Mamiya Medium Format owners group

Received a beat to s*** C220 yesterday (knew it was in terrible nick when buying, but it was cheap) - there are no light seals on the door, how big of a problem is this?

My intention with this particular camera was to try 6x6 format on a few rolls and, if I like it, upgrade to something a bit more suited to my need (or just a not-beat-to-hell version), so a little light leak isn't really a problem.
 
LonerMatt said:
Received a beat to s*** C220 yesterday (knew it was in terrible nick when buying, but it was cheap) - there are no light seals on the door, how big of a problem is this?

My intention with this particular camera was to try 6x6 format on a few rolls and, if I like it, upgrade to something a bit more suited to my need (or just a not-beat-to-hell version), so a little light leak isn't really a problem.
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Light seals on a C220 is a simple job. Email Jon Goodman JGood21967@aol.com and he'll sort you out.
 
Hello
Are there any RB67 user members based in Cornwall. ?
 
I replaced the light seals on my C220 myself with some sheet foam costing 89 pence frmo Hobby Crafts, Romford, Essex -- I c an show you pics of my 'Light Seal kit' and the C220 back here :

Seal Kit by Peter Elgar, on Flickr

Mamiya C220 seals by Peter Elgar, on Flickr
 
Albi said:
Hello
Are there any RB67 user members based in Cornwall. ?
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Hi Allan, if you listen closely you will hear the shutter going and can track them from there. :D
 
As this is a Mamiya forum, just a note that I have listed a large 1507 tripod on miscelanious sales if anyone is interested in a much larger tripod than normal.

Malcolm
 
Thanks for reply Carl was looking for like minded local based RB67 owner member to meet up now and again. :ty:
 
Can I join?

Currently own and shoot with:

M645 1000S (+ AE Prism, PD Prism + WLF)
M645J
645 AFD
35mm f3.5 C
55mm f2.8 AF
80mm f2.8 C
80mm f1.9 N
120mm f4 Macro
150mm f2.8 A
210mm f4 C
210mm f4 ULD AF

RZ67 Pro II (WLF only)
65mm f4 L-A (RZ lens)
127mm f3.5 K/L (RB lens)
 
Kei said:
Can I join?

Currently own and shoot with:

M645 1000S (+ AE Prism, PD Prism + WLF)
M645J
645 AFD
35mm f3.5 C
55mm f2.8 AF
80mm f2.8 C
80mm f1.9 N
120mm f4 Macro
150mm f2.8 A
210mm f4 C
210mm f4 ULD AF

RZ67 Pro II (WLF only)
65mm f4 L-A (RZ lens)
127mm f3.5 K/L (RB lens)
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That's a nice set of kit you've got there, I'd like a 35mm for mine some day.
 
Hi. I'm posting here in the hope that somebody can help me. My brother In Law recently passed away and my sister has asked me to help dispose of his quite extensive camera collection. Part of the collection is a Mamiya RZ67 setup consisting of the following:

Mamiya RZ67
Mamiya 45MM No.1 Lens
Mamiya 82MM No.2 Lens
Mamiya-Sekor f=250mm 1:4.5 Lens
Mamiya-Sekor f=180mm 1:4.5 W-N Lens
Mamiya-Sekor f=110mm 1:2.8 Lens
Mamiya-Sekor f=90mm 1:3.8 Lens
Mamiya RZ AE Prism Finder
Mamiya MZ 18R Flash
Mamiya Receiver MZ
Mamiya RZ67 Winder II
Mamiya RB67 Cable Release
Mamiya RZ Focusing Screen R7 Type A4

All items show signs of use, but seem to be in generally good working condition. I'm hoping that somebody can give me a realistic idea of value and the best route to advertise these items for sale and if there is much of a market for this kit. Many Thanks. Rob
 
The easiest way of getting a ballpark figure of value is checking eBay listings that have actually sold, as here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_o...A0.H0.Xmamiya+z.TRS0&_nkw=mamiya+z&_sacat=625

There is a market for that kit, but I don't fancy your chances of selling it as one lot, unless you find a dealer who is interested. Ffordes ( http://www.ffordes.co.uk/ ) sell RB67 kit, so it might be worth asking them, for example. Otherwise, eBay, but selling each lens separately, might be your best (if time-consuming) bet.
 
