot in before it gets its teeth in.I've had Spaniels all of my dog owning days.
Golden Cockers have Rage Syndrome and I always advise potential owners to steer clear of them but nobody believes me - until its too late.
My Dad and Grandad bred Alsatians for show and agility/obedience.
I'd rather trust them than a Golden Cocker.
These days the Rage Syndrome still exists but responsible breeders have went to great lengths to erradicate the fault.
I once read an American book on dog breeds and Golden Retrievers faired worse than Rottweilers!!
I've only been bitten once and that was by a Poodle
They mellow and grow up...mostly.Funny that my what do yousuppose happens to, for instance, nasty badly behaved people when they get old? In my experience some of them remain nasty, just older .
Here's the thing, a poodle, or cocker is a small sized dog. It doesn't have the strength to take someone to the ground. If one bites you, you'll have the ability still to kick it so hard that it'll need more medical attention than you.
Doesn't go that way with a Rottie...
I know you like dog's and want to rationalise this...