There's a lot to be said for selling via a Ffordes commission sale. I recently did this with a higher value camera and lens and it was very simple. I'd previously struggled to get a decent price vie eBay. Ffordes gave me an interim valuation via email and confirmed it once the camera arrived with them. It sold within a month or so; they keep 20% and I got a cheque for the balance shortly afterwards (their web site says up to 6 weeks, but it was much less). I thought the 20% was well worth it; eBay/Paypal commission would [EDIT] NOT have been much less, but by the time you have factored in time wasters buying kit on eBay, and then complaining about some invisible speck on a lens, so you have to take it back and pay their postage both ways, I was very happy. Wish I'd gone that way first. You can trust them to give a decent valuation; they know their market and can get a good price.
 
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Ok, thanks for that pointer. Medium format and particularly Mamiya kit is not something I've ever had any involvement with before, so any advice is useful.
 
ChrisR said:
There's a lot to be said for selling via a Ffordes commission sale. I recently did this with a higher value camera and lens and it was very simple. I'd previously struggled to get a decent price vie eBay. Ffordes gave me an interim valuation via email and confirmed it once the camera arrived with them. It sold within a month or so; they keep 20% and I got a cheque for the balance shortly afterwards (their web site says up to 6 weeks, but it was much less). I thought the 20% was well worth it; eBay/Paypal commission would have been much less, but by the time you have factored in time wasters buying kit on eBay, and then complaining about some invisible speck on a lens, so you have to take it back and pay their postage both ways, I was very happy. Wish I'd gone that way first. You can trust them to give a decent valuation; they know their market and can get a good price.
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Thanks Chris. A really useful suggestion. I'll follow that up.
 
ChrisR said:
I thought the 20% was well worth it; eBay/Paypal commission would [EDIT] NOT have been much less, but by the time you have factored in time wasters....
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robmank said:
Thanks Chris. A really useful suggestion. I'll follow that up.
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Seems I left out a crucial word! I think fleabay and paypal commissions add up to around 13%...
 
Has anyone got any experience with the 50mm and 65mm lenses for the RB67? I'm thinking of getting one to compliment the 127mm 3.8 C lens that I have now, as I really love the RB for landscape work (many reasons, mainly the WLF, rotating backs and changeable backs) and I think I would use a WA a lot. Is there really much difference in FOV between the 50 and 65? I can't really find any for sale at the moment so I'm going to have to wait a while anyway (well, Ffordes have a 65 non-C lens for sale, but it's £130 and I'd rather get a C or better).

So, is 50 really that much wider than 65 on 6x7? I'm thinking that it's "only 15mm", but the equivalent for 35mm would be around 28 and 36mm (assuming 90 is equal to 50), and they're very different!
 
I found a couple of my 1968 Mamiya Press Super 23 Prints in my files taken in the 1970's here in Brentwood Essex so thought I might show them . 10x8" darkroom prints scanned with HP Scanjet 4570c
King George's Fields : the PUB across the road was knocked down and houses built.
Old Brentwood 03 by Peter Elgar, on Flickr
The Hotel/ Restaurant ' Brentwood Moat house' as it was -- now it is 'Marygreen Manor' and prices have been put up !

Old Brentwood 04 by Peter Elgar, on Flickr
 
Carl Hall said:
Has anyone got any experience with the 50mm and 65mm lenses for the RB67? I'm thinking of getting one to compliment the 127mm 3.8 C lens that I have now, as I really love the RB for landscape work (many reasons, mainly the WLF, rotating backs and changeable backs) and I think I would use a WA a lot. Is there really much difference in FOV between the 50 and 65? I can't really find any for sale at the moment so I'm going to have to wait a while anyway (well, Ffordes have a 65 non-C lens for sale, but it's £130 and I'd rather get a C or better).

So, is 50 really that much wider than 65 on 6x7? I'm thinking that it's "only 15mm", but the equivalent for 35mm would be around 28 and 36mm (assuming 90 is equal to 50), and they're very different!
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I've only ever had the 50mm so can't compare to the 65mm, @Woodsy has had both though so may be able to offer an opinion.

Personally, I love the 50mm, tastefully wide but incredibly sharp!
 
I have the 50mm for my RZ67, but use the 110mm as my standard. I don't know how well you can image in extra cm on the sides, but if you can the manual for the C330 gives sample photos from the different lenses. There's a 50mm and a 65mm, but for 127mm you'll have to accept the 135mm as the nearest.
 
Carl Hall said:
Has anyone got any experience with the 50mm and 65mm lenses for the RB67? I'm thinking of getting one to compliment the 127mm 3.8 C lens that I have now, as I really love the RB for landscape work (many reasons, mainly the WLF, rotating backs and changeable backs) and I think I would use a WA a lot. Is there really much difference in FOV between the 50 and 65? I can't really find any for sale at the moment so I'm going to have to wait a while anyway (well, Ffordes have a 65 non-C lens for sale, but it's £130 and I'd rather get a C or better).

So, is 50 really that much wider than 65 on 6x7? I'm thinking that it's "only 15mm", but the equivalent for 35mm would be around 28 and 36mm (assuming 90 is equal to 50), and they're very different!
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I have 50mm and 65mm lenses for the RZ (plus 110mm and 180mm), and of course the field of view is the same for both systems. 50mm is approx equivalent to 26mm in 35mm terms and 65mm is equivalent to 32mm. I'm not sure if the following page from On Landscape is subscription-only, but this allows you to work out the equivalence for any focal length:

https://www.onlandscape.co.uk/sensor-size-calculator/?referencesensor=70:56&targetsensor=36:24&aspectratio=3:2&focallengths=50,65,110,180&apertures=2.8,4,5.6,8,11,16,22,32,45

If I am taking two lenses out with the RZ I will choose the 50mm and 110mm,
But if I want to take only ONE lens it would be the 65mm as it's wide enough to squeeze in a bit more landscape but not so wide as to be a specialist lens.
 
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robhooley167 said:
I've only ever had the 50mm so can't compare to the 65mm, @Woodsy has had both though so may be able to offer an opinion.

Personally, I love the 50mm, tastefully wide but incredibly sharp!
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Great, thanks :D Wide and sharp are the two words I'm looking for :D

StephenM said:
I have the 50mm for my RZ67, but use the 110mm as my standard. I don't know how well you can image in extra cm on the sides, but if you can the manual for the C330 gives sample photos from the different lenses. There's a 50mm and a 65mm, but for 127mm you'll have to accept the 135mm as the nearest.
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Thanks Steve, I'd not seen that comparison before and it's very helpful :)

Kevin Allan said:
I have 50mm and 65mm lenses for the RZ (plus 110mm and 180mm), and of course the field of view is the same for both systems. 50mm is approx equivalent to 26mm in 35mm terms and 65mm is equivalent to 32mm. I'm not sure if the following page from On Landscape is subscription-only, but this allows you to work out the equivalence for any focal length:

https://www.onlandscape.co.uk/sensor-size-calculator/?referencesensor=70:56&targetsensor=36:24&aspectratio=3:2&focallengths=50,65,110,180&apertures=2.8,4,5.6,8,11,16,22,32,45

If I am taking two lenses out with the RZ I will choose the 50mm and 110mm,
But if I want to take only ONE lens it would be the 65mm as it's wide enough to squeeze in a bit more landscape but not so wide as to be a specialist lens.
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Thanks Kevin. I think I'll likely go for the 50 if I can find one, but if a 65 comes up at a good price I will probably bite. I can always get the 75 or 90 later on to fit nicely in between the 50 and 127.
 
I've got the KL version of the 65mm in RZ guise and from my experience, it is incredibly sharp which marries up with everything I read about it before buying it. The non floating system versions are supposed to be far worse in the corners. If you use it stopped down significantly, I don't imagine the difference will be all that substantial.
 
The RB67 65mm is a good lens as in my home tests where I enlarged the image to about 5ft across my screen after scanning with a V750, thought the result was good where the lens is weaker at the edges., but just think how good the image would be, if scanned by a lab with pro scanner.

Home test with OOD film about 12 years




AAMOI same test but using a "Joe public" Epson 4180
 
Not that my name is Brian, but the V750 is somewhat overkill for MF frames imho. Something a lot cheaper like the V500 or V550 would do a perfectly good job I'd recon.
 
Yep. I've got the 4990. Perfectly good enough for Medium Format.
 
Tried to buy a 4480 at the bootie to add to my collection\experience, but the woman wouldn't drop from £5 to a £1 even though I said "it might not work and there are no neg holders (probably didn't know what i was saying) and no power supply". :rolleyes:
 
Looked at them with a view to shooting 35mm panoramic, a 6x7 back provides the width I was looking for with the 65mm lens available for press cameras.
In the end I decided they were it bit too mahoosive to shoot tidgy 35mm film....:D
 
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